Summerqueen Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 I think both of you capture the complicated nature of the issue.Do I think that Lyanna was driven by any prophesy?IMHO, probably not. While she was of the old religion, I have a feeling she was not the most "devout" individual in the world, and tended to focus on the here and now.Was she driven by honor?Yes, her actions point to that, so I don't think she would go off with a married man, even if she loved him.Given what we know of Starks and honor, as well as an expectation of self-sacrifice, she might even feel more inclined to marry Robert, despite what she felt about either man.(Brandon could very well have loved either Lady Dustin, or even Ashara, but he fully intended to do his duty and marry Caitlyn, and he was the most wild of them all).Did she love Rhaegar?I think so, but again, it doesn't mean it didn't come without personal conflict, and of the two of them, my gut tells me she would have been the most saavy of the two in terms of what it could mean for them. And if the promise she made Ned keep was to keep Jons idenity a secret and raise him as his own, then I think that is a sign of her more practical nature.The kidnapping/abduction.He could have abducted her knowing her personal conflict and resistance, thereby taking the hit to his honor to preserve hers.She was taken at swordpoint, at least according to what Dany heard.What context she heard it in is debatable of course, but since it's dopy Dany and she's viewing it through the prism of a romantic event could mean the opposite, and that it was a violent event, or at least started out innocent and got out of hand.I think of Lyanna as a sort of Juliet figure. She is always the pragmatist to Romeo's romantic performances. He does a lo-o-o-o-ot of talking to get in her window, and they get married before the Big Event seals their fates.They are one of the few Houses that did not employ their own Headsman, because they believed if you were going to take a life, you did it yourself instead of passing the dirty work off to someone else.Also, they don't have the following they do from the North based just on prestige, or fear alone. Yes, as Sansa concludes when listening to Cersei's ruling philosophy, fear alone does not win loyalty in any degree close to what gaining the love of retainers can bring a ruler. She is a Stark through and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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