YouSnowNothing Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 As we all know, in Westeros, heroes drop dead like flies and the bad guys often win (that is, as far as there are actual "heroes and villains"). But GRRM also has a way of making sure the more villainous characters get their just desserts too, like Joffrey (poisoned at his own wedding), Tywin (shot in the bowels by his son), Vargo Hoat (driven insane and dismembered) and Viserys (head melted by his sister's husband). It seems very likely that the remaining villains will too be offed by the series end. But the question I want to ask is how? Who will kill each of these villains, and how - or will they die of other causes, or might some even survive?For the record, here are the characters I'm classifying as the remaining "villains":LittlefingerRoose BoltonRamsay BoltonCersei LannisterWalder Frey(Un)Gregor CleganeLady StoneheartEuron GreyjoyRemind me if I've forgotten anyone.As for my guesses:Littlefinger - Killed by Sansa after she finds out about his part in her father's death. She plots to undermine all his plans and his "affection" for her proves to be his undoing. She will kill him herself - the man who passes the sentence must swing the sword (though it probably won't be a literal sword, likely poisoning or a shove out the moon door).Roose - Killed by Jaime Lannister. My bet is that he escapes Lady Stoneheart's "justice" by promising her the head of the man who murdered her son. He doesn't fulfil this promise at first (having more important things to do), but eventually finds himself in a position to kill Roose, and decides to honour his vow - "Catelyn Stark sends her regards." *stab*Ramsay - Killed by his own starving dogs during the siege of Winterfell. I just think it'd be a wonderfully karmic death for Ramsay to be hunted by his own "bitches".Cersei - Killed by Arya. "The valonquar", is not Cersei's younger sibling, but the younger sibling of the "younger and more beautiful queen", who will be Sansa (Queen in the North). Cersei is always the final person on Arya's list, and only she and Ilyn Payne are actually still alive. Bonus points if as she is dying, Cersei mistakes her killer for Lyanna.Walder Frey - Dies of natural causes before the series ends. The guy's like 90, and not everyone can have a satisfactory karmic death.UnGregor - Actually not sure. My guess is that Brienne, Jaime and Sandor all converge in the Vale (looking for Sansa) as will Arya (on her return from Braavos), and Cersei sends UnGregor to deal with Sansa. Bran's dream in AGoT supports this, when he sees three figures surrounding Sansa and Arya - a man with a hound's head (Sandor), a knight "armoured like the sun" (Jaime?), and a giant with no head made of stone (Gregor). I think the series has built up the Clegane brothers conflict enough that it will be resolved, so I think Sandor will be involved in the storyline, but I also think that a big part of Sandor's development in leaving his "Hound" persona behind is moving on from the need to kill his brother, so I don't think he will actually kill him himself. I think Brienne might, as she is one of the only characters in the series capable of taking on Gregor in a fight. As for how - we know fire kills the undead, and after what he did to Sandor, how karmic would death-by-fire be?I actually don't have a clear theory for Stoneheart or Euron, but I'd love to hear other people's ideas. So go on, who will kill who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runaway Penguin Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger - Sansa likely. Moon Door? I guess not. More like heads, spikes, walls.Roose Bolton - bleeds to death after the Stark Loyalist forces turn on him during the siege of Winterfell.Ramsay Bolton - heads, spikes, walls.Cersei Lannister - I tend to agree that it won't be Jaime or Tyrion, but someone's little sibling. Probably not Stark's either. Maybe... The Hound?Walder Frey - eaten by wolfpack led by Nymeira. (Un)Gregor Clegane - Hound. After UnGregor defeats champions of Faith one after another and his undeadness is revealed, Faith convinces Sandor to champion it. Lady Stoneheart - Someone from BwB. Toros maybe? Or Blackfish when he reaches the Outlaws.Euron Greyjoy - Eaten by dragon. Or else Sam the Slayer and heads, spikes, walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hear Us Roar Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Who says the have to?The "villains" seem to be doing okay so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormcloak Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I always imagined Littlefinger as the very last epilogue point of view, having survived and schemed through everything and taken up his seat in Harrenhal. In his mind he's won the game of thrones and then Arya comes for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ororo727 Jon Snow Fangirl Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger - Lady Stoneheart, that would be the sweetest revenge.Roose Bolton - Lady Dustin, A dagger in the entrails.Ramsay Bolton - Burned alive by dragon fire after being flayed.Cersei Lannister - Choked to death by Tyrion.Walder Frey - Eaten by Nymeria and her