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  1. Ser Creighton

    Small Questions v. 10105

    We have not met the Sea lord yet, I here he reminds people of Kieth Richards.
  2. Ser Creighton

    Small Questions v. 10105

    Her last name is essentially Other, she is a possible daughter of Dragons, she is associated with the Daughter of Dusk, Lights seem to glow brighter when she is around. Just more symbolism and juxtaposing. Not a significant character, daughter of Dusk will probably not have a major role either. If Dany pops in for a visit maybe they meet for a second who knows. Maybe Johnny Depp plays a role
  3. Ser Creighton

    Small Questions v. 10105

    So they flipped the region from the GNC to the GVC? Well here is hoping they find the correct region this time.
  4. Ser Creighton

    Small Questions v. 10105

    Depends on the fans, and a lot of times it's more like topics than theories, or questions. R+L=J was probably the most talked about and most famous, seems to have slowed down for some reason more recently. But there are a lot of theories that are popular, some proven, some not proven, some dispelled. Coldhands? Jojen paste? Almost anything about Dawn or the Daynes, FAegon real or fake? Ummm Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne, the GNC was popular for a long time, don't see much talk about it anymore, and Tyrion is a Targ, that's still under a decent amount of debate. Everyone has their own sort of thing they are interested in but I guess R+L=J is probably the crown prince of theories from the board, been at the top longer than just about anything else. It was like a community theory that started I want to say in the late 90's, maybe 2000 I think by an editor and fans took it from there. There is like a 4 year window where it started popping up and growing. Still not officially proven which is why it's still pinned. It may not officially be proven for a little bit yet, if ever you never know with Martin. Some say official some not, depends who you ask. There are some solid theories, some bad theories and a whole lot of tinfoil out there.
  5. Nor would Arya have been in a bad place? Her father too last I checked. I did not know he was just Sansa's father. I gotta be honest denial is not a great response. I did not say I was a half or a whole, I said she had as much right and that at no point was stated that this was Sansa's role to do. I believe Both Arya and Sansa spent time with the Hound as well. Arya was with Tywin and Sansa with Cersei at one point. I think both will be associated with his fall but Arya will probably do the deed, she didn't go faceless for nothing. I do find it interesting certain fans often separate the sisters, as if they were not sisters. Same blood flows through their hearts. Someone actually just forgot that Ned had two daughters, both in the same place during the betrayal. Both there at his death. I would not say Arya's journey has been free of Danger or suffering. Can't believe some people would actually forget Neds words about his own daughters. Oh well. I like the theory, I know it's been around awhile, it's good theory, not perfect but none of them are. I think I could probably be counted as a whole if the basic conclusion is Arya sticks LF with the pointy end. I think the complexity of it will involve both sisters though.
  6. Whoever said Killing LF was Sansa's role? Maybe it is and maybe it isn't, but as far as I can tell LF hurt all the Starks. LF has been nicer to Sansa than almost anyone else, though he has his reasons and is using her. But he still rescued her, he still set her up in the Vail, she is in a rather safe place for the most part right now and more content than she has been in years. While all part of his manipulations she is still in a better place than she was and that is do to him. Any Stark has a right to go after him, just as any Stark has a right to go after the Boltons. Did Sansa get to off Joff? Did Tyrion? I would say Sansa had a right there, and she unknowingly took part in it, but she sure didn't take him out. Stannis may or may not wax the Boltons, remains to be seen for book readers. Why possibly him and not Jeyne or Theon, or Jon, or Arya? Or maybe one of them and not another. Will Loras get vengeance for Renly? Maybe, but probably not. Martin does not generally right that way, and on occasion he gives you that one moment but he is not a big payback guy more like justice can come to anyone and sometimes it does not come at all. Fans do not get to decide a characters role as much as we sometimes would like too or hope too. Arya has the skill and temperament to take someone out, but currently lack the proximity to effect LF or anyone like WF, LF, Cersei etc... Though that may change, Martin did not make her a faceless assassin for no reason. He did give her the tools to be lethal if need be and these tools seem to relate more to her future than her present which like many Characters is simply a training period. He is giving them tools they need for the future and it seems unlikely he made her Faceless because it would somehow be useful against the Others. Pretty sure the zombies don't care what she looks like or her name. So she is probably going to wax some asses and maybe cause some political turmoil, she can also frame plenty of people given her talents. If she nails LF good for her, I don't see a debate in the books between her and Sansa of "no it was my turn to kill someone, or i'll flip you for it." Heck maybe Sansa plots with her, we shall see. Foreshadowing seems decent with Arya though.
  7. Ser Creighton

