Full-Faced Braavosi Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Most people don't seem to think he was pushed but rather blow off by a storm. It was subtle enough. I really don't know anything about the Sorrowful Men other than that they apologize to their victims.But that's my point - pretty easy to fake his death. Wait for storm, wait for him doing something alone, push him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Faced Braavosi Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 If his goal is to subjugate Westeros with Dany's dragons, the egg could also prove useful in gaining an audience/negotiating with Dany. Much simpler than the kinslaying, kingsmoot, send Victarion plan. Who better to hatch a dragon egg than the mother of dragons?True, I'm sure it would intrigue her one way or the other, but somehow I don't think she is going to try to hatch any more dragons what with the 3-dragon prophecies and and histories and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Targaryen Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 But that's my point - pretty easy to fake his death. Wait for storm, wait for him doing something alone, push him.But where will be you waiting? And when the day comes, how will you get to the bridge without nobody seeing you?MAYBE he could have the deed done expending a lot less, but it would be too risky, if he got caught he could never again go back to the Iron Islands.And the idea of killing pushing off the bridge in a storm was probably from the FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmaoftheCanals Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Random question: I'm still on Clash of Kings, but I was reading a lot of forums that were saying that pretty much nothing happens for the next 3 books. Is this true? Should I keep reading up to Dance With Dragons? I am really enjoying the books so far, but don't see the point of reading if he doesn't progress the storyline too far :/So, as you may know aFfC and aDwD are split up geographically. So part of the characters' stories are put on hold for a whole book. You might want to read those two at the same time.http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/79847-a-good-way-of-reading-feastdance-as-one-super-book-chapter-title-spoilers-only/This link suggests an ordering... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanSnow Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Okay, this is a small question but I keep thinking of it (propably was already answered).So if Tysha wasn't actually a whore as Jaime tells Tyrion when releasing him from the cells, wouldn't Tyrion have known that when she was given to the Lannister guards? I mean, I just can't imagine her being used without saying or doing anything, or possibly enjoying it. So either she WAS a whore and Jaime kind of double-lied to Tyrion, or she wasn't originally but the money from Tywin was more important than the love for Tyrion, or she DID "fight back" or express discomfort, but Tyrion was just too shocked to realise it.Thanks for your answers :)Tysha was a poor girl who was thrown to the gaurds on a lord's orders. Too terrified and stunned to put up much of a fight, she was raped and paid well for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSnow House Stark Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Tysha was a poor girl who was thrown to the gaurds on a lord's orders. Too terrified and stunned to put up much of a fight, she was raped and paid well for it.LOL.... ok, I know it wasn't meant this way but... "she was raped, and paid well for it"!?!?!?!?? Seriously? So how well do you, as a guy, need to be paid to get anally gang raped by 50 men? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 This has probably been answered 100 times already but I couldn't find it. Who killed Joffrey? I seem to remember Tyrion claiming he did it, but I also think he may have just been saying it for effect. Thanks and I really do apologize if it is a redundant question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The guy from the Vale Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The Tyrells (Olenna got the poison from Sansa, Garlan most probably poisoned Joff, and Margaery must have been into the whole thing or she would have been in immense danger), together with Littlefinger. They used the crystals of the Strangler that were hidden in Sansa's hairnet, planted there by Baelish's pawn Dontos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Born Again Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 This has probably been answered 100 times already but I couldn't find it.Who killed Joffrey? I seem to remember Tyrion claiming he did it, but I also think he may have just been saying it for effect. Thanks and I really do apologize if it is a redundant question.Pretty sure it was Margery's grandmother 'the Queen of thorns" as it was her that 'fixed' Sansa's hair with the netting containing the tiny 'pearls' which I'm assuming were poisoinous - Sansa noticed that one had been ripped out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherbeef Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 was LF's original proposal to Ned of allowing Joffrey to succeed and Ned holding the power as Hand and Protector a legitimate one? or would he have betrayed Ned no matter what