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  1. Megorova

    Dany's three betrayals

    Treason for blood is Rhaego's kidnapping by his Dothraki-relatives, by his father's ex-ko Pono. Rhaego is Drogo's son and Pono is blood of Drogo's blood, so he took that "blood", the baby. Majority of readers think that Rhaego is dead, and that supposedly his life payd for one of Dany's dragons. I am absolutely sure that both of those assumptions are incorrect and that Rhaego is definitely alive. Just because majority think otherwise, doesn't mean that they are right. The treason for gold is Dany's second husband, Hizdahr, betraying/selling her to Yunkaii for their gold. Or the chief-traitor is Galazza Galare, the Green Grace, who seems to be the Harpy. The Sons of the Harpy is the slavers of Meereen, and her "daughters" are the Graces. So even if the nominal traitor is Hizdahr, nevertheless Galazza Galare was also taking part in that treason. The third traitor is either Tyrion or Barristan Selmy. Tyrion in the future can betray Dany for the love/acceptance/acknowledgement from his family. And concerning Barristan - I suspect that he is a dragonseed, furthermore a Blackfyre dragonseed. And because it seems that fAegon/Young Griff, who is the mummer's dragon, is a Blackfyre, and I don't think that he is Illyrio's child (that would have been too simple), which means that fAegon's father is someone else, so for now I think that fAegon's father is Barristan, who is a hidden Blackfyre (most likely he is a grandson of Aenys Blackfyre). My guess is that the mother is Lady Jeyne Swann, who is known to readers as septa Lemore. <- Those are my speculations and assumptions, not facts. Thus, if my theory about Barristan, Jeyne/Lemore and fAegon is correct, then in the future, when Barristan will meet Jeyne, and will find out that fAegon is his son, then it's likely that he will betray Dany, for the sake of his old love (Jeyne) or for his son (fAegon).
  2. Megorova

    The Blackfyre Rebeillion was a betrayal, not a rebellion

    I think that the real reason for the Blackfyre Rebellion is Duncan the Tall, who in my opinion is a bastard-son of princess Daenerys and Daemon Blackfyre. In 193 Duncan's master, Ser Arlan of Pennytree, had defeated the Bastard of Harrenhal in a melee during tournament held at King's Landing. I think that that tournament was part of Daeron's birthday festivities. My guess is that Duncan was conceived when Daenerys came to King's Landing to attend her brother's 40s birthday, and was reunited with Daemon for the first time since her wedding with Maron Martell. Could be that the chipped garnet that Ser Arlan had is a piece of Blackfyre sword. Garnet is a red stone and Blackfyre's pommel is also decorated with a red stone. Ser Quentyn Ball and his death (most likely he was killed either by one of Raven's Teeth or even by Bloodraven himself) has something to do with the reason why Daemon's little son ended up alone on a streets of King's Landing. Could be that before or in the span of the Blackfyre Rebellion little Duncan for some period of time was staying at Duskendale town or Dun Fort, which is a castle of House Darklyn who were Lords of Duskendale at that time. So Dunk's name is not his real name, it's just a fragment of what he remembers from his early childhood, it's the place where he was staying. Probably the reason why King Daeron ordered to arrest Daemon is because he found out about Daemon's affair with Daenerys and that they had a bastard-child. Or that child's existence wasn't a secret for King Daeron, and the reason why Daemon finally decided to rebell against his brother is because the King refused to legitimize Daemon's bastard-son.
  3. Megorova