    How Daenerys will die

    Well I didn't say Jon would go with her, I left his options rather open, weather it was death, the way, maybe they both vanish, it's a tough call. Would he go with her? That all depends on the story, lets say they did hook up, and there is a love story aspect. Then yeah maybe, he enjoyed his time with the Wildlings and he may wish for a simpler life at this point, again it was mostly speculation on Dany and I left Jon in the category of many options. You know the watch, the north, even KL, but I don't see that idea thrilling him that much. I would think the vanishing option is possible but I tend to think for Martin it would leave to many options open, a lot of his story falls apart if Dany vanishes like slavery and possibly Tyrion on the throne. They both need some power baking them, to maintain new policy, especially slavery. I was thinking rather than having to show step by step what happens after the fact, that the presence of Her or her and Jon perhaps with the Dothraki wandering as I pointed out, that the idea sort of speaks for itself. You know they are there and can maintain policy. If one or both vanish a lot of ideas fall apart and it kind becomes meaningless, the slavery plot means nothing and is likely to fall apart without her. Westeros would also lose stability right after gaining it during a very crucial period. I like Tyrion but I do not see him having the support to maintain the 7 Kingdoms. I don't see Westeros dividing and everyone going backwards. I don't expect Martin to give many answers in the end, but I expect a little direction. I do expect you would be able to see a general direction of where things could go. Rather than chaos, after chaos. The end of the Maiden and Lion story also went out of it's way to point out the missing child and what happens without that. Things fall apart, I don't expect harmony or some perfect society, but just some idea of where things in the world could go. Like what would CHK slavery from suddenly rising back up with Dany, or what would happen in Westeros to prevent yet more civil wars from suddenly popping up in power struggles. If her and Jon are off the table it sort of falls apart and becomes somewhat meaningless. I feel like post long night you do need some stability left on the field for both Westeros and Essos. I can't see him saying Tyrion took power, and the world found balance and everyone loved him. I expect it would look like lots of work ahead in recovery and rebuilding and you need a little muscle out there to make sure things progress rather than fall apart yet again.
  8. Ser Creighton

