Tommen Beetsbane Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 did the old gods send the direwolves,in an attempt to save TKOTN to help in the fight against the others,or did BR send them to protect bran? its quite a stretch to believe BR found a direwolf preggos with 5 reg wolves and an albino,and somehow get her past the wall,and somehow get her close enough to the starks with a horn in her neck but none of the other religions seem real,other than possible the drowned god.Thoughts? Ideas? Predictions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 As far as I understand it, the Old Gods have no power at all. It is possible that Bloodraven, a greenseer, warged the direwolf to make it go close to Winterfell but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Wolf Smith Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Or it could have been the WW/Cold Gods that sent them or the 3EC. I do believe someone/something sent them. ETA: it is likely that Gared brought her south w/ him, but still begs the question did the WW tell him to take it south? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I think they were sent because of Bran, thats why the moment was told through his POV.He is the chosen greenseer, and as a result his siblings got some too.The old gods don't exist so I doubt they sent them, however someone probably sent them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 ETA: it is likely that Gared brought her south w/ him, but still begs the question did the WW tell him to take it south?Er...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I think they were sent because of Bran, thats why the moment was told through his POV.He is the chosen greenseer, and as a result his siblings got some too.The old gods don't exist so I doubt they sent them, however someone probably sent them.They do exist, but they are not true gods. They are the spirits of deceased greenseers (or maybe all Children of the Forest :dunno:) that live on in the weirnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria Stone Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Probably something to do with the children of the florest and greenseers. However, doubt all the five direwolves have a common specif mission.By the way, as far as I know, the Drowned God has no power at all.... The only true demonstration of godly power came from the R'hllor, with a little help of Red Priest magic on the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 They do exist, but they are not true gods. They are the spirits of deceased greenseers (or maybe all Children of the Forest :dunno:) that live on in the weirnet. Yea thats what I meant but I felt lazy to write it, so probably Leaf and co. must have sent them, im iffy on BR as I think the CotF are actually controlling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Probably something to do with the children of the florest and greenseers. However, doubt all the five direwolves have a common specif mission.By the way, as far as I know, the Drowned God has no power at all.... The only true demonstration of godly power came from the R'hllor, with a little help of Red Priest magic on the side.Or maybe fire magic is just a thing and the so-called Red Priests assumed they were blessed by a god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommen Beetsbane Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Probably something to do with the children of the florest and greenseers. However, doubt all the five direwolves have a common specif mission. By the way, as far as I know, the Drowned God has no power at all.... The only true demonstration of godly power came from the R'hllor, with a little help of Red Priest magic on the side. patchface? what has R'hllor done? using the stannis' blood to kill the pretenders? mel saw that in the fires. shadow baby? she's using king's blood. thats why she tells stannis they cant have anymore,she's draining him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommen Beetsbane Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 They are the spirits of deceased greenseers that live on in the weirnet. that makes sense,but where in the book does it make you say that? i know BR is like getting eaten by a tree but i just assumed that was the seat of the greenseer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 that makes sense,but where in the book does it make you say that? i know BR is like getting eaten by a tree but i just assumed that was the seat of the greenseer Leaf explains it in Bran III DWD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 that makes sense,but where in the book does it make you say that? i know BR is like getting eaten by a tree but i just assumed that was the seat of the greenseerIt's in ADwD and I'll find a quote tomorrow, but it says so on the wiki as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Broke Howard Hughes Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 A gift, omen, and request for the Starks to return to the old ways all wrapped up in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria Stone Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Or maybe fire magic is just a thing and the so-called Red Priests assumed they were blessed by a god. True enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymeria Stone Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 patchface? what has R'hllor done? using the stannis' blood to kill the pretenders? mel saw that in the fires. shadow baby? she's using king's blood. thats why she tells stannis they cant have anymore,she's draining him What? Edit: I was dumb and quoted the wrong post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommen Beetsbane Posted October 27, 2013 Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 It's in ADwD and I'll find a quote tomorrow, but it says so on the wiki as well. it doesnt say that on the wiki..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeaselPie Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 No. GRRM said that the first few paragraphs he wrote in the series were about a boy watching a beheading then finding the direwolf puppies. I don't think anyone sent them but GRRM. But I do find it kind of weird that no one else in the series has ever seen a direwolf before.... It's almost like direwolves were as rare as dragons, but people don't seem to be making a freak-out fuss about them as much as they do about dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 it doesnt say that on the wiki....."The children of the forest believe that the weirwood trees were the gods and when they die they become part of the godhood." Close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffinpoodle Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 No. GRRM said that the first few paragraphs he wrote in the series were about a boy watching a beheading then finding the direwolf puppies. I don't think anyone sent them but GRRM. But I do find it kind of weird that no one else in the series has ever seen a direwolf before.... It's almost like direwolves were as rare as dragons, but people don't seem to be making a freak-out fuss about them as much as they do about dragons. Sorry but you realise what a silly argument that is right? Just "it happened because GRRM said so"? You could literally say that about any and ever event in the books ever. The direwolves coming to the Starks is a pretty big event, and considering the role the direwolves play in their respective Starks' lives, there must be a good reason it happened. Otherwise it's deus ex machina which is frankly beneath GRRM. The reason is not "GRRM sent them", because from within the world of ASOIAF, GRRM doesn't exist. Unless he pulls a Hussie on us which I think is pretty unlikely. :P Everything in the story is there because he put it there, but he also has to put in an in-universe origin/cause for everything or nothing is going to make sense. On a separate note, I wouldn't say direwolves were as rare as dragons. There had been no dragons for thousands of years, whereas direwolves are just endangered and you wouldn't expect to see any south of the Wall. There are those who believed that direwolves were extinct or were a mythical construct, of course, but that evidently wasn't true. The truly unusual part in this scenario is seeing direwolves south of the Wall, and serendipitously having there be one for each Stark kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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