    George Martin and scale

    I quoted various ranges, including that minimum set by Henri VIII, which is only 44 feet short of 700. In one of those links there's info on how far upwards the bow can shoot. Based on type of bow it's 1210.63 feet or 1541.99 feet. Both of those numbers is significally above the height of The Wall. For 1210.63 the mark of 700 feet is 57,8% of that distance, and for 1541.99 the top of The Wall will be on the mark of 45,39% of the total distance. Probably the further an arrow will fly the slower it will be and the lesser damage it can cause. Though if an arrow can fly upwards as high as 1200-1500 feet then it's very unlikely that on the height of merely 45-60% (700 feet) it will be already barely flying and won't be able to cause significant damage if it will hit something on that mark. Some info on force of arrow's impact and how it changes based on distance: https://www.goldtip.com/Resources/Calculators/FOC-Calculator/Calculator-Descriptions.aspx Bows that are <65 ft. lbs are used for hunting toughest game (cape buffalo, grizzly, musk ox, etc.). "Shooting a live animal in the woods is quite different than shooting a block of ballistics gel in a laboratory. In the field you'll encounter unpredictable and complex variables that limit any mathematical model to just a "best guess". If you consider that your arrow must arrive on target then pass through layers of hair, hide, muscles, bones (perhaps), and a host of other tissues..." In the link below there's a list of medieval bows and what was their draw force https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow#Surviving_bows_and_arrows "In 1980, before the finds from the Mary Rose, Robert E. Kaiser published a paper stating that there were five known surviving longbows:[1] The first bow comes from the Battle of Hedgeley Moor in 1464, during the Wars of the Roses. A family who lived at the castle since the battle had preserved it to modern times. It is 1.66 m (65 in) and a 270 N (60 lbf) draw force.[69] The second dates to the Battle of Flodden in 1513 ("a landmark in the history of archery, as the last battle on English soil to be fought with the longbow as the principal weapon..."[58]). It hung in the rafters at the headquarters of the Royal Scottish Archers in Edinburgh.[1] It has a draw force of 360 to 410 N (80 to 90 lbf). The third and fourth were recovered in 1836 by John Deane from the Mary Rose.[70] Both weapons are in the Tower of London Armoury and Horace Ford writing in 1887 estimated them to have a draw force of 280 to 320 N (65 to 70 lbf).[71] A modern replica made in the early 1970s of these bows has a draw force of 460 N (102 lbf).[72] The fifth surviving longbow comes from the armoury of the church in the village of Mendlesham in Suffolk, and is believed to date either from the period of Henry VIII or Queen Elizabeth I. The Mendlesham Bow is broken but has an estimated length of 1.73 to 1.75 m (68 to 69 in) and draw force of 350 N (80 lbf) " The force of arrow's impact (kinetic energy output) is based on the arrow's weight and speed. There's a formula in the link above. Here's some info "Arrow speed loss at distance" https://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=495633 they were using some special program for calculations (now that program is not available). Based on their data an arrow loses approximately 1 feet per second of its speed on every 10 yards of the distance it covered. "Running the numbers for my bow in On Target reveals the following for a 434 grain arrow (100 grain 3 blade broadhead): 0 yds = 283.61 FPS 10 yds = 282.75 20 yds = 281.89 30 yds = 281.03 40 yds = 280.18 50 yds = 279.33 With a 125 grain 2-blade broadhead (458 grain total weight) these are the numbers: 0 yds = 278.48 FPS 10 yds = 277.73 20 yds = 276.99 30 yds = 276.24 40 yds = 275.50 50 yds = 274.76 " The lighter arrow (434 grain) is losing 0,86 fps on every 10 yards, the heavier arrow (458 grain) is losing 0,75 fps (feet per second) on every 10 yards. So if the total distance is for example 240 yards/720 feet (like in one of examples from above with traditional bow) then the total loss of speed after this two kinds of arrows will cover all 240 yards will be for 434 grain arrow - 20.64 fps, it's starting speed was 283.61, and when it will hit a target at distance 240 yards it's speed at that time will be 262.97 fps; and for 458 grain arrow it will be 18 fps, starting speed 278.48 and the speed when it will hit a target will be 260.48 fps. When the arrows will cover distance of 720 feet the lighter one will become 7,27% slower, and the heavier arrow will become 6,46% slower. The force of arrow's impact = KE=(mv²)/450240 where m = mass of the arrow in grains and v = velocity of the arrow in fps. (434 * 283.61 * 283.61)/450240 = 77,53 ft-lbs <- this is the arrow's impact at the moment it was released from the bow, and 720 feet away from the bow it will be (434 * 262.97 * 262.97)/450240 = 66,65 ft-lbs. The speed loss was 7,27% and the lose of force of impact is 10,88 ft-lbs which is 14%. Thus after flying over 720 feet the force of arrow's impact still will be enough to cause damage/kill. In that link with formula there are types of bows and what's their hunting usage: 25-41 ft-lbs - Medium Game (deer, antelope, etc.), 42-65 ft. lbs - Large Game (elk, black bear, wild boar, etc.), > 65 ft. lbs - Toughest Game (cape buffalo, grizzly, musk ox, etc.). So theoretically from distance of 720 feet this kind of bow can kill elk, black bear, wild boar, because even after it will partially lose speed, it's force of impact will lower from the original 77,53 to 66,65, and to kill large game a 42-65 ft.lbs bow is enough. Thus there's no inconsistency in what GRRM wrote. Even an arrow shot upwards 700+feet (with medieval bow or crossbow) can kill, break bones, penetrate armour, etc.
  4. Megorova