    How Daenerys will die

    I am just going to address the Dany stuff as it's a Dany topic, and it's speculative. So a friend of mine and fellow poster here sometimes always had this idea that if Dany does not die and that's up for debate, that she thinks Dany would not stay to rule at least not in the traditional sense of Westeros. Maybe she appoints someone like Tyrion or maybe she just vanishes with possible Jon like Nettles and Daemon. Witch got me to thinking is there any possible foreshadowing to this. Now I think you can make an argument that Dany and the future of the story will have some parallels to the Dance, though I don't think it's how many people imagine with Aegon. But rather we will see another battle over the Gods eye. Both Daemon and Dany have a brother named Viserys though you could say they were opposites. So if Dany were to Vanish I think she would actually be returning to the great grass sea, to the Dothraki. Not like the end of Dance, but she may return to them. Dany has two interesting aspects in her dreams that may point to this. One is the barefoot girl running in the grass. We see this imagery repeated when Dany is with the Dothraki early in thrones. Barefoot walking in the grass and mud and letting it squish between her feet. We see this happen again in Dance when she returns to the Dothraki sea and is walking through it barefoot. I guess the next part is not really dream related but ties to her being a Dragon. In the history of Dragons, it's not really considered a good thing for them to be chained down. We read about this with the Dragon Pit of KL, and saw it with her own Dragons in Meereen when they were in the make shift Dragon pit which is really a reflection of Dany's story in Meereen. She did not exactly like ruling or politics, she was happiest in the Dothraki sea. As a character Dany has spent most of her life as a nomad wandering from place to place. I don't think she would even like KL. While she is groomed to rule, that does not mean Martin plans for her to rule in a conventional way, Dany has been anything but conventional. Similar to her time with the Dothraki, Jon's time with the Wildlings nomadic army was an enjoyable time for him and the girl he was with was kissed by fire. Again this could be foreshadowing a parallel. In truth Dany wandering around Essos with a Dothraki army going from town to town, would be a more effective way to ensure slavery remained gone. While she could always journey to Westeros to check up on things from time to time. I think once she leaves Meereen she will place someone in charge there and I think if she leaves Westeros it will mirror that. I think Tyrion sits the throne in the end, not only is he good at politics and has a strong understanding of Westrosi culture, but he enjoys it to an extent that neither she or Jon does. If I had to guess I think Dany leaves, maybe Jon goes with her, maybe he is dead, maybe he stays behind, maybe he reforms the watch, or rules the north. But her, I think she leaves, I think her home is where her heart is and that is actually out on those plains. I think being chained to one city would mirror the dragons, it would be bad for her, she is better in the wild and on the move. I actually like the idea better than sitting on the Iron throne, she is a nomad, and nomads got to move around. I also don't think she would want a child of hers raised in KL, I think the Dothraki culture minus slavery appeals to her, and she does not need slaves to have followers, she is pretty much the most famous person of her generation.
  9. Ser Creighton

    If Jon becomes King , who will be his Queen ?