he decided? i thought i saw a thread title like this but couldn't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full-Faced Braavosi Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 was LF's original proposal to Ned of allowing Joffrey to succeed and Ned holding the power as Hand and Protector a legitimate one? or would he have betrayed Ned no matter what he decided? i thought i saw a thread title like this but couldn't find it.At some point, LF would do something devious. He's all about chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Wolfwalker Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 With my recent fascination of swords I noticed in the wiki that Dawn is catagorized as a greatsword. If that's the case does it debunk the theory of Ned not fighting with Ice and just using it for ceremony? From the ToJ scene Ned remembers Arthur Dayne fought with Dawn so why wouldn't Ned use Ice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therustman Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Do we know where Maester Aemon's dragon's egg is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrohsis Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Do we know where Maester Aemon's dragon's egg is?No, but now I really, really, really want toWas Rhaegar married to Elia before or after the Defiance of Duskendale? The Wiki says the Defiance happened around when the crown prince was seventeen, but I'm finding it hard to determine the year of their marriage. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Wolf Smith Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 With my recent fascination of swords I noticed in the wiki that Dawn is catagorized as a greatsword. If that's the case does it debunk the theory of Ned not fighting with Ice and just using it for ceremony? From the ToJ scene Ned remembers Arthur Dayne fought with Dawn so why wouldn't Ned use Ice?Ice was a Huge sword. IIRC its like 5' tall and 6"-8" wide. While that might be good in a battle, or to excute someone, Not really what you would want in a duelDo we know where Maester Aemon's dragon's egg is?No we don't really. Some theories go along the lines that it, and his siblings eggs were the ones given to Dany. There is not proof other then the color of said eggs.Was Rhaegar married to Elia before or after the Defiance of Duskendale? The Wiki says the Defiance happened around when the crown prince was seventeen, but I'm finding it hard to determine the year of their marriage. Thoughts?Steffon Baratheon died in 278 AL while looking for a bride for Rheagar. DoD happen in 276 AL. So it was after 278 AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon-Pale Maiden Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 My small question:Is Ser Endrew Tarth, who we meet in GoT when he replaces Thorne who goes south with the wight's hand, related to Brienne? I assume her last name is Tarth. If so, I wonder how close in relation? An uncle maybe? A Cousin? If so, it's interesting that she wouldn't try to send a raven to her kin on the wall to determine if Sansa chose to go to the wall where Jon is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Wolfwalker Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 Ice was a Huge sword. IIRC its like 5' tall and 6"-8" wide. While that might be good in a battle, or to excute someone, Not really what you would want in a duelDawn and Ice both are greatswords not longswords or bastard swords. Arthur fights with Dawn at the ToJ as seen by Ned's dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 My small question:Is Ser Endrew Tarth, who we meet in GoT when he replaces Thorne who goes south with the wight's hand, related to Brienne? I assume her last name is Tarth. If so, I wonder how close in relation? An uncle maybe? A Cousin? If so, it's interesting that she wouldn't try to send a raven to her kin on the wall to determine if Sansa chose to go to the wall where Jon is?We don't know what relation he is to Brienne but I think it's safe to say that he is a relation. He's also dead at the moment, so Brienne wouldn't really be getting in touch with him in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon-Pale Maiden Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 We don't know what relation he is to Brienne but I think it's safe to say that he is a relation. He's also dead at the moment, so Brienne wouldn't really be getting in touch with him in any case.Thank you. I hadn't realized he was dead; although so many brothers died at the FotFM, that it makes sense. I don't remember him being around later in the series. The name just stuck out suddenly as I was doing my re-re-re-reread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nozlym Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 does anyone know any info about Quickfinger like as to how he stole the dragon eggs? How he was caught? What happened to the eggs and where did he steal them from? Was he returning them to Daemon or someone else?Just his little mention in The Sworn Sword peeked my interest and was wondering if anyone knew of anything about it from a GRRM Q&A or something.I did see that someone mentioned it awhile back and George replied with a keep reading. So ya was just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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