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I dont understand why we keep having this argument when Fire and Blood exists. Fire and Blood specifically states that Aegon III is king because he is Rhaenyra's heir, not because he is male.

The conflict could be the assumption that Corlys = Otto. Its simple and actually works.

Again, the color of dresses at a tourney/feast dont dictate not liking each other, its the origins of the name. You are conflating 2 things. All your quotes, and even your explanation include the children being born and used as pawns, the antagonist of the main series is routinely referred to as "Bastard", Ned Stark's bastard," Bastard of Winterfell". You believe her calling them half siblings matter, I believe its literally a throw away line of a private conversation no one could have possible heard in the context of a story where calling someone a half sibling is normal and therefore, meant by the author as a confirmation of their own bias(author being the Maester) You mean letters that no Westerosi maester could have possibly been reading ?????? The character would be sexist, not GRRM. But again, your splitting hairs. weight =/= beauty, was my point. We never disagreed on the line, but rather what it means. My argument is that the character equates weight to beauty , where as you think the line is separate and that she is some simply got ugly as she had children. Even your unreliable narrator of Mushroom mentions weight as the standard for beauty and not looks. No, your argument was Rhaenyra's "infidelity" and how it was caused by Laenor. it wasnt. she would have slept around even if she had 8 kids and all of them looked like Laenor. He could have had sex with her every night and she would have slept around. In short, Laenor's sexuality isnt the problem, Rhaenyra simply wants someone else. The show specifically leads us to believe that her and Harwin had been together since the wedding. No, this is like saying in a society that allows slavery, the abolitionist isnt the better person than the slave own. You can indeed still contrast people in a society that overwhelmingly supports something. So in short, the majority can be deemed bad and it can then be placed on your moral character.

sure it does, homophobia being common doesnt make it ok.

Yes, i would assume all apologies after your child lost an eye , would be fake , and that incident took place 14 years into Alicents marriage No, that is where we are told the names "Blacks" and "Greens" come from. No where in the book are they said to hate each other there. Its clear thats a retroactive title. She never says that, she only says they are to blame. Aegon II however in the very next sentence calls for Rhaenyra's head along with her childrens and Daemon's. You have a right to that opinion. But its just that. an opinion. That wasnt the point there. You claimed Rhaenyra's children dont fight and are perfect. they clearly do. No, he said she gained weight, whether you find a 150 to 200 pound women attractive (based on illustrations of her) is entirely up to the reader. You are simply arguing that it was Rhaenyra who made the call instead of Daemon, got it. The show says they had sex, you can assume ejaculation, there is no reason not to. As I and others have pointed out when this was discussed weeks ago, gay men can achieve orgasms with women, its not that hard(speaking from personal experience)

Thanks for that info. I do find the green dragon better though. And you are correct, the titles of the 2 sides are applied retroactively I think the "discussion" is simply seeing Aegon act horribly You are right about Daella, idk what I was thinking, but we are never told that Lady Jeyne is Lord Rodriks grandchild. We simply assume

to be clear, because there is a weird debate in the fandom on this, gay men have sex with women all the time. Rhaenyra simply didnt get pregnant as a result of the sex.

What exactly do you think having Otto fired, or sleeping with Criston Cole are ????? Again, in the books, we arent told of a single instance of Rhaenerya and her Step mothing having a problem until near the start of the dance. Your assumption is that they simply left out those details, and you have a right to that belief, but that is your opinion, not fact. In the book, she literally says she will forgive her brothers and sisters and blames Otto and Alicent, so yes, she indeed does think of peace. in the book Its Daemon, Lord Celtigar and Rhaenys who mentions using the dragons, and Rhaenyra says no "war at what cost, to what end? My sons would be the ones riding those dragons mind you, and im not strong enough to fly yet... so it will be our 5 against their 4, and one of theirs will be Vhagar. " It is then Daemon who specifically says to find allies before they go to war. I have no idea how you came to this conclusion, there is a whole fist fight in Episode 8 Martin did none of those things. Again , thats you arguing head canon. Vaemond dies the exact same way in the book. She doesnt in the show either, You are completely misusing the word infidelity. i think you mean impotence. As both Rhaenyra and Laenor are guilty of infidelity, and no where in the show does Rhaenyra claim she wouldnt have slept with Harwin if she had been pregnant by Laenor(as we are specifically told they did have sex)

Yea, the book makes it seem like Cole switched sides by his choice, it just never says if that is by him being angry, or simply choosing Alicent

The problem with your argument is that all the same things happen in the book. So again, you are mad at GRRM's writing rather than any liberties the show writers took.

I mean, Dany never had all that much control over Drogon, he did his own thing, and the whole " a dragon is not a slave " thing.

I forgot to mention this 2 weeks ago, but this is the perfect time. When GOT Season 7 leaked almost 3 months before the premiere , we got the actual internal monologue /thoughts of the characters because it was written down(scene leaks were proven true, so I assume the internal stuff is true too). It said Tyrion was in love with Dany and so on and so forth. Well, because we now know the leaks for this season of HOTD were true, and that they filmed out of order and supposedly the inner working of the filming were leaked, do we believe the reddit thread ? That this is the original version of the script and that the rewrite was filmed and footage lost ? I tried to find the thread and cant, but it basically said when Viserys is dying, he thinks he is talking to Aemma about Baelon. And he basically repeats the "I saw our son wearing the conqueror's crown ....dragons roaring" line and that is why he is crowned the way he is. But that this was the second shoot after rewrites and the footage was lost and they couldnt film a 3rd time so they just left it in. That misunderstanding would make sense.

A green dragon makes more sense, does the book even explain why the dragon is golden(is it meant to represent Sunfyre ?) ????? I dont understand why keeping your original oath is seem as the surprising thing Rodrik's sons and Daella( Aemma's mother) are brothers and sister. Aemma would be their children's first cousin. Not aunt. Aemma would only be their aunt if she had a older brother, and as we know Daella died after the one child.

TV show fans =/= book fans. I think most people here are book fans and the above kind of thing just doesnt happen here(from what I have seen)

In Universe Book Knowledge: Rhaenyra should have the support of House Baratheon, House Stark, House Arryn, and of course House Velaryon. House Tully should have also been included in that belief, but Old Man Grover broke his vows. She also had numerous support throughout the Reach as well as the majority of the Crownlands. Rhaenys, we can believe, knew this, so why kill Aegon and be seen as a Kinslayer when your belief is basically that its the entire kingdom against the Hightowers and The Westerlands ???