Pod The Impaler Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Based on what you know of the various houses, who would you pick as alternate lords over each region of the "Seven Kingdoms" ? That is, picking from the "minor" families, excluding the houses which rule over these areas traditionally.(No naming of Houses Targaryen / Blackfyre, Stark, Tully, Tyrell, Lannister, Baratheon, Martell, Arryn, or Greyjoy, nor any bastards of these houses.)The NorthThe ReachThe RiverlandsThe ValeThe Iron IslandsThe WesterlandsThe StormlandsDorneBonus question: The Iron Throne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gronzag Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Dorne- DayneReach- HightowerStormlands- SwanVale- RoyceIron Islands- HarlawThe rest is really toughEdit:Manderly would be great for the North, but they follow Seven and are "new" there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMysteriousOne Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The North: House Manderly. I like their sigil. Also, because of Wyman Manderly and Wylla ManderlyThe Reach: House Hightower. I like Oldtown, and the Hightowers seem prestigious, I don't know why.The Riverlands: House Mallister, I like their sigil. If I didn't dislike the Freys, then I would have chosen them.The Vale: House Royce. The living members of House Royce seem to care about the ValeThe Iron Islands: House Harlaw. Just because of Ten Towers and Rodrik HarlawThe Westerlands: House Crakehall? I don't even like the Westerlands, they seem too boring, IMO.The Stormlands: House Tarth. Tarth seems like a really nice place, and I like House Tarth's sigil.Dorne: House Yronwood or House Dayne, I can't decide I love them bothIron Throne/Crownlands: I don't want any of the houses from the Crownlands to be rulers of the Seven Kingdoms, but if it's only the Crownlands, then I would want either House Velaryon or House Celtigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Goat Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 North: I guess I'd have to go with Manderly, though they might have trouble maintaining legitimacy with more traditionally "northern" lords. The Reeds are too reclusive, the Umbers are too boisterous, etc. Mormont/Glover/Tallhart all appear to be solid, but White Harbor is a successful city during wartime, which is no mean feat.Riverlands: Mallister of Blackwood. After Jaime's ADWD chapter, I lean toward Blackwood.Vale: Royce, he's basically the de facto leader anyway.Westerlands: None of the bannermen seem particularly competent. I'll say Marbrand, I guess, since Addam seems all right.Reach: I was going to say Hightower, but what kind of man shuts himself off in his castle for years on end? I'll go with Rowan: There are numerous clues that point to him being a better man than Redwyne, Tarly, Florent, et al.Stormlands: The Evenstar of Tarth, probably. Or perhaps Penrose; the one member of that family we meet was exceptional. Dorne: Yronwood? This isn't based on too much, but it's the second most powerful house in Dorne, right? And the Big Man is one of my favorites.Iron Islands: I'd say Harlaw, because the Reader is about eight times smarter than any other ironborn. But then again, his personality doesn't really gel with their MO, so I'm not sure he'd be a good fit to lead the whole region.Crownlands/Dragonstone: Geesh, I don't know. I can't think of a single family in either the Crownlands or the narrow sea that has displayed much competence. Ha, maybe the Darklyns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straits Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The North - Bolton or UmberThe Reach - TarlyThe Riverlands - Frey or BlackwoodThe Vale - RoyceThe Iron Islands - HarlawThe Westerlands - MarbrandThe Stormlands - PenroseDorne - Yronwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 North- House KarstarkIt seems odd given recent events. However, House Bolton seems to have less than reputable values and shouldn't be a representative of the North as a whole. The Umbers might give other lords the wrong impression of the North as a whole as well. The Northerners would never accept the Manderly's as paramounts since they are "new" to the North and worship other gods. Glovers and Tallharts are only knightly houses. Mormonts seem too isolated, too poor etc. No one would take the North seriously with a Crannogmen in charge, not to mention they are isolated, so that eliminates House Reed. That basically leaves houses Karstark, Ryswell and Dustin. However, given the former relations to House Stark, I'd give the North to house Karstark. House