Kobayashi Maru Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Plane, Trains and Automobiles, you mean?probably. I don't know the original name of the movie I translated it from my language literally :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 DP,As to the dead mom hypothesis I'm odd in that I like bittersweet endings. They seem more true to life to me that pure happy endings. Finding someone you genuinely love means that eventually, one of you, is more than likely going to have to suffer through the death of the other. Those are the cards we're dealt and we all have to play them. Happiness without pain is unrecognizable. You need one to understand and appriciate the other."Sir Teddy Mcslowsby". I like it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 DP,As to the dead mom hypothesis I'm odd in that I like bittersweet endings. They seem more true to life to me that pure happy endings. Finding someone you genuinely love means that eventually, one of you, is more than likely going to have to suffer through the death of the other. Those are the cards we're dealt and we all have to play them. Happiness without pain is unrecognizable. You need one to understand and appriciate the other.That's beautiful SSAE but I don't think this is that kind of show :dunno: this one is going for the sweet sweet ending imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I think there would be a riot, or at least a sternly worded internet forum posting, if the show suddenly changed tone and went morose. Eight years of build up is NOT building to that.I'm thinking of the crappy endings to Lost and BSG; crappy though they were, they didn't change tones. I can't think of any show that has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 KM, SC,Marshall's dad dieing was happy go lucky? Marshall and Lilly breaking up as Ted hooked up with Robin? There's plenty of room for happy and funny even if the Mother has passed. The point would be that she and Ted loved each other and their kids for as long as they were together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Was any of that the ending?It's not Breaking Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 SC,No, it wasn't but himym has never shyed away from heartache. It has built upon it in very interesting ways. I think we've been given hints about the mother's "current" stauts all along. Ted's stoned and random "Where's my wife" that remains unexplained in a flashforward from early in the show. I think the bittersweet ending has been hinted at all along and it makes Ted's love for the mother all the more poingant if their time together is more limited than they expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drawkcabi Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Ya know, Scot's lawyered me. I'm with him now, at least to the point of thinking that the mother dying/being dead is about a 50/50 chance of how the show ends, where before I was at 0 chance of that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 The core of the show isn't heartache though. Ted stoned not knowing where is his wife is consistent with Ted being stoned. Also, first episode, the son asks "Are we in trouble?" before sitting down to hear Bob Saget tell them a story. Not "are you okay?" or "Why are you so chipper when Mom is dead?? Dad I hate you!!!"And there is heartache in every single romance story; most of them don't end that way though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 SC,Respectfully, all of them end with heartache and loss for someone. All of them. The pain then is part of the happiness you had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 We don't see people's whole lives in every story. Yes, everyone eventually dies. So? Not every story is about that. Otherwise every single story would be the same, and clearly they are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 SC,Let me try a different tack. Would Marshall's story have been better if his father had not died? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 What is Marshall's story, and how is it relevant to Ted's? Marshall's father's death didn't happen in episode one season one, or continue throughout eight seasons. It's one event among thousands, and it happened randomly, because the show is about the random events in people lives that add up and shape it and give meaning, patterns, and seem like destiny. Ted could have met the mother a number of times. Ted likes to believe in destiny. Is it randomness or destiny that he meets the mother? That's the story and it's told in EVERY SINGLE EPISODE. Your theory is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 SC,Yes, and part of the reason why Ted has felt the need to tell this story to his kids is because he's dealing with the grief of losing her. I do not believe showing them having a loving marriage and then Ted and his friends dealing with losing her would cheapen the show at all. As they dealt well with Marshall's father's death and Marshall's anger, bitterness, and ultimate acceptance of his loss so the same would be true of dealing with Ted's love and grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Ser S see what you're saying but it's just not it. It would be as if you'd predict at the end of Two Towers it's gonna end with Frodo dying to save them all. yeah it was believable but it just wasn't that kind of story/book/ending the whole series was striving to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 KM,I do see where y'all are coming from but I disagree. This has never been about storybook endings. It's about Ted learning that life, and all that is good in it, is not merely a story. It's a process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 KM,I do see where y'all are coming from but I disagree. This has never been about storybook endings. It's about Ted learning that life, and all that is good in it, is not merely a story. It's a process.See how you said "life and all that's good in it"and not life and death of the loved one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 KM,Okay, life and death of a loved one are not a story. They are a process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 KM,Okay, life and death of a loved one are not a story. They are a process. :lol: no going back now Ser S you already outed yourself as hopeless romantic... there's no going back now. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I've always been a hopeless romantic. I see dealing with the grief will all experience as part of the romance. How can it not be.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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