Caligula_K Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 By playing sports. For the first time, Ja'La dh Jin, the game of life, is given center stage as Richard and his team work toward the ultimate goal of playing the emperor's undefeated squad. If victorious, any woman of each team member's choosing is granted to them as a reward. This is the plot of so many bad kid sports movies, from AirBud to MVP to Angels in the Outfield. At least he's stopped ripping off Jordan. Oh, and he added his own original twist! Communism! And boobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverlad Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hey guys. I'd been reading Tairy's books for a couple years, and I'm now a true masochist, having read every single damn one of them. Lots of things I'd read used to annoy and disgust me about his work, including all those idiotic interviews of his, but I really lost all respect after I finished Confessor, that last monster of a book. Moose did a great job of summing up Confessor, but I must admit, I was disappointed he left out something really big from the ending. Dick, being all super-powerful with the box of Orden power? Well, as he created a duplicate copy of the world (without magic) for all those rapists and commies, he decided that there would be no afterlife there. Yeah, he was so powerful and so just and right and reasonable that he took the underworld and everything else away from them, spouting on about "you have one life, someday maybe you'll learn to live it." Mind you, I'm probably an atheist as I have no beliefs regarding g*d or the afterlife, but Goodkind thought ultimate justice was literally playing god and having millions of his enemies souls die because he judged them? I was actually offended. Understand me, I CANNOT BE offended. Mock me, challenge me, show me something ridiculous? I'm not offended. One man believing he has the right to cut you off from heaven and hell? OMG. I couldn't find anything more ridiculous than a man fighting for his rights to live the life he chooses deciding who has a right to go to heaven or hell. Anyway, I've read approximately 300 pages of forum posts mocking the Yeard and I salute you all. This douche is really out of his gourd. Did you guys know he doesn't have the internet? I don't know why, but I guess it's part of the great shadow conspiracy he believes in, along with global warming and the Qwerty keyboard. (...no joke). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinDonner Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 That's quite a surprise. I mean, we've always known that Tairy was a bit conflicted regarding his whole underworld thing - everyone seems to go to the same place, regardless of whether they are good or bad, but the Keeper of the underworld is, like, totally evil. So why is it a punishment to remove this from the IO? OK, they all worship the Keeper so they might be a bit disappointed to find themselves in a world where he doesn't exist, but surely that is still damning all the life-choosers to an eternity of serving the Source of All Ev0l? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverlad Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 That's quite a surprise. I mean, we've always known that Tairy was a bit conflicted regarding his whole underworld thing - everyone seems to go to the same place, regardless of whether they are good or bad, but the Keeper of the underworld is, like, totally evil. So why is it a punishment to remove this from the IO? OK, they all worship the Keeper so they might be a bit disappointed to find themselves in a world where he doesn't exist, but surely that is still damning all the life-choosers to an eternity of serving the Source of All Ev0l? Actually Min, based on my understanding, having read all the books at least once, the underworld and the other place (Can't remember the name of 'heaven') things are treated much the same as they are here on earth. You have the sisters of the light all-loving in the creator's light and then you have the sisters of the dark out to destroy the world for the keeper. Most of the IO have been indoctrinated to believe life is torture and you suffer in life to thrive in the light of the creator once you die. Jagang believes the same and only kept the sisters of the dark as a source of power to help reach his goals. He didn't believe in their cause. The fact is, the people from the Old World and the IO just wanted the pain of life to end so they could basically move on to the main show. Dick, in his infinite wisdom says he's giving them exactly what they want but takes the afterlife (heaven or hell, depending on how they may have been judged) away from them. Richard's old S&M mommy made it to heaven after making a sacrifice in Richard's name. At the end of the second book, The creator even brought Dick and Kahlan together to have sex in a big heavenly bed between worlds. ...which reminds me. Here on earth, it's understandable that there'd be a lot of folk focused on life and living. We have no proof of H or H. What kind of smug MF who KNOWS there's a heaven and hell makes the kind of decisions and declarations that Dick does? Grr... I'm so glad I'm free now. lol Normally it'd be really difficult to identify with such one-dimensional evil like the IO, but after what our hero did, I'm all for communism if it helps snuff out the life of a-holes like Dick. This, coming from someone who thought The Fountainhead was his favorite book before ever reading SoT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmail Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 As i have little to do today, i am lurking around the net, and decided to stop into a TG forum. Here is what some of the brains there had to say: Maybe I am reading too much into your particular choice of words, but my interpretation is that you are suggesting that these attacks on Terry are a minor issue. I do not agree with that at all. WFR is going to be made into a mini-series by a well-known producer. As a result, I am thrilled: 