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#21 shiola

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:31 PM

I was so, so excited when they showed that chain. They have to use it to kill Shae. They zoomed in on it and everything and it just has to be important. I want him to kill Shae. Not because I want her dead or dislike her, but because it's very defining for Tyrion's future storyline.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 09:38 PM

but chekov's guns are used as red herring too...maybe D&D are in ramsay mode and trying to fuck with or minds

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 10:01 PM

Since the hand of the King badge seems to be a pin instead of a necklace, this golden chain will likely be what Tyrion uses to strangle her.


The hands badge of office is also a pin in the books,( Ned wears it) it is silver instead of bronze. I don't think that they had ever intended to leave out Tyrion and Shae's scene.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 11:42 PM

After every snit fit she has I keep waiting for Tyrion to finally slap her in the mouth (hey, it's fiction, I'm not a misogynist /smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />) and say "Yo, babe. Remember, you were nothing but a ho-ho when we first met and considering everything I've done for you perhaps you could, y'know, maybe stop bitching and shut the ---- up?"

I imagine he's saving all the animosity up knowing he's going to strangle her one day.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 11:57 PM

I am really wondering how they are going to handle Shae's betrayal or if it will really even happen in the show. Maybe she will be forced against her will or something. The book version of Shae is so terrible most of us were wishing Tyrion to cut her loose during Clash. If they go the same route with Shae turning on Tyrion then maybe making her a somewhat sympathetic character was a big mistake.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 12:05 AM

I'm very tied King's Landing in general on this show, I don't have much hope for the Red Viper vs Lurch, so I am ready for Tyrion just to leave, but I worry they'll expand Tyrion's adventures with the Cheesemonger given the choices they made this season.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:36 AM

I'm very tied King's Landing in general on this show, I don't have much hope for the Red Viper vs Lurch, so I am ready for Tyrion just to leave, but I worry they'll expand Tyrion's adventures with the Cheesemonger given the choices they made this season.

Oh if they continue the white washing he won't do things like threatening whores. He'll probably be super nice instead.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:58 AM

It's 'Chekhov' with an 'h'. Leaving it out changes his surname quite dramatically in Russian.


It's a good thing I'm not in Russia then

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:39 AM

- that's 100% guaranteed to be the chain used to kill her.

- they better make Tyrion murder her same as in the books. enough white-washing of his character. we get it, everyone's fav character is Tyrion. But sorry, he murders a ho because she was a ho.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:47 AM

but chekov's guns are used as red herring too...maybe D&D are in ramsay mode and trying to fuck with or minds

It's only a red herring if there is a way we can suspect it'll be used for what it's going to be used.
At this point, no one has any idea Tyrion is going to strangle Shae, so it can't really be a red herring.
It could be a red-herring for book readers, but that'd a be a little dumb.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 09:57 AM

It wouldn't surprise if, as someone already suggested, Tywin is Shae's murderer, and that's why Tyrion commits patricide. From the way they've sanitized Dinklage's character thus far, who couldn't see this one coming?

Saying that, I thought Ros would end up on the Iron Throne and they quite literally put that theory to bed.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 10:58 AM

It's a good thing I'm not in Russia then


Haha I know this is really pedantic, but Chekhov is the writer whose name means roughly 'Czech'.

Chekov is the guy from Star Trek! His name translates as 'Cheque/Check'. Potentially a big difference!

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:12 AM

It wouldn't surprise if, as someone already suggested, Tywin is Shae's murderer, and that's why Tyrion commits patricide. From the way they've sanitized Dinklage's character thus far, who couldn't see this one coming?

stop. If that happens, I quit. It would completely ruin one of the THE main characters of the series.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:17 AM

I hope this chain replaces the golden chain of the hand. Tyrion has to kill Shae, they simply can not white-wash him any further, it is just too ridiculous.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:19 AM

I hope this chain replaces the golden chain of the hand. Tyrion has to kill Shae, they simply can not white-wash him any further, it is just too ridiculous.


oh they can. Everyone loves Tyrion!! He would totally like, never do something bad like that!!!!

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:22 AM

I just remembered, didn't Tyrion have the Hand Chain in the Blackwater episode?

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:43 AM

oh they can. Everyone loves Tyrion!! He would totally like, never do something bad like that!!!!

As horrible as some of this actions are, I NEED HIM TO START ACTING LIKE THE CRUEL, NASTY BITTER MAN THAT HE OFTEN IS.

YES, he does some ''nice'' things but Tyrion is NOT a nice or GOOD man. I need them to stop this white washing because I'm afraid I'll be disgusted with the show if they white wash him any further and he doesn't end up killing shae, and tywin kills shae and tyrion is the doomed hero who kills his father in revenge for his lost love.

They also won't have the scene where he rapes a sex slave in the novels, they didn't have bard soup did they? they didnt have antler men they didnt have the forced marriage of sansa on the wedding day, in stead NICE TYRION TELLS HER
NICE TYRION OBJECTS AND SAYS ITS NOT FAIR ON POOR SANSA


oh my god, what theyve done to this character PISSES. ME. OFF.

Edited by Theda Baratheon, 14 May 2013 - 11:43 AM.


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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:11 PM

whats with the chekov references?

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:16 PM

whats with the chekov references?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chekhov's_gun

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The chain foreshadowing

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 02:20 PM

It wouldn't surprise if, as someone already suggested, Tywin is Shae's murderer, and that's why Tyrion commits patricide. From the way they've sanitized Dinklage's character thus far, who couldn't see this one coming?


oh....god....no....