KingoftheRiversandtheHills Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Is it possible? Is it even worth it? What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James West Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Spoiler Not without dragons. The land is too vast and the wildlings are crazy. A large occupying force will be required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingoftheRiversandtheHills Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 2 minutes ago, James West said: Reveal hidden contents Not without dragons. The land is too vast and the wildlings are crazy. A large occupying force will be required. Sorry! I didn't put much thought into the question. I didn't mean only as part of the seven kingdoms, they could have their own sovereignty. It doesn't even need to be a kingdom really, the "king beyond the wall" can be voted in by the various magnars. And not all tribes have to be part of it like the Thenns for example. James West 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James West Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 Mance had his own kingdom. Somebody like him could put tribes together and build himself a kingdom. He would have to find a way to protect from the Others. He can make a new religion where the people happily give up their children to the trees. It was good enough for Craster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 During long winters most people who live beyond the wall die. So any possible kingdoms in there would not survive very long either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 11 hours ago, KingoftheRiversandtheHills said: Is it possible? Is it even worth it? What do you guys think? No, at most you could have the parts up to say the Valley of Thenn as allys of the Watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
House Cambodia Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Southrons might have referred to "The King Beyond the Wall" but Mance himself did not make anything of such a title or ask wildlings to 'Bend the Knee'. There would be absolutely no stomach north of the Wall for a 'Kingdom' and trying to enforce one would simply cause massive conflict where none is necessary. So. 'Worth it?' - no. Possible - Given that lack of support, I'd say 'not worth it' and therefore, probably not possible. Besides, how does a monarchy enforce a tax policy? Seriously, the size and spread of the environment might draw some kind of parallel with the Dothraki Sea, but the flat steppes of the DS enable Dothraki to be fast and mobile enough to hunt down and punish renegades to khalasars. The environment of the Far North I'd say is vastly different. Edited April 2 by House Cambodia KingoftheRiversandtheHills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 What are you going to do, tax em? KingoftheRiversandtheHills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingoftheRiversandtheHills Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 10 hours ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said: What are you going to do, tax em? Not really, more interested in the unity aspect. Unity brings peace, peace brings more people, more people mean more jobs they are able to fulfill. Also, I would be really interested in how a society would play out especially with the spear wife aspect of it. Really just world building scenarios in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alden Rothack Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, KingoftheRiversandtheHills said: Not really, more interested in the unity aspect. Unity brings peace, peace brings more people, more people mean more jobs they are able to fulfill. Also, I would be really interested in how a society would play out especially with the spear wife aspect of it. Really just world building scenarios in my head. The land probably can't support a lot of people, comparable countries still have very few people for their size even with modern technology. in fact they are still lower than most countries were with medieval technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astarkchoice Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Not really Mance was able to just about forge them knto an allianfe with the threat if the walkers and even then hes had to charm, threaten and endlessly negotiate to bring a temporary peace ...shit he even had to duel a few times to make it happen. Like an old.school.empire youd need to break them.with an invasion force and build settlements, ease them into the fold and at huge cost and probably frequent rebellions...and for what exactlly? The far north is worse off than the north so unless theres a massive secret gold or silver seam found no king or emperor would try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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