    George Martin and scale

    https://outdoortroop.com/how-far-can-a-compound-bow-shoot/ "A compound bow can shoot an arrow over 1,000 feet, but the farthest recorded shot that actually hit a target is 930.04 feet. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_longbow#Range "The range of the medieval weapon is not accurately known, with much depending on both the power of the bow and the type of arrow. It has been suggested that a flight arrow of a professional archer of Edward III's time would reach 400 yd (370 m)[25] but the longest mark shot at on the London practice ground of Finsbury Fields in the 16th century was 345 yd (315 m).[26] In 1542, Henry VIII set a minimum practice range for adults using flight arrows of 220 yd (200 m); ranges below this had to be shot with heavy arrows.[27] Modern experiments broadly concur with these historical ranges. A 667 N (150 lbf) Mary Rose replica longbow was able to shoot a 53.6 g (1.89 oz) arrow 328 m (359 yd) and a 95.9 g (3.38 oz) a distance of 249.9 m (273.3 yd).[28] In 2012, Joe Gibbs shot a 2.25 oz (64 g) livery arrow 292 yd (267 m) with a 170 lbf yew bow." 315 meters is 1033.46 feet, 200 meters is 656.168 feet, 328 meters is 1076.12 feet. https://traditionalarcheryguide.com/how-far-can-you-shoot-a-traditional-bow/ "A bow with a draw-weight of 100 pounds or more can allow you to shoot a traditional bow at upwards of 240 yards." 240 yards is 720 feet. http://stortford-archers.org.uk/physics-of-medieval-archery/ "In 1590, Sir Roger Williams wrote: ‘Out of 5000 archers not 500 will make any strong shootes . . . few or none do anie great hurt 12 or 14 score off.’ A ‘score’ is twenty yards (18.3 m), so Sir Roger was complaining that the archers of his day (nearly 200 years after Agincourt) were so feeble that they could barely manage to shoot a distance of 220 to 260 m." 220 meters is 721.785 feet, 260 meters is 853.018 feet. https://www.reddit.com/r/theydidthemath/comments/30k8yt/request_how_high_would_an_arrow_go_if_you_shot_it/ "How high would an arrow go if you shot it straight up"- "A 50 pound bow would fire it about 369 m (403 yards) up, and a 65 pound bow would fire it about 470 m (514 yards) up." 369 meters is 1210.63 feet, 470 meters is 1541.99 feet. Based on those five sources out of 10 ranges only one is lesser than The Wall, and that's a minimum practice range set by Henry VIII - 220 yd (200 m) 656.168 feet. And The Wall is 700 feet tall. So it's realistical that the Watchers and the Wildlings can shoot at each other with longbows and crossbows, 700 feet up or down The Wall and hit the target from that distance.
  5. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