wolfpack(Un)Gregor Clegane - Not sureLady Stoneheart - AryaEuron Greyjoy - Ripped apart by Strong Belwas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger-Sansa via hairnet poisonRoose Bolton -Killed by RamseyRamsey Bolton - death by arrow courtesy of Theon 'suspiciously still has his bow fingers left' GreyjoyCersei -Arya Walder Frey-At the Riverrun Wedding massacre by Stoneheart or the Others overrunning the TwinsRobert Strong -No idea. Lady Stoneheart -Don't really see her as a villan, but possible dies in the smouldering ruins of RiverrunEuron-Him and Vic as Dragon SnackettesJaime -Killed by Brienne with Oathkeeper so that it can be reformed to become light bringerTyrion Lannister- Greyscale (more of a wish at this point)Khal J and Khal P - Via Dany and DragonVarys-Survives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where Boars Glow Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger- I don't think he does. I think Sansa beats him out and forces him out of the veil....I picture him stripped of everything and starting over to once again work his way up from nothing.....Roose Bolton - Shaggydog will be the one that gets him in the end. Baddddd puppyRamsay Bolton - This guy is like a cat.... when it looks worst he still lands on his feet. I think he is sent to the wall. Cersei Lannister- I agree this is Arya's to handle. I think when the Ungregor thing comes crashing down on her....she will flee. Arya will be waiting on the road.Walder Frey- He doesn't die.....to the pain is what he gets.....he lives on in freakish misery to watch the destruction of his whole house and line.(Un)Gregor Clegane - After he goes Frankenstein monster on Kings Landing he flees the pitchforks and torches into the woods....eventually this will lead to a confrontation with Jamie/Sandor.Lady Stoneheart - She will give up her Unlife to someone else willingly therefore making herself not a villian. Like Berric (Not that he was a villain)Euron Greyjoy - he will die the exact way that Tyrion said he hoped he one day would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asshai Hipster Town Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger - executed on orders from Robin, who is being controlled by SansaRoose - I think will survive, banished to Nights WatchRamsey - Poisoned by Barbrey Ryswell Cersei - TyrionWalder - If he dies it'll be naturalClegane - Selma or a MartyellStoneheart - No one, just gives up lifeforceEuron - Dany with the dragons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woman of War Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Walder Frey will not die within the timeframe of the books, he will have have to see his house get destroyed and watch most of his family die. I do not need the catharsis to see a ninety year old die, I mean this will happen anyways a little later.And no, actually I think that some of the bad guys and girls will get away, just like in life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger - UnGregor, lies and Arbor gold won't work without guy without an head Roose Bolton - RamsayRamsay Bolton - Mance, Jon Snow, Arya or some direwolf Cersei Lannister - Jaime or grandiose suicide when she burns whole KL Walder Frey - natural death or Black Walder killing him(Un)Gregor Clegane - Sansa, gravitation and Moon DoorLady Stoneheart - Sandor or Arya. There is something about undead and iron, so I can see Arya giving up her iron coin and putting her undead mother and own vengeance to rest. That or she will bring her mom Cersei's head for the Mother's day. Euron Greyjoy - greyscale or FM Varys - we will never know for certain Jon Connington - will kill Aegon when he learns he is fake and then will be killed by Aegon's KG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident full of Dogs Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger: UnCat so Ned will be avenged.Roose: Ramsay would easily kill him to become Lord Bolton.Ramsay: hate the guy, think he'll stick around to the last book. I would like Mance to send him beyond the Wall to be killed by the Others.Cersei: the valonqar will kill her but who is the valonqar? I hope its not Jaime.Walder Frey: Blackfish. I dont see Stoneheart as a villain. Shes more like a vigilante I guess.I want to see Podrick kill a villain.Jaime will kill the Mountain perhaps so Sandor wont be a kinslayer. But since Gregor is a zombie Sandor wouldnt be really his killer right? His killer would be Oberyn. Qyburn is a baddie. He and Ramsay deserve gruesome.deaths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shiera Seastar~ Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Roose Bolton --- Jon or Stannis will chop his head off for being a traitorRamsay Bolton --- Jon will make him his ReekLittlefinger --- the Blackfish will chop his head off, or Sansa will poison himCersei --- somebody will strangle her pretty neckWalder Frey --- Lady Stoneheart will cut his throatEuron Greyjoy --- will be drownLady Stoneheart --- not a villain, but she will outlive them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaleMare Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I agree with others on this thread about Stoneheart...she is a victim turned