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  1. The underground places and caves are important. The caves are the place where the CotF survived the last LN. Winterfell with it's crypts and hot water source is best suited to survive the next one. Possibly the crypts are also magically protected like BR cave. About the House of Undying. It has certainly a place somewhere in this Ice and Fire conflict. The house is dealing with undead, or sorcery delaying death by apparenly feeding on the living. I would say the type of necromancy that, according to the Yi Ti legends, brought the Long Night. The greenseers are also delaying death. But not by feeding on the living. By becoming "wood" and getting the lifespan of wood. Which may, or not, be OK for the Others. Probably OK as it seems an ability given by the Old Gods. Which I would suppose are also the gods of the Others. Or the Others are their "military force". Others, Faceless Men, Warlocks, Shadow binders, Red Priests, are all dealing with death. And their magic or worship or purpose may seem somewhat alike. But they could be the direst enemy, "competitors" for the same market. I would see the Faceless Men serving somewhat the Others (at least not opposing them and trying to shorten their coming). I would see the Warlocks, Shadow binders, Red Priests (and Euron) competitors using somewhat the same magic. The magic the Others come to prohibit.
  2. I think we can rename it now: "WOW in July 2020 seems ever less likely".
  3. Pale fire, like the drgons. These swords seem more like Berric swords or Lightbringer. Lightbringer was fiery hot in battle. Maybe someone could fire on Dawn. Maybe not. But dawn means light, not fire. Comparing Dawn and the swords of the Others:
  4. The Conquest: The Kings. Thought Aegon did right to get rid of Harren. He should have stopped there. The Dornish War: Dorne Aenys The Faith militant uprising: The Faith. Would not happen without the Targs. The Council of 101: Don't care The Dance: None The Second Dornish War: The Martells The Blackfyre Rebellion: The Targaryens Roberts Rebellion: Rebels War of the Five Kings: Stannis Mance's attack: Wildlings. No way they should stay north of the Wall War in the North, Stannis Slaver's Bay campaign: Dany, but she did it wrong Kingsmoot: Don't like any. The final kings: No king, Jon in a Lord Commander style, without crown.
  5. I believe the Yi Ti legends are the key to understand the LN and the Others. Why it came, then and now. And how it end. The Daynes and their sword is evidence there is more than a dumb maester would agree. But what we know is incomplete. Maybe false in some points. We lack also a timeline to connect the events of Essos and Westeros. I could believe the Fist Men came to Westeros because they were fleeing something from Essos. But I don't think they came with dragons and build the Hightower's base. Not even the Daynes. At some point, the dragons and the magic to produce fused stone in volume became available to the old Yi Ti empire. They build outposts in different places and expanded in Valyria which was bounty for their fire magic. But I don't think the black stone fallen from the sky is the Daynes's star. The Shadow Lands, the Ash river, the dead city of of Stygai are corrupted by something. I believe this is this back stone, fallen in the middle of the Shadow Lands. Which drove the Bloadstone Emperor to dark magics and the blood betrayal that finally angered the gods, or disrupted something, and called the Others and the LN. The fused stone seems very old. The 5 Forts were made of it in the young days of the empire. Maybe it was needing only Firewyrms and was OK. AFAIK, there is no tale of dragons in the old empire. The references for origin are the Shadow Lands and a tale (from Qarth) of dragons falling from a cracked moon. The moon could be a comet. And the fallen stone a piece of the comet. A stone, giving the magic to corrupt and hybrid life-being. Making dragons from firewyrms and wyverns may not be the worst. Or maybe, as they are things of magic. There was also this tiger-woman and the Deep Ones... The oily black stone, seems different of the fused stone. Less wholesome. It is found in the Seastone Chair of the Ironmen, Ashai, Yeen, and the Isle of Toads. I would guess they're also taints of the Shadow Lands. And related to the sea and the Deep Ones. Where is the Daynes's star, IDK. Bran sees a "curtain of light at the end of the world". Maybe that is where a star fell. The opposite of the Shadow, at the opposite of the world. Anyway, Dawn looks more like the swords of the Other than Valyrian Steel.