  6. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

    That's not what I said. I said - "If she did saved Drogo, and restored his health and mind, then Drogo would have remained to be Khal of his khalasar, instead now that khalasar belongs to Rhaego, with Khal Pono as Rhaego's "regent". " You misunderstood it as "Drogo's death = Rhaego inherites his father's khalasar", but that's not what I meant. If Drogo survived, then he would have remained to be a Khal of his khalasar, and him together with Dany would have raised their child. With his father as a Khal of khalasar in which Rhaego lived, there would have been no any danger for Rhaego, no necessity to grow up faster, no necessity to prove anything to anyone, instead he would have been protected and sheltered by his Khal-father and Drogo's bloodriders. And eventually, when he would have been in his teens, his father's people would have started to treat Rhaego as the Stallion that mounts the world, and would have went on conquest with him to seize the world under his control. But with his father dead, Rhaego will have to grow up faster, to fight his own battles, even in his own khalasar, because Khal Pono won't be treating Rhaego same way as he would have been treated by his father. Who knows what's the real reason why Pono took Rhaego, have he done it because of his blood-pledge to Drogo, or because he is planning to use Rhaego and his status of the Stallion to gain power for himself. Seems that 10 thousands of Dothraki from Drogo's ex-khalasar decided to go with newly made Khal Pono specifically because Pono took Rhaego under his wing. They didn't joined Pono's khalasar, they joined Rhaego's khalasar. It's similar to the situation with the Stark family - if Ned didn't died, his children would have remained living a sheltered life for another 5 or so years. Instead - look at them now, especially Bran and Arya. Who were they before? -> just children, additions to their parents. But now they are independent individuals, now they are walking on their own life-path. Their parents were protecting and sheltering them, but at the same time - they were holding them back, preventing them from realising their potential. It could be compared to learning to ride a bicycle without training wheels. It's easier and safer to use them, but eventually you will have to take them off and learn to ride without them. For Rhaego Drogo would have played a role of training wheels. Rhaego is khal of khals, so he's going to lead khals, while those khals will continue to lead their khalasars. No, I didn't. Whaaaat? Where did I said that Drogo HAD to die, for Rhaego to get Drogo's khalasar? Rhaego will be leading ALL khalasars, but those khalasars will remain to be ruled by their original khals. Thus there's no need for any of those khals to die, not for Drogo not for anyone else. Example - multinational conglomerate company LVMH Moët Hennessy – Louis Vuitton SE, with Bernard Arnault as a CEO (chief executive officer). The company consists of dozens of other companies such as Louis Vuitton (CEO - Michael Burke), Bvlgari (CEO - Jean-Christophe Babin), Hennesy (CEO - Bernard Peillon), Givenchy (CEO - Philippe Fortunato), Christian Dior SE (CEO - Sidney Toledano, Chairman - Bernard Arnault), etc. Rhaego's mega-khalasar is like LVMH Moët Hennessy – Louis Vuitton SE, with multiple khalasars/companies as parts of it; Rhaego is like Bernard Arnault, who is a CEO of LVMH, and at the same time is a Chairman of the company Christian Dior SE, where CEO is Sidney Toledano. So (1.1)Khal Pono to (2.1)Rhaego and (3.1)ex-Drogo's khalasar is like (1.2)Sidney Toledano to (2.2)Bernard Arnault and (3.2)Christian Dior SE. And for Bernard Arnault to become a CEO of LVMH, none of those other CEOs, that lead all those companies, didn't had to die. If Drogo was still alive, then he would have been Rhaego's "Sidney Toledano" instead of Khal Pono. Get it? There's A LOT of them. 10+. For Rhaegal's life paid the life of a stallion, whose body was undernear Drogo's funeral pyre. The second egg hatched when the fire had reached under the logs and the horse's body started to burn. That's when the second egg hatched with the sound of thunder. Drogo's life paid for Drogon, Mirri Maz Duur's life paid for Viserion, and that horse's life paid for Rhaegal. Three bodies on funeral pyre, three dragons hatched. Rhaego wasn't there. Jorah wasn't there when Dany was giving birth to Rhaego. The man whom Dany saw as Jorah, the one who said that Rhaegar was the last dragon and then "melted" into thin air, was maester Marwyn not Jorah. (<- let's not start on it, just wait for the book). Jorah and Mirri agreed beforehand to lie to Dany about what happened to her baby. He was ashamed to had to lie to her about that. What for? I'll wait until the book will come out, and then there will be many threads how did readers missed that Rhaego is alive. And I will write there - "I told you so ". And if I was wrong, then I will post something with lots of and and .
  7. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