    You were uncomfortable to Dany and Jon being uncomfortable is just a transition, I put you in their shoes so to speak. Blind, date probably would not be comfortable as at the last moment we saw them they were both a mess. Jon being a bloody mess is not a description of his looks, he was stabbed and lying in the snow. Neither one of them are in a good place right now, like in terms of health, Get it? It's kind of like a question, have ever been uncomfortable when first meeting someone, can you imagine these two right now? It's a play on their current situations. Relating a person to a character, you know theory of mind? It was not about physical attraction it was about bad situations. Like situational comedy? You know being stabbed. A bloody mess lying in the snow, cause you know stabbed, and read Dany's last chapter more going on then her hair, you know like probably needs a doctor, or could use one. It's a specific moment thing, putting them together at that moment in a date setting. Notice how "In all seriousness" follows that paragraph, cause you know not being serious. That is why there is a qualifier. Almost correct? No they are not done being developed and your own post indicates that. Sure they will apply what they learned, they pretty much do that in every book as they develop. Generally an author will not stop developing a character till the story is over. There is always something and he did not say he was going to stop developing them. Applying what they are learning is one thing, developing is another. As for plot vs. character development, well you know it's not one or the other right? He does both, he does a lot of things. That's why it's a story. Some of the events you seem to be interpreting like Jon taking control of the Others. I don't recall Martin saying that. I mean it could happen, but that is your own supposition, or maybe you feel it is fact. I have gone down that road before. For me I am more uncertain about it, but I did once include the idea in a theory. Years ago. I don't look at symbolism? Really? How would you know from one post? Well the Norse mythology is interesting and I took part in several of those debates over my time here. I don't put an over emphasis on it. You can do the same thing with wolves and Bran's name, trees? But you can also get into other mythology as well, I mean he picks and chooses what he likes and blends them. He also has his own mythology which he has created in world. You know name meaning does not mean a character impresses me and yeah, I have already seen the Daario stuff, been here a long time, plenty of theories out there. I was not really snarking, just having some fun with the idea of the two meeting at our last views of them. And I don't discount the symbolism of a characters name. You can get into the symbolism of the series, but I can hardly include that in one post. Oh look it's Leo Tyrell and the Sphinx and the Golden bow, and Apples, gosh is there some Greek symbolism going here? Lucifer means Lightbringer but it's also associated with Artemis who brought fourth Apollo. Then you have the huntress and her Greyhounds. Goodness a white Bull. Horned God mythology, mythology of the 3 aspects, Dawn goddess, John Barley corn, Arthurian legend, the Ulster Cycle, Valknut, the name Bran in Welsh mythology, and the Volsunga saga, Barnstokkr, you can also get into Indian Mythology, and Native American mythology like Skin Walkers, and of course history itself, it goes on and on. You can get into the mythology he borrows from other fantasy writers as well, it's not just historical mythology. And then there are different types of symbolism, a simile, a metaphor, personifications. Now I am not going to do an in depth break down on what I listed which is not even a full list which is ever expanding, because you know it would take forever. You can explore what is obscure and the obvious, now I was talking about something that is obvious, but yes of course you can get into the more obscure aspects of symbolism. I encourage it, but I am not going to write a thesis on the symbolism of the series in one post. On a thread really not about that. That's why I only vaguely touched on it. There are reasons we do what we do. Understand it's fine if I am not impressed with Val, or Daario, or Hot Pie for that matter. That is just personal preference, I did not say people should not like a character because of that. Or that you should not appreciate the character. It's a light thread I am going to give light answers. I don't really care much about Gendry either. I understand the bull symbolism, the bull mask and all that. Don't really care that much about the character, don't hate him, just not a focus for me. I personally would like to here your feelings on Daario, you can always post them I do feel that while the crow symbolism being tied to messengers is very accurate, you can also say tied to death and souls. You can say his name means rich as well. You can look at the parallels of lets say Euron, Young Griff, Jon and Darrio. You know it is not an accident that Daario has blue hair, Blue eyes, and is associated with gold, and sell swords. Young Griff, blue hair, blue eyes, associated with gold and sell swords. Both Tyrion and Dany make similar comments about their eyes. You can also see where Dany kind of wished he was Targaryen and maybe JonCon has the same feelings about FAegon. Again it's not about your personal belief about Val you are more than entitled to them, I personally do not find her interesting or that important. Yes I have looked more in depth at Val, it's just this is not that thread, it's a light thread I glanced over it, I have fun with it. Sure I teased you a bit, about throwing a book into the sun. Because it is not the books fault, it's Martin's fault, you throw Martin into the sun. You know even with all the symbolism and mythology, I tend find that the series itself generally comes back to certain cores, some real literary basics. While I have had many in depth conversations on symbolism, and mythology, colors, juxtaposition and the parallels and everything else under the sun, and those conversations probably happened with other posters before me, and before this board. But one light post by my does not mean I have not gone down those roads many times before. Heck one day I might be writing about Terry and Puddles the Others Brothers and their shenanigans (It's a parody I write) or I might be discussing the meaning of juxtaposed characters and the symbolism with in it. I does not effect me if you like Val and your views on her, I just don't really agree that she matters all that much. It's like comparing the Wildlings the Free Folk, and the Dany's free men, one are forced to bend the knee the other do so willingly. You can talk about it but it's probably not going to blow my mind. The juxtaposed symbolism of the Dothraki and the Others is more interesting to me. Just personal preference. Of course what do I know? Sure I wrote sun and moon before the world book was ever published and sure it's a perfect example of maiden and lion even though it came out first, but that was probably just luck. Not bragging about theories at all, that gained huge in cannon support post theory from things like the world book, the blacks and the greens and the show. Okay yes some call me the god father of parallels and symbolism, and yes I have made predictions that have come true, but you can assume that last post was the entirety of what I have written and what I know. Not bragging, I just totally rule and kick ass, and don't have a giant ego at all, just consider me this forums gift to the world, no the universe. Don't worry I rolled my eyes for you, I have to have some goofing around in a post, I can't be to serious for too long. Honestly though if you find time I would like to see your Daario stuff, I am always curious to see what people come up with, I really enjoy different takes on characters, you never know when you will find something knew. Like when LML started doing some of his Horned lord stuff it was very interesting.
  10. Ser Creighton

    If Jon becomes King , who will be his Queen ?