  6. So he would have broken a promise to Lyanna. He certainly protected Jon from Robert. Only other promise he would have broken, would be telling Jon who he is. How bad Ned may feel about it, it was the right thing for sending Jon on his path to the Old Gods and his destiny. IMO, would not call for the retribution of his gods. But promises. There was more than one. I think of another promise, one to Ashara Dayne.
  7. Interesting. Which oath was broken? Not the one to support Robert or his heir. IMO he lied to Robert, mainly to protect Cersei's children, even fucking Joffrey. The one to stay North and care for his people? Killing Lady, the creature of his gods?
  8. I also believe Bran will make the Old Gods and the CotF magic strong again. With weirwood all over Westeros again. He will be the eyes. But I don't think he will be the king, sitting and ruling, a figure people would believe in and follow. Kings are kingdoms are not something of the CotF, the Free Folk or the First Men. Clans with chieftains. People following leaders close to them. Referring to other renowned leaders, like Mance or the Stark at crisis time. But independent and free otherwise. Jon, the remaining Starks, other people having shown their colors during the LN will be these leaders. I don't think the Others will be defeated. They come IMO, as in the Yi Ti legends: because of the crimes and evils of men. And there has been plenty recently. I they were vanquished in battle, it would be the signal the shit can resume, worse than ever. Nowhere in the Last Hero legend, it is stated that the Others were defeated in battle. The men were defeated, this single hero the last hope. The only escape was in making peace with them. And Azor Ahai led the virtuous in battle. It is not said it was against the Others.
  9. Agree. We don't know exactly how Valyrian steel was made. But there seem to be deaths and dark secrets around it. It was so rare, the price to make one would be deterring. Anyway, the Valyrians were not shy of slavery and blood magic and sacrifices. Possibly, Likely. The CotF found a way to survive or live with the Others, or have them in rest. I suppose the Starks (and the survivors of the LN) will learn (again) how to live this way.
  10. Yeah. The sword gets a new name. Becomes the house's pride. Does as if it belonged to the house since the age of legends. And everyone forget it was taken from a common criminal.
  11. Do we know how the Mormonts, no wealthier than the Starks, got their sword? IIRC the Lannisters paid theirs in gold. And it was hugely expensive. IMO a few swords got scattered after the Doom. And pirates and whatever got them. At some point, probably after Aegon conquest, a Stark got the head and the sword of someone. Same for the Mormonts. That or GRRM doesn't care to explain how such number Valyrian swords, long and short, are found there and there.
  12. I don't believe one minute it's a question of money. It's doing the things he enjoys. And finishing ASoIaF has become extremely complex and difficult. But Yeah, ASoIaF without his end, is like LOTR without ROTK.
  13. Mostly a wild guess. There is something Lovecraft in GRRM's universe and ASoIaF. Worshipers of a stone/god fallen from the sky, creatures from the deeps of the sea, breeding with humans, necromancers... Some readers believe all this is garbage to populate the maps and ridicule maesters. But the Seastone Chair is made of the same Oily black stone than Asshai by the Shadow, Yeen or the Toad Stone. All near or connected to the sea. The places Euron would visit. There has been plenty of warmongers in Westeros. But those sitting the Seastone Chair had more than their share of it. As it seems. In all known Planetos, the places with the Oily stone are the worst. So I'm wondering if the ones living near the Seastone Chair are not suffering from its influence. Some readers also believe the gods do not exist. And every magic is done by powerful wizards. I don't think so. There are otherworldly creatures, the Others, the dragons. But are the dragons not hybrids of Firewyrms and natural Wyverns? And the mysterious Shadows of Asshai. Others are barely unnatural, like the CotF. As it seems, the humans have only very specific and limited powers by themselves. Granted either (or both) by blood shared with the CotF (or maybe dragons for the valyrian dragon lords) and excedingly rare talent. Mind transfer to other bodies and prophetic dreams. But everything big, like resurrection or death saving, healing is done by invoking the assistance of something supernatural. And this assistance is not cheap. So if Euron is that powerful, as I believe he is, he must have assistance from something. And these things seem to work more for themselves than for the invocator pleasure. So why I'm guessing Euron is either possessed by something, or is nothing but the slave of some power seeking dominance of the World. As in Lovecraft stories if I'm correct. The concept of possession is not foreign to ASoIaF. The skin changers, the wights. So it would not be out of style to have Euron possessed. The story could do without. Maybe Euron is just a fool. Or he could do a lot with luck and the little power he has. But the other question is: Where could he have learned so much by himself? Or why such wizard so powerful would care to teach him rather than crush him? How could he be threatened by puny Euron?