    Seems that you missed the key point from Dothraki culture. AGOT, Dany IV - "Ser Jorah had explained that it was forbidden to carry a blade in Vaes Dothrak, or to shed a free man's blood. Even warring khalasars put aside their feuds and shared meat and mead together when they were in sight of the Mother of Mountains. In this place, the crones of the dosh khaleen had decreed, all Dothraki were one blood, one khalasar, one herd." AGOT, Dany V - "The stallion is the khal of khals promised in ancient prophecy, child. He will unite the Dothraki into a single khalasar and ride to the ends of the earth, or so it was promised. All the people of the world will be his herd." Rhaego is the khal of khals. So all khalasars are his. He is GRRM's parallel to the second Jesus/the son of the Woman Clothed in the Sun. In the Bible Jesus was titled king of kings and lord of lords. Which doesn't mean that he will inherite United Kingdom from Queen Elizabeth II, or Monaco from Prince Albert II, etc. Eventually all khalasars will join into one, and that khalasar will be under Rhaego's reign. And the khals of all those khalasars will remain to be khals, with the sole difference that Rhaego will be their "overlord". AGOT, Dany V - " "I have seen his face, and heard the thunder of his hooves," she proclaimed in a thin, wavery voice. "The thunder of his hooves!" the others chorused. "As swift as the wind he rides, and behind him his khalasar covers the earth, men without number, with arakhs shining in their hands like blades of razor grass. Fierce as a storm this prince will be. His enemies will tremble before him, and their wives will weep tears of blood and rend their flesh in grief. The bells in his hair will sing his coming, and the milk men in the stone tents will fear his name." The old woman trembled and looked at Dany almost as if she were afraid. "The prince is riding, and he shall be the stallion who mounts the world." " AGOT, Dany X - "She climbed the pyre herself to place the eggs around her sun-and-stars. (3) The black beside his heart, under his arm. (2) The green beside his head, his braid coiled around it. (1) The cream-and-gold down between his legs." AGOT, Dany X - "She heard a crack, (1) the sound of shattering stone. The platform of wood and brush and grass began to shift and collapse in upon itself. Bits of burning wood slid down at her, and Dany was showered with ash and cinders. And something else came crashing down, bouncing and rolling, to land at her feet; a chunk of curved rock, (1) pale and veined with gold, broken and smoking. The roaring filled the world, yet dimly through the firefall Dany heard women shriek and children cry out in wonder. Only death can pay for life. And there came a (2) second crack, loud and sharp as thunder, and the smoke stirred and whirled around her and the pyre shifted, the logs exploding as the fire touched their secret hearts. She heard the screams of frightened horses, and the voices of the Dothraki raised in shouts of fear and terror, and Ser Jorah calling her name and cursing. No, she wanted to shout to him, no, my good knight, do not fear for me. The fire is mine. I am Daenerys Stormborn, daughter of dragons, bride of dragons, mother of dragons, don't you see? Don't you SEE? With a belch of flame and smoke that reached thirty feet into the sky, the pyre collapsed and came down around her. Unafraid, Dany stepped forward into the firestorm, calling to her children. (3) The third crack was as loud and sharp as the breaking of the world." Three eggs, three dragons, three riders. First out of three hatched the cream-and-gold egg, with the sound of shattering stone. Because the rider of this dragon, Jon Snow, is "From a smoking tower, a great stone beast took wing, breathing shadow fire. . . . mother of dragons, slayer of lies" - ACOK, Dany IV. Jon is a "dragon" that will be awakened from stone (the lie to slay for Dany is to discover that Jon is not a bastard of Ned Stark). That's why Viserion's egg hatched with the sound of shattering stone. Rhaegal's egg hatched with the sound of thunder, because his future rider, Rhaego, is the Stallion that mounts the world, khal of khals, and dosh khaleen heard the thunder of his hooves, when they were predicting his birth. Drogon's egg hatched with the sound of the breaking of the world, because his future rider, Dany, is the Breaker of Chains, and she will break existing world order by getting rid of slavery. "bride of dragons, mother of dragons, don't you see? Don't you SEE?" - first hatched Viserion's egg, and his rider will become Dany's third husband, that's why she is the bride of dragons/bride of fire. The second hatched Rhaegal's egg, and his future rider, Rhaego, is a dragon/Targaryen, Dany's son. Dany is the mother of the second dragonrider, and the bride of the third (the eggs hatched in the opposite order to order in which those dragons will find their riders - Viserion hatched first, but he will get a rider the last out of three dragons, because Dany and Rhaego are in Essos, and Jon is in Westeros. Dany will be reunited with Rhaego before they will depart from Essos, so Rhaego will bond with Rhaegal prior Jon will meet Viserion). More evidences that Rhaego will be Rhaegal's rider: AGOT, Dany IV - "Irri fetched the egg with the deep green shell, bronze flecks shining amid its scales as she turned it in her small hands. Dany curled up on her side, pulling the sandsilk cloak across her and cradling the egg in the hollow between her swollen belly and small, tender breasts. She liked to hold them. They were so beautiful, and sometimes just being close to them made her feel stronger, braver, as if somehow she were drawing strength from the stone dragons locked inside. She was lying there, holding the egg, when she felt the child move within her … as if he were reaching out, brother to brother, blood to blood. "You are the dragon," Dany whispered to him, "the true dragon. I know it. I know it." " Rhaego and Rhaegal already formed their bond when both of them were still embryos. This scene and the fact that Rhaegal's egg hatched with the sound of thunder is an evidence that Rhaego is alive and will eventually become Rhaegal's rider. The Undying predicted to Dany three threasons, the first one for blood. Rhaego was born alive. In her fevered dream Dany saw distorted memories of what was happening when she was giving birth to Rhaego. They (Mirri and Shiera Seastar/Quaithe /smiling and whispering stars in Dany's dream/ ghosts with mismatched green-blue eyes, and swords of pale fire in their hands, which was actually a glass candle) used some sort of magic on Dany and her unborn baby, and because of it Dany's POV was switching between her body and the body of unborn yet Rhaego. And then he was born and he saw Dany (that "the face within was her own"). He was born alive and he wasn't blind. Thus what Mirri Maz Duur said to Dany was a lie. Quaithe couldn't have taken Rhaego with her, because physically she wasn't there. Thus the baby was taken by someone else. When Dany regained consciousness, Jorah and Mirri and Dany's maids and bloodriders were still in the camp. So the baby was taken by those who have left. And the first to leave was Pono. He was one of Drogo's bloodriders, and the only one of them that survived. So he was what remained from Drogo's "blood", and because Rhaego was Drogo's son, blood of his blood, and Pono also was blood of Drogo's blood, it was his duty to take the baby, which he did. The treason for blood - Dany's son was kidnapped by blood of his blood, by his father's ex-bloodrider. There is no direct textual evidences of this. Or more direct than those few bread crumbs that I mentioned. The readers are not supposed to figure it out. Those elements in the books, they are not clues that GRRM left for readers to uncover the mystery, those elements are more like bricks from which GRRM had build fundament for the future reveal that Rhaego is alive.
  8. Megorova

