Dany Girl Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 "I'm not ashamed of loving you, only of the things I've done to hide it. That boy at Winterfell . . ."even that reads to me as only remorse for how it made her feel, or what it's done to him, not genuine regret for hurting a helpless child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiftraven Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Lysa.Lied and then stood by while her family and her ancestral House were getting destroyed.Family, Duty, Honor my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Arya's Song Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I will never ever like these characters no matter what they do but I do enjoy reading about them and hoping they get their due in the next two books. Roose B, Ramsey S, Littlefinger, Walder Frey, Gregor Clegane, Qyburn, Cersei, Selyse, Melisandre, Bowen Marsh, Wick, Alliser Thorne, and Randyll Tarly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zell Holland Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Daario Naharis, Alliser Thorne, Little Walder, Qyburn, Gregor Clegane/unGregor, Tywin Lannister, Ramsay Snow, Lysa Tully, Joffrey Baratheon, most of the Sandsnakes for some reason, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Deschain of Gilead Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Balon GreyjoyLysa TullyAny of the Florents, they get on my nerves an I dont know why.Stannis' wife. Sylese, or whatever she's called.The Kindly ManAny Maester except Luwin. Especially Pycell.Don't trust the bastards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the Road Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Haha. Why do so many hate Penny?Is it just because she's a bit too... 'cutesy'?A mixture of how infuriatingly innocent she is, and the awful fear that GRRM will have Tyrion and Penny enter into a romantic relationship. I also, when first reading it, feared that Penny could be Tyrion's daughter with Tysha, both of which would be utterly dreadful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zartinem Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Sansa. I've tried to feel sorry for her, but I guess my heart is just a big black icicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvo Attano Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Dany.... *prepares for the inevitable shitstorm of people defending her* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wolves Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 even that reads to me as only remorse for how it made her feel, or what it's done to him, not genuine regret for hurting a helpless child.And that's the only time he expresses anything symboling regret. We had multiple Jamie chapters since Storm and he haven't thought on Bran once. This man tried to murder a helpless child but ends up crippling him and he doesn't think about what he's done besides that one moment. That is not remorse or regret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordStoneheart Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I think dear Lord Randyll needs his own thread... His mentions have been interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Fool Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I was just gonna say Ramsay Snow, but all the Randy Tarly defenders remind me that ole Randy is a terrible person as well.Oh yeah, and Walder Frey, heh.The Penny hate is surprising. She's done absolutely nothing wrong. She's just a bit irritatingly naive, and that only because we only see her through the cynical and largely insane eyes of Tyrion, who probably also hates kittens too by this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Bear so Fair Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Sansa and anyone from House Tyrell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bastard of Summer Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Sansa-I have not liked her since she first appeared on page. My loathing of her only increased as the story went on. I don't like her on a personal level or as a character.Cat- same as her daughterThe usual suspects-The ones who are down right evil Ramsey, Gregor etc.......no need to spend time on themAsha- She just annoys the bejesus out of meArienne- she AshaSer Barry- Grow a pair alreadyJorah- see Ser BarryThe Tullys- Yeah I just don't like them not even a little bit.Maesters-Sneaky bastards.....WTF are you up to! Tell me now!!!Tywin, Cersei, Shae,-Just ughh. Cersei is entertaining but man I'd like to punch her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angels' Prophet Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 And that's the only time he expresses anything symboling regret. We had multiple Jamie chapters since Storm and he haven't thought on Bran once. This man tried to murder a helpless child but ends up crippling him and he doesn't think about what he's done besides that one moment.That is not remorse or regretIn ASoS, Jaime has much bigger things on his mind (to him) than Bran. His hand, Brienne, being captured, etc, etc. In AFFC, he has learned that Cersei is a liar, and half-mad with paranoia. He doesn't have time to think about a boy he crippled. Another point is that Jaime believes Bran to be dead, but he never thinks "Good, now our secret won't get out" or "The spy had what was coming to him" or anything of the like.Jaime has a different set of morals than most do. He believes his crippling of Bran was justified, so what is the point of feeling regret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_of_House_Taylor Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Cat! I'm sure GRRM intended her to be a sympathetic character, but I can't stand the witch. PS I'm new here and would just like to say this fan site is amazingly dedicated and you are all ridiculously intelligent. Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Beyond the Wall Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Stannis---blah! He is so regrettable. But a great, and necessary addition to the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Janos Slynt and his lap-dog Alliser Thorne, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Man Has Said Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 There are so many utterly vile characters in these books! GRRM does love his over-the-top villainy.Joffrey and Tywin are dead, along with Gregor, Vargo Hoat, Rorge and Biter, Janos Slynt, half a dozen Freys I hated, Polliver, The Tickler, Shagwell, Pyg, Timeon, Septon Utt, Balon Greyjoy, etc., etc. ..they're never going to redeem themselves posthumously, so they missed that boat.. ..and north of the Wall, I would include Rattleshirt, Varamyr, Orell and Varma Dogshead in the same category. And I shouldn't forget Lysa Arryn either, she was a piece of work. Of people who are still alive and at large, Qyburn and Ramsay Snow/Bolton top my list. People who torture can't be tolerated, it's more heinous than murder IMO. I'll presume that Roose Bolton is another, but he keeps it on the down-low. (even if he's not, I'll never like him.)Cersei, Amory Lorch, Meryn Trant, Boros Blount, the Kettleblacks - in fact most of the dishonorable servants of House Lannister. Especially the crews sent out by Tywin to scourge the Riverlands. irredeemable, all of them. Urswyck, Septon Utt, etc.I doubt that I'll ever warm to Pyat Pree, or view Aeron Damphair favourably, nor am I fond of Euron Crowseye. And yeah, as others have said, Sweetrobin really gets on my nerves the little git.Littlefinger almost redeemed himself when he threw Lysa out the Moon Door, but nah.. ..what he has done so far, he'd have to single-handedly kill the Great Other with his mockingbird pin to atone for.The only characters who I can think of as being on their way to redemption are Jaime and The Hound. Even so, neither of them are quite there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusFTW Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 The Westerling lords wife, Sybelle? She betrayed her daughter and whole family for power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon of the Dead Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 - Roose- Ramsey- The Sandsnakes (except Sarella)- Darkstar- Lady Stoneheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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