1) for Terry; 2) that more people will become conversant with the SOT series and I will be able to discuss my favorite books with more people; 3) most importantly, that many more people will be exposed to Terry's philosophy. Call me crazy, but I believe that this is an opportunity for Terry to have a major impact on America. Ayn Rand started the movement of objectivism, a major element of which is personal responsibility, but it still has languished in our society. Her books take too much effort for most people to read and, despite large numbers of sales, objectivism remains a relatively obscure philosophy as far as mainstream America is concerned. Terry can change all of that that. His writing is much more accessible to everyday people. This exposure is going to be HUGE. Let the naysayers like Larry enjoy their last few moments of fun. When mainstream America, particularly the younger generation, really starts to understand what Terry is saying, expect a sea change in American politics. Maybe this is why Larry and his ilk badmouth Terry; they are afraid of these changes. No need to apologize. Your loyalty to Terry and his beliefs has been well documented on this board. I am reminded of that saying "The only thing for evil to triumph, is for good people to do nothing." Perhaps it is a bit strong to describe all TG bashers as evil. I can accept that some people simply don't care for his writing style. However, the vitriolic nature of many of the attacks suggests either great jealousy of Terry's success or a hatred of his philosophy. Clearly, not everyone has to be an objectivist. Mystar, for example, is deeply religious and Mendo has his equilibrism (or whatever he calls it). Be that as it may, I have problems with anyone who just all-out attacks objectivism and all of its principles, including most notably personal responsibility. It is one thing to take issue with various pieces of the philosophy, but to attack it en bloc is unacceptable, in my view. Even if one doesn't agree with Terry, he is attempting to improve our world and the people in it, by getting those people to make an honest appraisal of themselves and the role that each individual plays in his own destiny. Those that would seek to tear down someone like Terry, simply because such an action makes that person feel better about himself, is someone that I consider evil. For quite some time, mystar has attempted to mobilize us against these "enemy forces." Speaking about these issues amongst ourselves, or debating individual enemy combatants when they come to this board, don't seem to be particularly effective. Gag. Objectivism has to be one of the most stunted, narrow minded philosophies around. And despite what the guy above seems to think, there is a reason that Ayn Rands works have languished - because they are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelp Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Gag. Objectivism has to be one of the most stunted, narrow minded philosophies around. And despite what the guy above seems to think, there is a reason that Ayn Rands works have languished - because they are stupid. You just don't get it, do you? Oh well, maybe when you have learned intelligence, honour, and respect, we can talk about this issue. Until then, you are nothing more than a petty schoolyard bully. Her books take too much effort for most people to read. Absolutely agree - I'd take Hercules' Twelve Trials over Ayn Rand any day of the week. Takes much less effort, and it's definitely more useful. It is one thing to take issue with various pieces of the philosophy, but to attack it en bloc is unacceptable, in my view. You are entitled to that view - just as I am entitled to attack a philosophy en bloc. Just like one can attack communism/nationalsocialism/populism/etc en bloc. For quite some time, mystar has attempted to mobilize us against these "enemy forces." Speaking about these issues amongst ourselves, or debating individual enemy combatants when they come to this board, don't seem to be particularly effective. Great, it seems the international anti-Terry conspiracy is back in business - and I was again not informed. Damn! For a debate, both sides would need some arguments - and no, "You don't get it" does not count. There are a number of Terry fans who are definitely able to debate, but a very loud minority makes said debates almost impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosicus Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Did I really leave out the bit where he basically consigned all the souls on that other world to oblivion? And every soul of everyone who will ever be born on that world? Damn, I guess I was distracted by my brains dripping out my ears. I would say that I would try harder next time, but there ain't gonna be one. Edit: Oh yeah, and if a SoT mini-series can effect "a sea of change" in american politics then, well, I guess I'll be a lot happier that I'm in Canada. At least until their legions come north to subjugate us with statues and long boring speeches. Or will it be gang-rape? Which way is this big change supposed to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caligula_K Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Did I really leave out the bit where he basically consigned all the souls on that other world to oblivion? And every soul of everyone who will ever be born on that world? Damn, I guess I was distracted by my brains dripping out my ears. I would say that I would try harder next time, but there ain't gonna be one. Edit: Oh yeah, and if a SoT mini-series can effect "a sea of change" in american politics then, well, I guess I'll be a lot happier that I'm in Canada. At least until their legions come north to subjugate us with statues and long boring speeches. Or will it be gang-rape? Which way is this big change supposed to go? Well, as we all know, us Canadians don't have democracy or rights, so its imperative that we do not discuss these things, and allow our glorious leader, Khruschev Harper, to inform us of the possibilities