    Small Questions v. 10106

    She didn't prevented anything. She didn't caused any harm to Rhaego. He was born alive, and then kidnapped by Dothraki. So he will eventually become the Stallion that Mounts the World. Furthermore it was Mirri's actions that assured this outcome. If she did saved Drogo, and restored his health and mind, then Drogo would have remained to be Khal of his khalasar, instead now that khalasar belongs to Rhaego, with Khal Pono as Rhaego's "regent". Thus all prophecies does come true, and they are inevitable. Whatever characters will do, all their actions will lead to fullfilment of the prophecy, even if what they were doing was supposed to prevent it from happening.
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    Baelish's plan to the Throne

    Though if Littlefinger for many years was one of Varys' closest people, then he knows what kind of methods Varys is using, so he made according countermeasures. If something will happen to LF then all of Varys' secrets will be revealed. Neither of them can kill the other, or to directly challenge or oppose the other. If LF will reveal to Lannisters, or to anyone else, what he knows about Varys, then how is he going to explain how did he get access to that information, and why didn't he revealed that information to authorities, if he knew all that for years? Thus revealing to authorities who Varys is, and what he is planing to do, would also reveal LF as Varys' ex-agent, so he will also be punished for treason, same as Varys. It's their shared secret, and revelation of it will damage both of them, so for LF it's the last resort. But if Varys will try to do something against LF, then LF will reveal his secrets. I think that there are some kind of countermeasures that will be activated in case of LF's sudden death. And Varys probably did something similar in case of his own death. So neither of them can get rid of the other. It's a stalemate. They can change their situation in the Big Game, only thru usage of other people as their pawns. fAegon is Varys' trump card, and Sansa is LF's. AGOT, Ned IV - "Littlefinger smiled. "Leave Lord Varys to me, sweet lady. If you will permit me a small obscenity - and where better for it than here - I hold the man's balls in the palm of my hand." He cupped his fingers, smiling. "Or would, if he were a man, or had any balls. You see, if the pie is opened, the birds begin to sing, and Varys would not like that. Were I you, I would worry more about the Lannisters and less about the eunuch."" LF's personal sigil is a mockingbird (which has nothing to do with symbols of House Baelish. Their sigil is a grey head with burning eyes on green field). I think it means that he used to be one of Varys' Little birds. So mockingbird is a symbol of LF's victory over Varys, it means that he outsmarted his teacher. Maybe I'm totally wrong about this, and my theory is incorrect. Though why either of the two of them didn't got rid of the other? They are obviously in each other's way, but so far neither of them tried to actively get rid of the other. So there's definitely some serious reason for their mutual toleration. And if it's not what I wrote above, the what else could it be? P.S. Varys and loose ends - Daenerys and her dragons are out of Varys' grasp, and his original plan failed (thru Dany's marriage with Khal Drogo to get support of Dothraki during Golden Company's invasion into Westeros); Jorah, Barristan Selmy, Arya, Sansa, Bran, Euron Greyjoy, Varys doesn't even know about Jon's real identity <- and each of those people is able to greatly influence the outcome of the Big Game. Varys doesn't know everything, and he doesn't control everything. It's not like he can get rid of any obstacle on his path, or to remove from the Game any unpredictable element, just because he wants so. ASOS, Sansa VI - " "In King's Landing, there are two sorts of people. The players and the pieces." "And I was a piece?" She dreaded the answer. "Yes, but don't let that trouble you. You're still half a child. Every man's a piece to start with, and every maid as well. Even some who think they are players." " Maybe he was talking about himself too, that when he was younger, half a child like Sansa is now, he also used to be a piece, even though at that time he thought that he was a player. But instead he was used by Varys as his pawn, and then moved aside, when a better option appeared (fAegon). So LF stopped being one of Varys' "pieces" and instead became a player on his own.
  10. Megorova

    Baelish's plan to the Throne

    What if Littlefinger already does have that link? What if he is a dragonseed and is bloodrelated to Targaryens? What if he can prove that he is Aegon IV's descendant? Doesn't that give him a right to claim Targaryen crown (in case if Dany, Stannis and Shireen, and all Blackfyres will be out of the picture)?
  11. Megorova

