Tibi088 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 About Robb's death: what made me so incredibly angry was not that he died but how he died. If he died in battle or something that would have been far more acceptable but this way of treachery was infuriating.About Stannis: my only problem with him is Melisandre. I would be sad if he died as he is my favorite contender for the iron throne but just like in Robb's chase it would depend on the circumstances of his death. There are acceptable ways to die for instance for one beliefs or protecting someone or something important to him. Dieing that way would be acceptable for me. The problem would be who should i hope to win if he dies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ab aeterno Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 This is the quote from Wiki'Melisandre urged him to sacrifice Edric Storm to complete a spell that she claimed would raise dragons from stone and grant him more power. Stannis, though initially reluctant, was about to follow through with the ritual when Ser Davos smuggled the boy away and urged Stannis to take his remaining forces north to defend the Wall'he more than considered it, he was about to do it. And I may be wrong but didn't he want to burn him for favourable winds? or was it to try and wake dragons from dragonstone? anyhow trusting some crazy Ashai priestes and burning inocent children for your own gain is wrong (something Eddard would never have done)The wiki isn't the books. I have to go now but I will give you the quotes when I get back.Ned caused the ruin of his family because he was an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Walrus Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'd shout out my sheer joy and do a nice irish jig... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willy york Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 without giving away any spoilers, in the winds of winters chapter posted on GRRM's website, stannis's death is foreshadowed by stannis himself. i do think hes going to die but i think he will die in a cool way, fighting others or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 The wiki isn't the books. I have to go now but I will give you the quotes when I get back.Ned caused the ruin of his family because he was an idiot.The lanisters caused the downfall of Ned's family becasue they are self centerd, selfish, imoral and douch bags. admitidly there were other reasons yes but Ned is not one of them, he was a nice guy doing his duty but he got fuc*ed by the D*ckss of Westeros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I'd shout out my sheer joy and do a nice irish jig...Looks like someone's braved up with the Stannis hate!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Walrus Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Looks like someone's braved up with the Stannis hate!!Braved up? That implies that i'm not normally brave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I would feel the same as i do when any lobster gets placed in a boiling pot of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 The wiki isn't the books. I have to go now but I will give you the quotes when I get back.Ned caused the ruin of his family because he was an idiot.wow. Ned didn't cause the ruin of his House. And what ensued wasn't caused by idiocy so much as mercy. I realize that the Stannis solution to the problem would be to simply burn Cersei's children alive.....ETA: Braved up? That implies that i'm not normally brave...Did you take your name from the Great Walrus wildling clan leader, or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximilian Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I would cry like a little girl manly tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Braved up? That implies that i'm not normally brave...Just Joking man, only cos yesterday when I told E Ro that Stannis Sucks you were all like 'god dam it man you're going to get all killed' don't worry I get that you were joking tho. however I didn't know that you were one of the few Anti Stannis guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 wow. Ned didn't cause the ruin of his House. And what ensued wasn't caused by idiocy so much as mercy. I realize that the Stannis solution to the problem would be to simply burn Cersei's children alive.....ETA:Did you take your name from the Great Walrus wildling clan leader, or something else? :agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Walrus Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 ETA:Did you take your name from the Great Walrus wildling clan leader, or something else?Yes,in fact i did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodrik Cassel Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 if stan dies the last acceptable candidate for the throne has died. praying would do the trick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Bahh, I piss on the iron throne, The king In the North! :bowdown:that said I think a bit of big vic on the throne would be good for the realm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Blood! Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 My first thought would be "Finally!", I really can't stand the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 If Stannis dies, the "official" Baratheon would no longer exist. :(. Except Shireen, but she is going to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yes,in fact i did.lol, my mental image of that guy is somewhere between the Lorax and the Yeti from Twilight Princess. I like the Great Wlarus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decrepid dragon Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 If Stannis dies I will be sad. However I always knew Stannis wouldn't get the throne no matter how well suited he is for it, no matter what happens in Westeros there is a 99% chance that the Dany will come back to Westeros with dragons and basically destroy anyone who doesn't follow her, although something will probably happen in the end that means she won't be queen. So he better die in an awesome fashion, every chapter I read where he is still alive shall be a moment of happiness.wow. Ned didn't cause the ruin of his House. And what ensued wasn't caused by idiocy so much as mercy. I realize that the Stannis solution to the problem would be to simply burn Cersei's children alive.....That would probably be Roberts reaction, minus the burning, his temper is bad enough. Stannis reaction would be whatever the law and precedent states about highborn bastards, which is probably different to those with one baseborn parent. It seems unlikely that there is a law in Westeros against incest, however socially unnacceptable it might be, as the Targs probably wouldn't have outlawed something they themselves practiced (that's just a guess though). Cersei would go on trial of course, with the main focus no doubt on trying to pass off her children as heirs to the throne. All very reasonable with minimal bloodshed, at least until Tywin raised his banners. Then again, if Tywin accepted the evidence, or if every other house didn't accept Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcella he might just cut his losses to protect the Lannister name.But Stannis is basically amazing, so he will find a way to defeat Daenerys and her dragons and cast the Others back into the sea, while bringing all the traitorous elements of Westeros to heel and making them pay for bleeding the kingdom, and conquering the free cities to bring an end to their useless warring(Please please please please please). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian of the Lhazareen Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 If Stannis dies I will be sad. However I always knew Stannis wouldn't get the throne no matter how well suited he is for it, no matter what happens in Westeros there is a 99% chance that the Dany will come back to Westeros with dragons and basically destroy anyone who doesn't follow her, although something will probably happen in the end that means she won't be queen. So he better die in an awesome fashion, every chapter I read where he is still alive shall be a moment of happiness.That would probably be Roberts reaction, minus the burning, his temper is bad enough. Stannis reaction would be whatever the law and precedent states about highborn bastards, which is probably different to those with one baseborn parent. It seems unlikely that there is a law in Westeros against incest, however socially unnacceptable it might be, as the Targs probably wouldn't have outlawed something they themselves practiced (that's just a guess though). Cersei would go on trial of course, with the main focus no doubt on trying to pass off her children as heirs to the throne. All very reasonable with minimal bloodshed, at least until Tywin raised his banners. Then again, if Tywin accepted the evidence, or if every other house didn't accept Joffrey, Tommen and Myrcella he might just cut his losses to protect the Lannister name.But Stannis is basically amazing, so he will find a way to defeat Daenerys and her dragons and cast the Others back into the sea, while bringing all the traitorous elements of Westeros to heel and making them pay for bleeding the kingdom, and conquering the free cities to bring an end to their useless warring(Please please please please please).with Robbert wrath both Jaime and Cersi's heads would beon spikes on the city gates, without a trial, he would also probable kill the kids, hense Ned's 'Mercy', aslo the focus of the trial would be cheating on yoru husband, who was the king I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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