of gang rape and statue placing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreverlad Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Did I really leave out the bit where he basically consigned all the souls on that other world to oblivion? And every soul of everyone who will ever be born on that world? Damn, I guess I was distracted by my brains dripping out my ears. I would say that I would try harder next time, but there ain't gonna be one. Don't sweat it Moose. You obviously forgot about terminal elements. I remember you saying how that junction locked it, by means of the azimuth angle, to the person to enable the spell to locate them and then attach the proper parcels. I figured that would make it essential to the function of the whole thing. I altered the ratio so that it would change the position linking it to the subject. Honest mistake, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potsherds Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Edit: Oh yeah, and if a SoT mini-series can effect "a sea of change" in american politics then, well, I guess I'll be a lot happier that I'm in Canada. At least until their legions come north to subjugate us with statues and long boring speeches. Or will it be gang-rape? Which way is this big change supposed to go? I already think too many aspects of Tairy & Rand pseudo-philosophy and Libertarianism exist in this country, and too many people here are drawn to such ideologies. That entire post by that dude was amusing, from a this lemming's point of view. And the second one was nutty. My gods, what a black and white world that second dude lives in. We're 'enemy combatants' (ugh, a little heavy on the Bush'isms there :sick:) because we think Tairy is a douche, and his protagonists are just as sick and depraved as the baddies? By the by, does that mean the dude thinks we should all be shipped down to Gitmo and waterboarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potsherds Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Don't sweat it Moose. You obviously forgot about terminal elements. I remember you saying how that junction locked it, by means of the azimuth angle, to the person to enable the spell to locate them and then attach the proper parcels. I figured that would make it essential to the function of the whole thing. I altered the ratio so that it would change the position linking it to the subject. Honest mistake, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Well, as we all know, us Canadians don't have democracy or rights, so its imperative that we do not discuss these things, and allow our glorious leader, Khruschev Harper, to inform us of the possibilities of gang rape and statue placing. Is that due to our lack of a right to bear arms? Cause people keep saying that. I figure it's true, cause I know that we'd all be much better off up here if only I owned a handgun with which to shoot death choosers (ie - socialists). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthmail Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 It just scares me that they treat him like some sort of messiah. Oh, and incidently, that was the first time i was on his sight. I had not realized that Tairy is Richard Rahl! Holy shit, he's come to save us all. As for invading Canada, i am sure that they will gang rape us into choosing life. And because we are a people that tend towards...i don't know, talking to people instead of bombing them because that clearly does not work, we had best not protest their more war like methods. Or they will kill us. And then gang rape our dead bodies. What a load of horse shit. I am utterly stunned by the crap that both Tairy and his fans say...its unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolf Maid Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I couldn't find anything more ridiculous than a man fighting for his rights to live the life he chooses deciding who has a right to go to heaven or hell. Megalomaniac, Richard is. Edit: Oh yeah, and if a SoT mini-series can effect "a sea of change" in american politics then, well, I guess I'll be a lot happier that I'm in Canada. At least until their legions come north to subjugate us with statues and long boring speeches. Or will it be gang-rape? Which way is this big change supposed to go? And I'll be equally as glad I live in the Philippines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jhogo's Evil Twin Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 i tried reading confessor i cant do it. i was able to slog through the other books but not this one maybe if i didnt have a time limit with the library book i might be able to get through it i quit, no mas, do not want :mad: im willing to take on eng though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanatic-Templar Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 The rest of Canada might get off with being gang-raped or statued into Choosing Life, but for those of us in the jibber-jabbering part of the country, I'm afraid death is all that awaits us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max the Mostly Mediocre Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 And I'll be equally as glad I live in the Philippines. Just wait 'til we conquer free the shit out of you again, a la 1898. Then you'll be sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share Posted November 22, 2007 Arthmail, The "Larry" that was mentioned in that series of quotes you did was me, by the way. Did you read the blog entry I had made that had set them off in such frenzy that myst@r felt like he had to devote an entire post to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shryke Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Which parts the jibber-jabbering one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobelpoke Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I would never live in a place where i wouldn't be allowed to have Bear Arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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