  14. I didn't say I didn't like Alayne chapters. I don't see where the Vale and Dorme are going. But I'm interested. Victarion, Barristan, Tyrion released chapters are excerpts, not full chapters. Victarion had a longer reading at Miscon 2012. I don't think the battles will have lengthy chapters. None had so far, the Blackwater (mostly 2 Davos and Tyrion chapters), the Wall, Robb conquest, the Riverlands rampage. GRRM is all in preparation and aftermath. I'm not a fan of battle packed books. For me AFFC and ADWD were as good, if not better, than the previous 3.
  15. Books 4 & 5 were moving characters, having them experience things that redefine them. Drawing the background of the Ice & Fire war. What would have been the five years gap. The pace should accelerate. Ok, not with Arianne or Sansa preview chapters (but they are old chapters). The Frosaken was different. Victarion too.
  16. Storylines can end abruptly. Ask, Ned, Robb, Tywin, even Joffrey. Their end was not rushed. It was great moments, logical. I think ASoIaF can end in two books.
  17. He doesn't want anyone to write in his universe. Or to finish the story for him. Game of Thrones author George R.R. Martin rules out sharing Westeros Whether he wants or not, there will be an end, if not by him. So if it happens, better he leaves as much material as possible. So it is not as HBO did it, but as he wanted it.
  18. Mereen/Dothraki sea I think Dany will be sent to Vaes Dothrak, to the dosh khaleen. Against her will. But somehow she will fulfill the "naked crones, kneeling shivering before her" vision. The Dothrakis only bow to force and promise of rampage. I don't think one dragon would be enough to cow them. Maybe the crones will acknowledge her as the Stallion. Or they will follow her on promise of Fire and Blood. Anyways, they will not follow her for freeing slaves and protecting the weak. I don't think she will return to slavers' Bay in time to win the battle. Barristan and Yunkai forces will mostly annihilate each other, helped by the Pale Mare. Victarion and Moqorro will bind the remaining dragon and finish the battle. With the sell swords left and the slavers defeated at Meereen, Volantis slaves will rebel and burn the city. Before or after Dany return to Meereen and the mercenaries join her forces. Between Ironborn and Volanteen, Dany will have enough ships to return to Westeros. Meereen and the Slaver Bay is decimated. No need either to stop at Volantis for a battle and conquest. The North Manderly will betray the Freys. And holes in the frozen lake. Stannis remaining forces will disguise as victorious Freys. Maybe with Stannis an apparent prisoner. Doing so, they will gain access inside Winterfell and surprise attack the Boltons not ready for battle. More or less the same trick Ramsay used to win Winterfell. Inside the "mummer show" will end. Many of the Northmen, Lady Dustin at their head will be revealed as part of the conspiracy. Ramsey will use the confusion to kill his father and flee. Davos will find Rickon at Skagos. With Benjen. Rescued and sent there by Coldhands and BR. Probably Benjen who collected Rickon at White Harbor. Rickon will become Lord of Winterfell. The Wall and beyond Jon Snow is dead and returned to life. Or not exactly life. I don't think Melisandre will do it. Anyway, something changed. I'm not sure he will be a POV and we will know what he is thinking. The Night Watch is ended and the Wall is in the hands of the Free Folk. Jon still leads them. But if he goes somewhere, it ill be North, to meet the Others or something that can help. The Vale Sansa will marry Harold. Not a happy marriage. Not sure he and Sweet Robin will live long. I don't think LF will see the end of the book either. Sansa would finally have the ruling of the Vale, as Ned's and Cat's daughter. In defiance of Cersei. Faegon Aegon is Illrio's son. But neither he nor Jon Con know it. After a quick and clean conquest of the Stormlands, he will have Dorne's support, thanks to Arianne and the Sand Snakes rushing Doran precautions. He will also gain the support of the Faith and everyone's discontent of Cersei. She will finally have Maergery's head. Tommen will be dead, poisoned by Varys. The Tyrell will have no other choice than siding with Faegon. I don't know how, but I believe Cersei will still hold KL at the end of the book, with Myrcella queen. She will hold it until Dany is there. Someway, Jon Con will also spread Gray Scale. Euron Euron is one big enemy. The other major player with BR. I believe in his far voyages he got possessed by an evil like there are in Asshai and beyond or Sothoryos. He is not the old Euron. Not to be confused with the other Greyjoys and ironborn losers. I believe he is playing another side than the Ice (Old Gods or the Others) and Fire (R'hllor, Shadows and Red Priests).