    Why would you be comfortable at this point? The two have never met, there are no interactions just speculation and that can take many shapes. It's a blind date at this point and those don't usually start off comfortably. I can't see Dany being comfortable with Jon at this point. I mean who wants to date a bloody mess who just wants to lie there in the snow? And she is bald with burnt hands, has not had a shower in weeks, and is a bloody mess herself, also sitting in front of a half burnt horse eating it. Magical moment. In all seriousness, neither character is finished being developed at this point we don't know exactly what they will be like or what experiences they may share in the future. Hell Jon does not even know who he is yet. It's like saying Arya is no one right now and that is the way it will always be from now on, when that is probably unlikely. Or that the relationship between Sansa and Littlefinger will not change, or Sansa will not change. Some seem to think she has changed a lot in the last couple of books and that she has several new relationships around her. Personally I look at the symbolism, story and direction but do not really imagine the interactions of any of the characters in the future, just given a general feel where the story is going. The interactions that's Martins Job, he has been pretty good at it so far. Personally looking forward to a lot of people meeting and hopefully some reunions. I want to see different interactions, I want to see Tyrion meet Dany or Sam, or reunite with Jon, or run into Arya. I want to see that with all the characters, it's always been better to me when the POV's are crossing paths, the isolation kind of sucks. Everybody off with their Jedi training. I look forward to all the future interactions. I have already seen Jon and Val, no offense was not impressed. Was not impressed with Daario either. Both essentially serve the same purpose as literary devices. I mean you ever wonder why he named her Val. Cause that's such a Wildling name? What are they from southern Cali? I mean come on a blond haired blue eyed princess named Val, what is it short for Valyria? Or why Daario is compared to a Targaryen and is symbolized by a crow. It's not that complex of a juxtaposition, most of them are not. A lot of people also mention time, they need a lot of time to get to know each other. Alys Karstark new him for like two chapters and for awhile that was a popular pairing. Hell she broke her husband in, and took two paragraphs and everyone was okay with that too. Martin can do interactions just fine, he also probably has a pretty idea of what he wants to see and the characters will interact given that they live in his brain and thus have known each other for decades. I think people make to much out of these things because they don't know the future and they let their own ideas shape them rather than what Martin will actually write. Then they get upset when the story does not go the direction they want, and they throw their books into the sun? Which you know, burning books is just bad. When all Martin is doing is writing his story. "What? Sansa does not get a flying chariot pulled by winged unicorns? What is this hack thinking? SOB, that's it, you books, I blame you and you are going to the sun."
  11. Ser Creighton

    [Spoilers] EP610

    Here is a nice little parallel between the literal and the symbolic. Judging from Jon's parentage symbolically you get ice and fire. A long suspected belief with Jon. But what about the literal aspect. If Jon walks between both does anyone else? There may be one, Drink from the cup of fire, drink from the cup of ice. Jon died, and came back via a priestess of fire. In the books they take the fire within themselves this is what gives them life. The Night's King is also undead, he had the fire taken out this makes him ice of course. And who would stand between those two in the literal aspect of things? Lets say they both happen to want her.
  12. Ser Creighton

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 610?

    Wouldn't be the first time she was married to a walking corpse, and this one even talks and walks, it's a huge step up. I don't know what Sansa is exactly thinking, I think there will be a Rift, but it will get mended, LF is going down.
  13. Ser Creighton

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 610?

