mcb Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 One point: let's assume for the sake of argument that Benjen and Coldhands are two different persons in the show. It doesn't mean that they are also two different persons in the books. We have seen GOT diverting from ASOIAF's plot in many places, minor and not so minor. Arya and Tywin bonding in Harrenhal, Robb marrying some Essosi self-appointed Florence Nightingale, to mention just a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danm_999 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I think the text provides plenty of hints Benjen ain't Coldhands without needing to go to the show, which isn't strictly canon and may make decisions based on practical factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoSuperstar Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I think the text provides plenty of hints Benjen ain't Coldhands without needing to go to the show, which isn't strictly canon and may make decisions based on practical factors.And a lot of people disagrees with your opinion about the subject. So, what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of the Smiling Knight Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Cold Hands is the Night King duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So1ar Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 however if they did something like make Benjen Coldhands in the show where he wasn't Coldhands within the books, then thats just horriblewhy? coldhands is a cool character but incredibly minor and will serve no purpose to the overall story. he just rides a moose, takes bran and co. to the 3 eyed crow all while having about 4 lines. why not have him be a character the audience would remember from the 1st season? i think it would be a good change if they did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Andronicus Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 why? coldhands is a cool character but incredibly minor and will serve no purpose to the overall story. he just rides a moose, takes bran and co. to the 3 eyed crow all while having about 4 lines. why not have him be a character the audience would remember from the 1st season? i think it would be a good change if they did it.Because 1: Benjen wasn't so huge of a character that he would be remembered (the man had all of five lines, did he not?), and 2: Benjen and Coldhands are two distinct and separate characters. That would be like saying they should have used the same actor that played Syrio to be Jaqen, because why not? There's a crackpot theory about it online, fans liked Syrio, it would be a good change.Except for the small fact that they are completely separate characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormund Giant***** Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 So, no one has actually found confirmation of this at all then? And it is still just a rumour? I hope it is true though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So1ar Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Because 1: Benjen wasn't so huge of a character that he would be remembered (the man had all of five lines, did he not?), and 2: Benjen and Coldhands are two distinct and separate characters. That would be like saying they should have used the same actor that played Syrio to be Jaqen, because why not? There's a crackpot theory about it online, fans liked Syrio, it would be a good change.Except for the small fact that they are completely separate characters.apples and oranges. jaqen looks nothing like syrio and he actually has a part to play in this story (remember he's at the citadel). coldhands however was a ranger and brother of the nights watch. he bascially has no part in the story other than riding a moose towards bloodraven. also, coldhands is a "no name ranger" who was killed a while back. we basically know nothing about him and probably never will. so with that in mind it's not much of a change to morp him from a dead ranger to a dead benjen stark. he's just an empty vessel that could be changed into a character the audience would recognize. we already have enough ambiguous characters "missing" as it is who will never return. my point is it's just a way for people (non book readers) to get some closure and i think it would be a good change. if in fact it even is a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I believe Burn Gorman. Trying to find a link that isn't just a rumour give me a few minutes.He was great on torchwood. As well as The Hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tommen Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I refuse to take this thread seriously until someone edits the title. No one gets "casted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetyrPunkinhead Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I refuse to take this thread seriously until someone edits the title. No one gets "casted".You "stoled" the words right out of my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Andronicus Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 apples and oranges. jaqen looks nothing like syrio and he actually has a part to play in this story (remember he's at the citadel). coldhands however was a ranger and brother of the nights watch. he bascially has no part in the story other than riding a moose towards bloodraven. also, coldhands is a "no name ranger" who was killed a while back. we basically know nothing about him and probably never will. so with that in mind it's not much of a change to morp him from a dead ranger to a dead benjen stark. he's just an empty vessel that could be changed into a character the audience would recognize. we already have enough ambiguous characters "missing" as it is who will never return. my point is it's just a way for people (non book readers) to get some closure and i think it would be a good change. if in fact it even is a change.Almost every character has a part to play in the story, and Coldhands most certainly had a purpose. And just because you believe he was a "no name ranger" does not make it so. My money is on him being the Night's King. And morphing him into Benjen Stark would be very, very detrimental, because we have not seen anything like Coldhands yet. All we know is that "they killed him long ago". We don't who who "they" are, we don't know how he died, nothing. We don't know that Benjen Stark could ever become what Coldhands is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longspear Ryk Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 So, no one has actually found confirmation of this at all then? And it is still just a rumour? I hope it is true though.Honostly i think theyll leave coldhands untill next season, with sam's storyline ending with him fleeing crasters's keep with gilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
So1ar Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Almost every character has a part to play in the story, and Coldhands most certainly had a purpose. And just because you believe he was a "no name ranger" does not make it so. My money is on him being the Night's King. And morphing him into Benjen Stark would be very, very detrimental, because we have not seen anything like Coldhands yet. All we know is that "they killed him long ago". We don't who who "they" are, we don't know how he died, nothing. We don't know that Benjen Stark could ever become what Coldhands is.i believe he is a "no name ranger" because at this point in the story that's what he is. however, if he turns out to be the nights king or anyone else for that matter then i'll be on your side. but for now, he's no one. so until we find out who cold hands is, i agree to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Lady Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I know this might be a little old news, but they casted the part of Coldhands finally, and it is not the guy who plays Benjen, or anyone we have seen thus far in the series. That being said, with this hopefully dispelling Benjen believers, I believe that this means very well that Coldhands is a Stark, and the Nightking.what are you guys' thoughts?If benjen were coldhands they would not hire the same actor because that way they would be admitting that he really is coldhands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Porno Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Can a moderator change the title to the more grammatically correct "cast?" It drives me insane whenever I see this thread's title! BLAH!!!That said, I don't think the fact that the actor who was cast is different from the one who plays Benjen is any indication that they AREN'T the same character - after all, three different actors played Darth Vader (four if you count the crappy prequels and the BS ROTJ blu-ray) in Star Wars. However I don't necessarily think they are the same character. It would be cool if he was and there's some awesome secret origin, but it might be better if he's not. I could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Fixed. And no, Coldhands has not been confirmed as the role Burn Gorman plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarbear Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I don't see them casting a fairly well-regarded character actor in a role where he will be mostly silent and covered in make-up. Why don't they just use a well covered stuntman and wait to recast a real actor when the role starts to become important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan the Drunkard Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 why? coldhands is a cool character but incredibly minor and will serve no purpose to the overall story. he just rides a moose, takes bran and co. to the 3 eyed crow all while having about 4 lines. why not have him be a character the audience would remember from the 1st season? i think it would be a good change if they did it.What if he becomes an even more important character in the future of the series? The writers supposedly know more than we do about how the books end, so it is possible that they wouldn't want to (theoretically) change a character's identity just to give the fan's closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khal Porno Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Fixed. And no, Coldhands has not been confirmed as the role Burn Gorman plays.Werthead is the man!I think Coldhands is actually a pretty cool character that an actor would like to play, in response to polarbear's suggestion that a good actor wouldn't want to play him. If done right, he could be the Boba Fett of Game of Thrones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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