Dustin would be a second choice.Riverlands- House MallisterObviously no one will accept House Frey willingly. Either naming House Bracken or House Blackwood would cause trouble with the other, given their long standing rivalry. Of course Whent's are out, even though they were probably one of the more powerful at a time. But the Mallister's seem to have a lot going for them. Power, leadership, wealth. To me they seem a great option.Vale- House RoyceThis one is more clear. We don't know a lot about the Vale as a whole, but we can assume that the Royce's are either one of the most, if not the most, powerful minor houses in the Vale. They are old and well established, being able to be traced back to the First Men. Yohn Royce seemed to be the leader of the lords declarant, which means many other houses might look to House Royce for leadership.Westerlands- House CrakehallWe don't know a lot about the Western Houses. This makes this a relatively tough and uninformed decision between Crakehall and Marbrand. But I'll go with Crakehall just because. Though I do like House Marbrand, and Addam seems a cool guy.Reach- House RowanHightower's seem isolated, despite owning a huge port. I despise Randyll Tarly as a person, so I'd never give it to the Tarlys. The Florent's seem to ambitious, and they are attainted anyway. This leaves Redwyne and Rowan, but I'll give it to Rowan because Paxter Redwyne seems a bit of an oaf.Stormlands- House SwannOther than the Baratheons the only real tough houses seem to be the Marcher Lords. The strongest should be Swann, Dondarrion and Caron. Caron is officially gone, and only survive in bastardry. Dondarrion seems in a bad position as well. This leaves House Swann.Iron Islands- House HarlawHarlaw are the richest and most powerful house on the Iron Islands. And given Rodrik the Reader, they should be in charge anyway.Dorne- House YronwoodThey have frequently fought with House Martell, which makes me believe that they are the second strongest anyway. Dayne is another option, but we don't really have any evidence that they are a strong and influential house as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mari Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The North: Greatjon UmberThe Reach: Paxter RedwyneThe Riverlands: Jason MallisterThe Vale: Bronze Yohn RoyceThe Iron Islands: Rodrik HarlawThe Westerlands: Podrick PayneThe Stormlands: Selwyn TarthDorne: Edric Dayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Titan's Legitimate Son Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The North - knows no king but the king in the north whose name is STARKThe Reach - TarlyThe Riverlands - MallisterThe Vale - RoyceThe Iron Islands - A chimp with a stick?The Westerlands - Marbrand?The Stormlands - Seaworth or DondarrionDorne - Dayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackfish67 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The North - GloverThe Reach - OakheartThe Riverlands - BlackwoodThe Vale - RoyceIron Islands - HarlawThe Westerlands - MarbrandThe Stormlands - DondarrionDorne - Santagar (ok this is just based on liking the house name but still...)Crownlands - Celtigar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorah Friendzone Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The North - Mormont of Bear Island - they've been through enough (Dacey dying at the RW, The Old Bear killed by his own men, Jorah... well, see my username), they deserve itThe Reach - Fossoway of Cider HallThe Riverlands - Baelish of Harrenhal :DThe Vale - Borrell of SweetsisterThe Iron Islands - Harlaw of HarlawThe Westerlands - Reyne of Castamere (just kidding) - PayneThe Stormlands - Tarth of Evenfall HallDorne - Dayne of StarfallBonus question: The Iron Throne - Val the wilding princess :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asshai Hipster Town Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 The North ReedThe Reach OakheartThe Riverlands MallisterThe Vale RoyceThe Iron Islands BotleyThe Westerlands PayneThe Stormlands SeaworthDorne DayneIron Throne Rolland Storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King.In.Yellow Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 The North: House Scott under Lord Montgomery. The Riverlands: House Kirk under Lord James. The Vale: House Janeway under Lady Kathryn. The Westerlands: House Ferengi under Lord QuarkThe Stormlands: House Archer under Lord Jonathan.The Reach: House Picard under Lord Jean-LucDorne: House Cisco under Lord BenjaminThe Iron Islands: House Mogh under Lord WorfIron Throne: Data, the first of his name. King of