    Makes no difference to what the show runners said and are doing, I posted there quotes word for word and links to the quotes. "So I think there’s a little bit of anger about that and a little bit of jealousy and that relationship will be crucial to watch." There is a reason she starts doubting Jon. Littlefinger plants the seed when they meet in the north, afterwards she talks to BOT about. Now BOT seems okay with Jon but does not trust his council. From her perspective Sansa should be concerned about Mel and Davos. Jon is treating Sansa as his little sister still, which she is but he is clearly not aware of who she has become or what she has learned. Sansa believably has trust issues and why not after everything she has been through. but Jon does not take her council on Ramsey, or even seek and this hurt her. She went behind his back to get help. It was not done in malice or with malicious intent but she did not trust Jon to listen to her. She knows she should of trusted him more but it's also not easy for her, she has doubt and has been through a lot. Jon respects Sansa enough to let her decide Ramsey's fate, which I think was a step in the right direction. But we see Sansa being conflicted about certain things. Sansa and Jon both say no to being either the Lord or Lady of Winterfell. The balcony scene ends well enough, they are trying to figure it out, but then once again a problem enters, the same problem that has been floating around Sansa for awhile. Littlefinger and again he tries playing Sansa off Jon being a bastard and her being true born. Littlefinger loves planting the seeds of doubt, and while seeds may be very small things they tend to take root. They are not showing you these seeds for no reason, he is trying to create a rift, it's what he does. Jon is dangerous to him, Jon actually cares about Sansa, he is a threat to him. It's not so much about trust for Littlefinger, he knows people don't trust him, but he wants people to rely on him, he wants Sansa to rely on him not Jon. Now the show runners point to her past with Jon and the present. There are some issues there, and Littlefinger is playing on those issues. Which we see in the heart tree scene. "You my love are the future of house Stark." "Who should the north rally behind? The true born daughter of Catlyne and Ned Stark born here at winterfell, or a motherless bastard born in the south?" Did Sansa say anything? Did she defend Jon. You can see the conflict on her face. Then we get a scene with Bran showing Jon is not motherless. And then back to Sansa and Jon to see that questioned answered by the lords of the north. They rallied to Jon. When Lyanna gave her little speech, Sansa grinned a couple times, But when Manderly declares for Jon you can see her look of surprise as she turns her head away. We then see Littlefingers face with the same look of concern as the lords begin to declare for Jon. Sansa does not smile once during the declarations until Jon looks at her. When Jon begins to stand up, does Sansa look happy to anyone? She gave a weak smile to Jon and then made eye contact with Littlefinger. The two people in the room showing the least emotion. Now personally I think Sansa feels she should be happy for Jon, and yet isn't. I think Sansa feels a bit rejected and under appreciated, after all she endured. And Littlefinger is going to play off that because that is what he does. They are not playing with this idea for no reason, d&d talk about it, and there is a problem there. I think things get worse before they get better between the two. Do you think D&D are not planning on anything involving anger, conflict and jealousy between Sansa and Jon? After just telling people to keep an eye on that relationship when talking about the anger, conflict and jealousy that exists. Now I am not really worried about Littlefinger stealing Sansa away to sit the Iron throne, in fact I will give you a thousand reasons why that will never happen. But that does not stop him from playing the game. http://i.imgur.com/z0qNzxn.jpg
  14. Ser Creighton

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 610?

    Oh yeah they said it, people are talking about Stark civil war on other sites. As in the Marvel movie as a joke, but yes they said she was jealous. I don't know I have seen a lot of people pick up on it with the exchange of looks between her and Littlefinger. http://www.moviefone.com/2016/06/27/sansa-jon-relationship-crucial-to-watch-game-of-thrones-season-7/ http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/06/27/game-of-thrones-will-jon-snow-and-sansa-stark-stay-allies http://www.buddytv.com/articles/game-of-thrones/game-of-thrones-60411.aspx http://mashable.com/2016/06/27/game-of-thrones-season-7-sibling-rifts/#iPy8PMns4Eqf "Sansa does love her brother. They’ve had a conflicted past but over the course of this season they’ve come to really rely upon each other. But she doesn’t necessarily trust him completely. She didn’t tell him about the meeting with Littlefinger; she didn’t tell him that she summoned the knights of The Vale. There’s definitely a little hint of conflict there. We see that come out in episode nine, when she’s at the war council where no one asks her opinion despite the fact that she knows Ramsay better than anyone. So I think there’s a little bit of anger about that and a little bit of jealousy and that relationship will be crucial to watch." So I guess I was not the only one who picked up on it. Don't shoot the messenger, that's what they said, and other people have picked up on it.
  15. Ser Creighton

    [Poll] How would you rate episode 610?

    Umm maybe you should listen to the post credits. Sansa is jealous of Jon, I tossed in some over the top humor. But yeah she isn't happy about it according to the producers.
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