    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    I'm not mocking you. Or anyone else. Am I wrong about this? -> "Where exactly am I placing commas, where there shouldn't be any commas?" <- in this sentence, there should be a pause between "commas" and "where", and if there's a pause, then there should be a comma there, or some other sign of punctuation, such as "," or "-", or ":", or ";". Or that's wrong, and even though there are pause in there, there isn't supposed to be any signs of punctuation? For example, the sentence that you wrote, I would have wrote it like this - "I'm not sure if this sentence is you mocking me, or if it's a genuine example of what I pointed out.", or even like this "I'm not sure, if this sentence is you mocking me, or if it's a genuine example, of what I pointed out." And I'm not mocking you. I was studying English over 15 years ago, and it was very basic English, like translation of words, that are frequently used in everyday life, and building of simple sentences. Considering that since then all English practice that I have received was from watching movies and TV-series in English, my current level could have been much worse than it is. I just used Google-Translator to translate my previous sentence, and if I was writing it the way I see it, then I would have wrote - "Considering that since then all English practice, that I have received, was from watching movies and TV-series in English, my current level could have been much worse, than it is." So it seems that I really am using commas where they are not needed. I'll try not to. P.S. In a sentence that starts with "So" or "Also" or "Nevertheless" should there be a comma after it? Is there supposed to be a comma in a sentence after words such as "thus", "for example", "in my opinion", "I think"?
  12. Megorova

    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    Huh? Now I am certain of it, we have read entirely different books! I was reading ASOIAF not in order it was written. I have read all chapters with Jon's POV in all books, then all chapters with Dany's POV, etc. So, I don't remember which event happened in which book. Whether this or that event happened in AGOT, or in ACOK, or in one of other books. I do remember, that in one of those books there was no Jon's POV. So, it was in AFFC, not in ACOK. Can you give me an example? Where exactly am I placing comas, where there shouldn't be any comas?
  13. Megorova

    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    Sorry, I meant in TWOW. No Dany's chapters in TWOW. It's a possibility, because GRRM said, that she will go to Westeros only near the end of that book. There was no Jon's POV in ACOK, and what was happening at The Wall, was depicted in Sam's chapters. Now we have Tyrion and Barristan in Meereen. So, whatever will be happening there, as far into the future, as Dany's arrival to Westeros, could be also depicted thru their POV, even if Dany will return to Meereen prior the end of TWOW. So, Dany could be present in later part of TWOW, but we will see her only thru other POVs. And then, when she will get to Westeros, there's still Tyrion, Barristan (if he won't die in TWOW), Cersei (if Dany will get to KL, then what she will be doing there, we may find out thru Cersei's POV, and not thru Dany's, because there's not much what Dany's knows about Westeros and KL, and characters that are there, or what kind of political situation they have there, so we will get significantly more information thru Cersei's POV than thru Dany's POV, if both of them will be at KL, or in that area), and later, when Dany will meet Jon, it means that she will have less screen time than him. Because majority of political events will be depicted in Tyrion's and Cersei's chapters, while nearly all action will be in Jon's, Jaime's, Brienne's and Arya's POVs. In ADOS there was only 1 of Jaime's chapters, and 2 of Cersei's, even though in previous books they had significantly more "screen time". The same could happen with Jon and Dany in the last two books. So, none of their chapters in TWOW, and small number of their chapters in ADOS. Because it's a possibility, that all important events in the last two books will be presented thru someone else's POV, and not thru Jon's or Dany's. Thru Tyrion, Bran, Sam. If Quaithe is Shiera Seastar, then Rhaego is alive. Because if Quaithe is Shiera, then she was Mirri Maz Duur's teacher, and she was summoned by Mirri, when Dany was giving birth to Rhaego, and Shiera used magic to help the baby to be born, and he was born alive. Later he was kidnapped by Dothraki (by Khal Pono, whom Dany met in her last chapter in ADWD), and that's the treason for blood. When Rhaegal's egg hatched, it hatched with the sound of thunder, and about the Stallion that mounts the world Dosh khaleen said, that they can hear thunder of his hooves; and several other elements of foreshadowing, that Rhaego will become second dragonrider after Dany, and that his dragon will be Rhaegal. So, it will happen prior they will depart to Westeros. It's a possibility. For example, in TWOW what will be happening in Westeros we will get thru Cersei's/Sansa's/Jaime/Brienne chapters in the East and Riverlands, Sam/Aeron and Arianne/Areo/JonCon in the South and south-east, Davos/Theon/Asha/Mel in the North, thru Prologue with Jeyne Westerling in the West and Riverlands; and what's happening in Essos we will get thru Victarion/Tyrion/Barristan/Arya. So, what happened with Bran beyond The Wall, after he fell asleep; with Dany, when she met those Dothraki; and with Jon, we will find out later, in ADOS. Events in TWOW and ADOS can be happening at about the same time, only ADOS will go a bit further into the future, already after POV-characters from TWOW will meet other characters, that will be POVs in ADOS.
  14. Megorova