vigilantes.Roosevelt will be destroyed by Stannis or Jon.Walder Frey - the BWBCersei -hopefully ripped to shreds by a pack of direwolves, barring that Aryan must_gank herJaime -If Brienne has any honor, she will bring Stoneheart Jaime's head. As far as Stoneheart is concerned, Jaime betrayed her and planned the murderer of her son.I don't care what happens to the Greyjoys, I am hoping they are all dead by the end of the next book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaleMare Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I agree with others on this thread about Stoneheart...she is a victim turned vigilantes.Roose_will be destroyed by Stannis or Jon.Walder Frey - the BWBCersei -hopefully ripped to shreds by a pack of direwolves, barring that Arya_must_gank herJaime -If Brienne has any honor, she will bring Stoneheart Jaime's head. As far as Stoneheart is concerned, Jaime betrayed her and planned the murder_of her son.I don't care what happens to the Greyjoys, I am hoping they are all dead by the end of the next book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger: Sansa's Chekhov's Hairnet.Cersei: Probably Jaime.Roose: Err...not sure about this one. Probably Jon or Stannis.Ramsay: Hes gonna get Theon'd. If not him, then Jon.UnGregor: No idea. Varys: He will outlive everyone.Walder Frey: Probably UnCat'd.Euron: Dragon fire.UnCat: Someone (Brienne) will put her out of her misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viserys_The Transformed Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 What you Love kills you.Ned: HonourLittlefinegr: VictoryRamsay: SadismEuron: PowerRoose: White WalkersUncat: VengeanceMelisandre: Fire, R'hollorCersei: Herself :)............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBean Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger - Sansa's hairnetRoose Bolton - Wyman Manderley and/or StannisRamsay Bolton and his dogs - Arya and Nymeria's packCersei Lannister - Jaime, the valonqarWalder Frey - Killed by one of his numerous children/grandchildren(Un)Gregor Clegane - Sandor CleganeLady Stoneheart - One of her kids? At least she'll know that some of them are still alive, and she really needs to be laid down to restEuron Greyjoy - Dunno about this one. Could be anyone really: Victarion, Dany and Drogon, Asha, some random knight from the Seven Kingdoms even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light a wight tonight Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 But the question I want to ask is how? Who will kill each of these villains, and how - or will they die of other causes, or might some even survive?For the record, here are the characters I'm classifying as the remaining "villains":LittlefingerRoose BoltonRamsay BoltonCersei LannisterWalder Frey(Un)Gregor CleganeLady StoneheartEuron GreyjoyLitltefinger: Hairnet strangulationRoose Bolton: loss of blood through overleechingRamsay Bolton: his "girls" turn on him.Cersei Lannister: Valonquar. Maggy the Frog is never wrong.Walder Frey: In bed, with a bellly full of wine, etc. Heh.Ungregor Clegane: Qyburn pulls the plug.Lady Stoneheart: Passes along the life Beric Dondarrion gave her----to Jon Snow.Euron Croweye: a raven pecks out his other eye and he stumbles off the same bridge Balon fell from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger - a random death administered by a moron - all his cunning for nothing. I'm ignoring the Sansa killing a giant stuff. Roose Bolton - Brienne of Tarth 'Jaime Lannister sends his regards'. Hopefully before he has heirs with Walda I want this line to END.Ramsay Bolton - Since its a fantasy story, I can't see why a giant hand holding a giant shoe can't descend from the sky and squash him like a cockroach. Cersei Lannister - Some sort of bungled Cersei plan whereby she accidentally kills herself while locked in a madhouse. (Un)Gregor Clegane - He is not really a villain just a collection of body parts. As I said somewhere else, I would like to see him run amock and take out some of the faith militant.Lady Stoneheart - I don't see her as a villain. Possibly a sinner but don't we all want Freys to die? And Ryman's men had participated in the Red Wedding.Euron Greyjoy - I haven't bothered reading these chapters properly. Too many iron men, too many sand snakes.Jaime - someone has listed him as a villain. incomprehensible! If he dies at Lady Stonehearts I will know that GRRM really is a bastard bastard bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLover Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Littlefinger- Sansa plays a role in his downfall and death, just not sure how. Roose Bolton - Defeated and killed by Stannis. Ramsay Bolton - Arya and her wolf pack take care of him and his dogs Cersei Lannister - No immediate death. She lives a long life as a Silent Sister. Walder Frey - Dies of old age after witnessing the demise of his house at the hands of UnCat and the BwB. (Un)Gregor Clegane - Dragon fire.Lady Stoneheart - Passes her life on to one of her children after vengeance is served, most likely Arya. Euron Greyjoy- Greyscale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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