the Humans, The Klingons and the Ferengi.Well, the realm could use some sound management, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 North: ManderlyWesterlands: CrakehallDorne: YronwoodVale: RoyceStormlands: EstermontReach: Fossoway of New Barrel (the good ones)Riverlands: MallisterIron Islands: Harlaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorah Friendzone Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Why are the green-apple Fossoways the good ones?Also, I like how a lot of people want the southron Manderlys or even the Boltons(!) to rule the North, but not the always-loyal Mormonts. Is it because there are only women left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locke and key Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 North - house manderley-only house with the military strength to keep the others in order if the starks were gone.Riverlands - house mallister - would be able to defend the region unlike hosue tully due to their history of fighting off ironborn raidsVale - house waynwood - lady anya knows how to play the gameIron islands - house hoare - If you're gonna raid and invade kingdoms might as well be ambitious about it like harrenWesterlands - House reyne - In a coat of gold or a coat of red a lion stil has clawsCrownlands - House Velaryon - they should finally get some respect after 300 years of being dragonstones bitchReach - House Hightower - Value knowledge and oldtowns prosperity over warring with othersStormlands - House swann - does what it says on the tin sigil-wiseDorne- House dayne- their sword is a fallen star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Why are the green-apple Fossoways the good ones?The head/heir/whatever of the red-apple Fossoways had said he'd fight to defend Dunk then reneged and fought for Aerion Brightflame's side. His cousin, who did fight for Dunk, split off and formed his own house, with the green apple.Also, I like how a lot of people want the southron Manderlys or even the Boltons(!) to rule the North, but not the always-loyal Mormonts. Is it because there are only women left?What does that have to do with anything? I think the Manderlys are a pretty complete package: loyal to the bone but in command of a port and a city, with financial security and a lot of muscle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 The North - Manderly is best choice but hel never be accepted to House Karstark it isThe Reach - HightowerThe Riverlands - MallisterThe Vale - RoyceThe Iron Islands - Harlaw of HarlawThe Westerlands - CrakehallThe Stormlands - SwannDorne - DayneBonus question: The Iron Throne-House Darry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 What does that have to do with anything? I think the Manderlys are a pretty complete package: loyal to the bone but in command of a port and a city, with financial security and a lot of muscle.Only problem being will they be accepted die to their faith in the Seven? I agree theyre the best of the bunch, but we know the Northerners are pretty hard core Old God followers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Turtle Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 The North: Bolton, or Manderly if they converted to old gods The Reach: Hightower or TarlyThe Riverlands: Mallister or MootonThe Vale: RoyceThe Iron Islands: HarlawThe Westerlands: CrakehallThe Stormlands: ?house TarthDorne: Dayne or Yronwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Euron Swagjoy Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 The North - House Bolton, House Karstark, or House Ryswell. Three strong, traditionally Northern housesThe Reach - House Florent - They are a wealthy House, with a claim through House GardenerThe Riverlands - House Mallister - A strong House that isn't hated by everyone *coughHouseFreycough*The Vale - House Royce - Probably the second strongest House in the Vale, and is well respectedThe Iron Islands - House Harlaw - Probably the richest and strongest House on the Iron IslandsThe Westerlands - House Marbrand - It seems like a strong House, but we don't know very much about the Houses of the WesterlandsThe Stormlands - House Caron or House Tarth - They both seem like strong Houses from the StormlandsDorne - House Yronwood - The second strongest House in DorneIron Throne - House Hightower - They are one of the strongest Houses in the Reach, and probably in Westeros (going by what the Houses have themselves, not what their vassals have), and they keep out of conflicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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