    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    What's that? Barristan's chapter prior the battle was utterly boring. It totally lacked any personality. Looked more like a dry summary, than an actual chapter. Though, maybe, later GRRM will rewrite it. Nothing much happens in Tyrion's POV, he's not in the centre of events, more like he's observing them from afar. So, the Battle of Meereen will be mostly boring. And the peak event of it will be how Victarion will be burned by Dany's dragons. But we have already read something like that in Quentyn's POV. Are we sure, that there will be Dany's POV in ADOS? Because I doubt it. Seems fairly likely, that in TWOW there will be no Jon's and no Dany's POVs, so what happened to Jon, after they tried to kill him, and what happened to Dany, when she met those Dothraki, we will find out only in ADOS. Though I hope, that I'm wrong, and GRRM did included Jon's and Dany's POV in TWOW. If Dany will be reunited with Rhaego in Vaes Dothrak, then that won't be boring. Not interested in what's going on there. Euron will die anyway. Whatever's the reason, why he went to Oldtown, he will fail. What he went there to find (probably, same reason, why Jaqen went there), isn't there anymore, or not important anymore. This could be interesting. But, most likely, we will see it only from sidelines, or info about those events will be presented to readers already after those events will happen, and thus, the most interesting events will be happening off screen. Boring. Braavos for her is just a stepping stone. She will shorten her death-list, while she's there, and then move on. That's when her story will become interesting/exciting. She's stupid and boring. Wherever. Would have been so much better to read about those events from Jon's POV, not from someone else's, even Mel's. In my opinion, the most interesting POVs are Jon, Bran and Dany. And it's fairly possible, that none of them will be in TWOW. I also like Tyrion's POV, but his two chapters in TWOW were lacking. Maybe, those were mere preliminary chapters, and later GRRM will rewrite them. But if he won't, and that's what Tyrion's POV will be from now on, then the quality of GRRM's writing has seriously went down, while he was working on TWOW.
  15. Megorova

    Will ADOS Be Entirely Dedicated To The Others?

    Maybe events in both books will be happening at the same time, only in different locations, thru different POVs, and events in ADOS will go slightly further than events in TWOW. Thus, there will be both political struggles and fights against monsters in both books. So far we know 8 POV-characters from TWOW - Sansa in The Vale; Arya in Braavos; Tyrion, Barristan and Victarion in Meereen; Theon in The North; Aeron somewhere in the sea, possibly nearing Oldtown; Arianne in Dorne, possibly going to Stormlands. Possibly where Theon is, his POV will be interchanging with Asha's POV, because she's also in The North. Arianne's POV possibly will interchange with Areo Hotah's POV, if he will be escorting her to Stormlands. Probably, in TWOW there will also be one of Melisandre's chapters at The Wall. That's 11, + 1 in Prologue, and 1 in Epilogue, 13 POVs in total. In ADWD there was 18 POV-characters, and 3 of them are already dead, 15 left. In AFFC there was 13 POV-characters, and 2 of them died, 12 left. In ASOS there was 12 POV-characters, 3 of them are already dead, 9 left. 10 POV-characters in ACOK, 2 of them are dead, 8 left. In AGOT there was 9 POV-characters, 3 of them are dead, 6 left. So it's likely that those 11+2 from above are all POVs of TWOW, and the rest of POV-characters, such as Dany, Jon, Bran, Sam, Cersei, Jaime, Brienne, Davos, and JonCon will appear only in ADOS. 9 of them + 2 in Prologue and Epilogue. Possibly in span of TWOW something will happen at The Wall, off screen, and characters in The North, such as Theon and Asha, and Stannis will have to run from the Others, that will somehow break thru The Wall. And what exactly happened at The Wall we will find out only in ADOS, thru Jon's POV, that will be depicting events of that break thru of the Others. Possibly Bran will arrive to Castle Black shortly prior the Others. Davos will find Rickon, and will bring him to The Wall, or to Winterfell. Brienne and Jaime will take Sansa from The Vale, and will bring her to LSH, and after that will escort her either to The Wall, or to Winterfell. JonCon probably will go to the Citadel, to find a cure, and from there he will escort Sam to The Wall, or Winterfell (if by that time Jon will be there). Dany will be with Dothraki, and by the time she will bring them to Meereen, the battle there will be already over (depicted in Tyrion's and Barristan's POVs). Dany with Dothraki, and her people from Meereen will go to Westeros, and probably on the way there, Arya will join them. So, there will be Cersei and Euron in King's Landing, fAegon with Arianne somewhere near there, Dany with her people will arrive to Westeros, and the rest of characters will be in The North, probably in Winterfell. Dany will deal with fAegon, Cersei and Euron, and will go north, to help in the final battle against the Others, where she will meet Jon. TWOW will be boring, and all important events will happen only in ADOS.
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