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Who was the best king?


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#1 Waylin Stark

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:12 PM

Who was the best king until now?

 

My pick - Jaehaerys the Conciliator. AKA the Old King.

 

  1. He quelled the Faith Militant Uprising after the previous king, Maegor the Cruel killed thousands of them and made the situation nearly impossible to settle.
  2. At the same time he took away their power and their ability to conduct trials.
  3. He abolished the First Night.
  4. Built the Kingsroad.
  5. Brokered peace between the Blackwoods and the Brackens for 50 years.
  6. Ruled for 50 prosperous years in which there were no rebellions.

 

I doubt any other king has done half as good.

 



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:30 PM

Joffrey...... Behold the King.... The King of Kings!



#3 Waylin Stark

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:31 PM

Joffrey...... Behold the King.... The King of Kings!

 

Yeah, I was expecting troll answers like Joffrey, Maegor and Aegon IV.



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:31 PM

1) Jaeherys I
2) Daeron II
3) Viserys II (his own reign wasn't very impressive, but he ruled as Hand when his nephews Daeron I and Baelor I were indulging in their follies)
4) Aegon I
5) Aegon V
6) Maekar I
7) Aegon III
8) Jaeherys II
9) Aerys I
10) Baelor I
11) Daeron I
11) Viserys I
12) Aenys I
13) Aegon II
14) Maegor I
15) Aerys II
16) Aegon IV

That's how I would rank them. The Targs weren't lucky when it came to succesion. We know at least three crown princes who would have made great Kings, but died ffrey there time: Baelor Breakspear (the greatest Targaryen of them all), Jacerys Velarion (or was itbhis brother? I don't remember. Rhaenyra's eldest) and Rhaegar Targaryen. Then there are two Crownprince(ss) who would have been adequate but went nuts because of circumstances beyond their control (Viserys and Rhaenyra). And there are numerous cases where the second son proves to have more brains than the elder and would therefore make for a better King:Daemon Targaryen beats Viserys I, Aemon 'the dragonknight' Targaryen beats Aegon IV, Viserys II beats Aegon III

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:42 PM

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Wow, impressive reply.

I agree with most of your order. 



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:45 PM

Haha, sorry couldn't resist.

 

Agree with the Op & also think Torrhen The King who Knelt was a good king. He may have appeared weak, but saved thousands.



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:47 PM

Haha, sorry couldn't resist.

 

Agree with the Op & also think Torrhen The King who Knelt was a good king. He may have appeared weak, but saved thousands.

 

That's a good pick.

I always saw him as a man who put the safety of his men before his pride as a Northern King.



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:52 PM

 
That's a good pick.
I always saw him as a man who put the safety of his men before his pride as a Northern King.

Yeah, bending the knee must have been humiliating, especially if the Targs were their sleezy Valyrian selves and laughed when he kneeled.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 04:56 PM

If we're adding none Targs into the mix I would throw Queen Nymeria in there as well. She managed to unite the remnants of her people, sail them across the narrow Sea out of Valyria's reach (logistical nightmare) and showed that she had a keen political mind by giving up her ships, marrying Mors Martell and conquering Dorne.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:12 PM

Aegon Targaryen III



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:12 PM

Jaehaerys l and Good Queen Alysanne are the best rulers Westeros ever had.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:22 PM

1) Jaeherys I
2) Daeron II
3) Viserys II (his own reign wasn't very impressive, but he ruled as Hand when his nephews Daeron I and Baelor I were indulging in their follies)
4) Aegon I
5) Aegon V
6) Maekar I
7) Aegon III
8) Jaeherys II
9) Aerys I
10) Baelor I
11) Daeron I
11) Viserys I
12) Aenys I
13) Aegon II
14) Maegor I
15) Aerys II
16) Aegon IV

That's how I would rank them. The Targs weren't lucky when it came to succesion. We know at least three crown princes who would have made great Kings, but died ffrey there time: Baelor Breakspear (the greatest Targaryen of them all), Jacerys Velarion (or was itbhis brother? I don't remember. Rhaenyra's eldest) and Rhaegar Targaryen. Then there are two Crownprince(ss) who would have been adequate but went nuts because of circumstances beyond their control (Viserys and Rhaenyra). And there are numerous cases where the second son proves to have more brains than the elder and would therefore make for a better King:Daemon Targaryen beats Viserys I, Aemon 'the dragonknight' Targaryen beats Aegon IV, Viserys II beats Aegon III

Pretty much this. I might swap a few around (Viserys II would.be 2nd for me and Aegon II last - his entire reign was engulfed in War that he failed to bring an end to with decisive victory or negotiation) but I largely agree. The quiet reigns are the best.
Sidenote: we need a Greatest Queens/Noble Ladies thread next. Some of the women behind the men are equally as great

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:35 PM

Jaherys I, Aegon I, Daeron I, Viserys II, Aegon III, Aegon V, Maekar, Nymeria, Torrhen, Harwin Hoare, Loren Lannister, Sharra Arryn, Mariyah Martel. Take your pick.



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:40 PM

1) Jaeherys I
2) Daeron II
3) Viserys II
4) Aegon I
5) Maekar I
6) Jaeherys II
7) Aegon V (great king but married for love and let all three of his sons do the same making him loads of enemies as Barristan would have it and in the end his desire to bring dragons back got the better of him)
8) Aegon III
9) Aerys I
10) Robert I
11) Viserys I (both Robert and Viserys loved feasts and left the rule to their small council who turned out to be filled with snakes, but both had the realms best intentions at heart, I put Robert first cause while his personal vices were bigger, much bigger, he did put Ned and Barristan and Jon in the small council, Viserys' government enjoyed no equivalents)
12) Baelor I
13) Daeron I
14) Aenys I
15) Aegon II
16) Tommen I
17) Aegon IV (I'm putting Tommen and Aegon first because while clearly incompetent kings, at least they were funloving incompetent, rather then "kill, kill, kill" crazy, no one would prefer to have the below as kings)
18) Maegor I
19) Aerys II
20) Joffrey I

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:42 PM

King Stannis!



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:53 PM

Sidenote: we need a Greatest Queens/Noble Ladies thread next. Some of the women behind the men are equally as great


The problem with this is that we just don't know enough about most of them. Pretty much all would look .ike this:

1) Nymeria
2) Good Queen Alysanne
3) Elaene Targaryen

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 05:55 PM

DurararaFTW; You said Tommen and Aegon were fun loving. You mean Aegon IV right?

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 06:01 PM

the best king is a dead king,why? so we have a story, duh

 

no, but really, i throw my eggs in the Jaehaerys basket as well. His succesor wasnt that bad, iirc



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Posted 10 April 2014 - 06:04 PM

the best king is a dead king,why? so we have a story, duh
 
no, but really, i throw my eggs in the Jaehaerys basket as well. His succesor wasnt that bad, iirc


By his negligence the guy caused the Dance of Dragons. Jaeherys' succesor was very bad indeed.

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Posted 10 April 2014 - 06:08 PM

By his negligence the guy caused the Dance of Dragons. Jaeherys' succesor was very bad indeed.

:rolleyes: haha

 

his successor was Rhaenyra's father? oops, scratch that, then. My bad!