Padraig Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 But Margaery is a schemer. Of course she's sweet on the outside, but it is pretty obvious that she and her grandmother are two of the main schemers in the story, especially visible in AFFC. And she was in on the plan on killing Joffrey.Yes. I agree. Margarey is supposed to look innocent but given her interactions with the Queen of Thorns etc, its pretty clear that she can be devious. The QoT would have trained her to be an expert. Hopefully they will maintain that difference.Ten episodes is not a lot of time to cover ACOK; the more focus on Margaery, the less there can be for Arya, Sansa, Bran etc. Of course, this is all just speculation.There are a few reasons I think they decided to add Margarey stuff. It gives Littlefinger more to do in S2, which I think is quite important. It gets us more involved with the Renly, Stannis storyline. And because Margarey becomes more important in later books, they decided to go all out in S2 and give her a proper role to attract a name actress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The hairy bear Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Perhaps they're combining the Queen of Thorns and Margaery into one single character? You could have her negotiationg her marriage with Littlefinger, asking Sansa about Joffrey, and then being the main suspect of the murder.I could see this working and making for an interesting character. And even if I prefer the book version, they have to reduce the number of characters somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose Seal Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Perhaps they're combining the Queen of Thorns and Margaery into one single character? You could have her negotiationg her marriage with Littlefinger, asking Sansa about Joffrey, and then being the main suspect of the murder.I could see this working and making for an interesting character. And even if I prefer the book version, they have to reduce the number of characters somehow...As much as I love the QoT as a character and she'd make an excellent character on TV, I understand that if need to cut characters, that would be a very acceptable solution, as the QoT is rarely seen without Margaery anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Barristan Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 As much as I love the QoT as a character and she'd make an excellent character on TV, I understand that if need to cut characters, that would be a very acceptable solution, as the QoT is rarely seen without Margaery anyways.Wow it would really suck if they had to cut QoT she has maggie smith written all over her (if they could pull it off) but i guess at some point its going to get too big with characters... Will Mace Tyrell be cast? What about the other Tyrell, the one who wears Renly's army? I know they don't have huge roles, but i think it would be pretty important to have Mace be cast, if not now in season 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Wow it would really suck if they had to cut QoT she has maggie smith written all over her (if they could pull it off) but i guess at some point its going to get too big with characters... Will Mace Tyrell be cast? What about the other Tyrell, the one who wears Renly's army?I know they don't have huge roles, but i think it would be pretty important to have Mace be cast, if not now in season 3Doesn't Loras wear Renly's Armor to the Blackwater.QOT isn't really in the books a whole lot iirc, so they could combine marg and her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrionthebest Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Doesn't Loras wear Renly's Armor to the Blackwater.QOT isn't really in the books a whole lot iirc, so they could combine marg and her.No, it was Garlan who wore Renly's armor . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 ahh okay. i guess it's not a real stretch to put Loras in the armor though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Barristan Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 ahh okay. i guess it's not a real stretch to put Loras in the armor though.yea but the whole point is Renly's ghost is fighting alongside Loras... Either way I think they should have more Tyrell's introduced than just Loras and Margaery. They aren't going to seem like that powerful of a house if the only guy we meet is Loras. I'm hoping to see Mace and QoT introduced in season three at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose Seal Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Has it been confirmed that season 2 will cover the entirety of Clash ? I was under the impression that they are going to stretch some storylines into season 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Has it been confirmed that season 2 will cover the entirety of Clash ?I was under the impression that they are going to stretch some storylines into season 3.Some storylines may reach their conclusion in S3 but on the other hand, they might move some material from aSoS into S2. So it all balances up to a degree.I'm hoping to see Mace and QoT introduced in season three at leastI'm sure there will be a lot of Tyrell extras around. I'd also fear that they would combine Margarey and QoT. It is possible, even if QoT is very entertaining. Mace is probably more likely to appear later on, just because he does add substance to the power struggles in aSoS and aFfC but no guarantees. I don't think Garlan will appear though. Renly's ghost will just have to lead the charge on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeakLemonDrink Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I think QoT is just too good a character to discard. She only needs to be around for a few episodes in the one season (easy to cast someone big, perhaps?) and she'll obviously be hugely effective on screen.Mace has also got to be a must and, as Oh Pod says, he can come in next season but the problem is they'll have to cast someone who's going to be able to stick around for the long haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 4 pages and no complaints about Stannis not being bald? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeakLemonDrink Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 4 pages and no complaints about Stannis not being bald?This does seem to be a big problem for some, but luckily for me I only started reading A Clash of Kings after Stannis was cast, so my mental image has always been Dillane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abaddon Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Can't wait for Davos. I hope his devotion to Stannis doesn't come off as too slavish in the TV show, missing that internal monologue might be hard to get the finer points of Stannis / Davos relationship across.Davos is notable because he doesn't just internally monologue and then swallow his concerns. He always speaks his mind, no matter whether Stannis or his lords are interested in hearing it or not. So I don't think we have to worry about that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkBlack21 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 No way they cut the Queen of Thornes. her role is perfectly suited for the TV series. I think she comes in Season 3. Helen Mirren would be an awesome Queen of Thornes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padraig Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 No way they cut the Queen of Thornes. her role is perfectly suited for the TV series.True. Because of that, if I had to guess, I would say they will include her. (But I will fear until we hear something something more substantive).There are many older British women they can cast as QoT though. That type of actress is almost a British speciality. Expecting a really big name is very optimistic IMO given the options available.4 pages and no complaints about Stannis not being bald?A good sign of intelligence IMO. :) Its not that it physical characteristics isn't important for a few characters but there is a lot more to Stannis than hair.Edited to clarify what "it" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chise Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 4 pages and no complaints about Stannis not being bald?ppfffft, Tywin was different visually from books too, but Charles Dance OWNED IT once he gets on screen. Stannis could be just as good, once we actually see a full scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roose Seal Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 ppfffft, Tywin was different visually from books too, but Charles Dance OWNED IT once he gets on screen. Stannis could be just as good, once we actually see a full sceneYeah exactly. I don't care much about physical details if the actor owns the character. Tywin, Ned, Tyrion... most of the characters didn't match the description, but the actors were so good it doesn't matter.As long as Stannis' character is still as deadpan and stern, I'll pardon the non-baldness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Barristan Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 In the same way Ned /Sean Bean was the face of season 1, are there plans to market one or multiple characters for this season? I'm talking posters, future dvd cover, commercials, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waaimasjien Posted November 26, 2011 Share Posted November 26, 2011 No way they cut the Queen of Thornes. her role is perfectly suited for the TV series. I think she comes in Season 3. Helen Mirren would be an awesome Queen of Thornes.Yes, the Queen of Thornes was awesome in the book! Really enjoyed reading about her, some of the funniest parts in the series. Don't think they're gonna get a big name like Mirren though. Some one else suggested Maggie Smith, who would also be great, but probably a bit too expansive too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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