  19. Jon after. He can't be the same. Euron. What the Others want, will do.
  20. And to kill the "Stallion Who Mounts the World" before it started. Saving uncounted millions of lives.
  21. There yes, absolutely. He is the best swordsman, god of the battle field. Arrogant, everything, in this sphere where the better wins. No rule other than the sword during combat. Combat is where he is his own master, free. Where nothing else matter. But Cersei dominated sexually or otherwise? Never! IMO she plays a role. She is ashamed, maybe unconsciously, by her relationship with Jaime. So she imagines he controls her, force her. It's part of their lovegame. She plays the victim, to put the shame on him. But she could stop things anytime she want.
  22. Yes. Most people in GRRM story are not really bad. They turn bad because something happens to them. While other resist hardship. But I believe Cersei was born bad. Like a few others, Ramsay, Walder Frey ... in a weaker way. She was dominative, alpha Jaime was shaped in the underdog, the subservient. Strong only with his sword. Jaime was loving his sister, loving his little brother, despite his sister and father. Jaime is vulnerable to those he loves. I like him for that. And for "fuck my honor".
  23. Not a psychologist. Should ask Ramsay. But I think there are things about manipulating people, especially young children. Yes, pushing Bran was a violation of the Guest Right. I don't remember everything he did. But most were no worse than killing a ward if the father breaks his oath. Another one of my "unconventional". Oaths and honor are bad more often than not. You swear to something, believing it's something grand. And then you discover you've been cheated. You served the father who was OK, but the son is mad, or a monster. Or you discover the goal of your master is not yours. And because you or your ancestors bent the knee to save their skin and their people, you have to obey monsters. Oath = Slavery. Only slaves are bound for life and their children too. Or like Barristan, it gives you excuse to stand still while a man abuse his wife. Volunteer to be Aerys' slave. Jaime was one of the few who questioned it. He forsworn his honor to save innocents. Cat was one of the few to had it right with Brienne: I vow that you shall always have a place by my hearth and meat and mead at my table, and pledge to ask no service of you that might bring you into dishonor. I swear it by the old gods and the new. ... When the time comes, I will not hold you back.
  24. One point I believe I'm "unconventional" is in thinking Jaime is Cersei's victim. She dominated him. She schemed for him to be KG. She killed a girl who wanted to marry him. How many others did she deter? She ruined his life. "The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword". Tyrion was Tywin's killer because Tywin let, encouraged, his other children, even Joffrey, to abuse Tyrion. Jaime will also be the one swinging the sword for Cersei. The only thing changed is, he is no more doing Cersei's dirty work. Exactly
  25. There are quite a few of these unconventional opinions I'm sharing. Most important for me: The Others are demons, angels of Death. They will not be defeated in a great battle. They are invincible. Humankind may survive only by getting rid of its evils: greed, evil magic and worshiping of other gods like R'hllor and its creature like dragons and Shadows. Rhaegar was driven by his prophecy. BR was already in business and was watching, influencing Lyanna. R+L=J was as much hers and BR ,than Rhaegar's. The prophecies and gods are basements of ASoIaF. The conflict between Westeros great houses for the IT was just the last of the petty wars. The things that matter happen after.
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