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  1. Stannis' thing isn't ambition. Stannis is based off of I, Claudius' Tiberius Caesar. And I, Claudius' Tiberius didn't want to be Emperor. It was forced on him by his mother and it made him more miserable than he already was. And well, Stannis' reasoning for why he burn a child isn't for more power but it's to save people as that is his duty as king.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    I can't see a reason why Sansa would choose to stay with Tyrion. Sansa doesn't like Lannisters and Sansa isn't attracted to Tyrion. And if you believe that GRRM has the same endgame in mind for his main five as he did int he beginning then logically, Tyrion won't end up with Sansa.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    I mean Brienne has almost just as many chapters in AFFC. They're both definitely the heart of AFFC though. Cersei's more....expendable in the books. Like Cersei's not this overarching Westerosi antagonist. She's more likely an overarching Lannister antagonist. For instance, Sansa doesn't really think about Cersei versus being this mentor in Show Sansa's life. Also Cersei doesn't ever show up in the HoTU as an antagonist for Daenerys but characters like Euron, Aegon and even Stannis do.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Just gonna remind you that Cersei wasn't a main character from the beginning. Just look at his outline. If he's being vague as in "I knew who lives or dies" then it holds up but if he's being a bit more specific than that then the initial outline proves that his endgame changed. Like Arya hooks up with Jon, Jaime is the evil king ruthlessly knocking people out, Cersei is a non-entity and Tyrion/Bran are in deadly rivalries with Jon . So if Dany is now the one hooking up with Jon not Arya then their endgame has changed unless he's being very broad when he says that. Anyways, yeah, it's likely that D & D held off on killing Cersei because they needed a human antagonist and they didn't want to do Aegon so they replaced him with Cersei. Now that's not to say that I don't think Cersei is going to make it to the last book because I do but it's likely that Cersei dies in the first half of the last book rather than making it to nearly the very end. Cersei's a much more peripheral character in the books than in the show.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    GRRM has already said that he made things up as he wrote the outline to pitch a book and promptly forgot about it until it resurfaced over 20 years later. Like consider that how GRRM has said that he's always known about the endgame of his main characters but his outline pretty much says Jon and Arya end up together. Who was Daenerys going to end up with? And if you switch out Arya for Daenerys then you're changing both Arya and Daenerys' endgame.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    More like 60 full minutes if we're lucky with a 90 minute final episode
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    There's no way each episode is gonna be 2 hours long. That's a pipe dream.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    The Long Night will only be 6 episodes max and probably less. It's already kinda anti-climatic
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Then Stannis is smarter than Daenerys since doing that is what let the NK break through the Wall.
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    Theon's bastard

    That's the most likely outcome if they were to use a kingsmoot. Theon is used to overturn the kingsmoot and then Asha gets herself elected. But.....I don't see why that all has to happen if all Euron's going to be killed by someone before anyone before all that needs to happen. Although I could see us going full Scouring of the Shire with Euron as Saruman and Theon as Wormtongue.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    One of the reasons you suspect Sansa will get offed is so Tyrion can whore it up without an inconvenient wife? Sounds pretty feminist. I can see why you like that outcome.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    1) Ned, Catelyn and Robb explicitly die in the outline so Sansa could very well be a surviving Stark. There are mentions of Robb, Ned and Cat dying but not Sansa. Strange how you jump to Sansa must die. 2) Potentially, but we don't have enough context. For all we know, it could be that Jaime kills everyone ahead of him but Joffrey's son survives because he was switched with someone else. There are a lot of ways this could be played. The outline also doesn't say who else is ahead of him. 3) Would the child not be a Targaryen if Jon had a kid with someone else? Sounds very eugenics-like. Anyways, the show strongly implies that Daenerys will never have children too. Daenerys- "I will not lie with you. And I will not bear children, for you, nor anyone else. Not until the sun rises in the west and sets in the east." Then there's Daenerys being associated with Nissa Nissa and being turned into Lightbringer as well: "Yet when she slept that night, she dreamt the dragon dream again. Viserys was not in it this time. There was only her and the dragon. Its scales were black as night, wet and slick with blood. Her blood, Dany sensed. Its eyes were pools of molten magma, and when it opened its mouth, the flame came roaring out in a hot jet. She could hear it singing to her. She opened her arms to the fire, embraced it, let it swallow her whole, let it cleanse her and temper her and scour her clean. She could feel her flesh sear and blacken and slough away, could feel her blood boil and turn to steam, and yet there was no pain. She felt strong and new and fierce."- Daenerys III AGOT But even if she does, that kid could very well be sacrificed. The story is replete with child sacrifice after all. 4) Sure and this is why Robert Arryn is probably gonna live through the show. 5) I don't think Arya will die either but the outline is about the POVs and who will be consistently present through all 3 volumes not who survives the story's end. I mean Bran's pretty much dead already for instance. Not to mention that GRRM has said that his outline was bs(which may or may not be true). 6) Yes, Arya could hook up with someone else and have kids but if her future is with Gendry like a lot of people believe then it doesn't really matter. The only scenario where I can see Arya continuing the Stark line and ruling is if Sansa is bumped up to queen of Westeros or if Sansa gives the North to her so she can go rule the Riverlands or something (but that's a long shot). 7) You'd have to kill Arya and Sansa if you want Jon's kids to inherit. You don't think Arya is going to die so I don't see why Jon's kids would get the North and I don't think the show nor the books are going to jump that far forward in the future. I've thought that it could happen before but i don't see it anymore. 8) Tyrion would be the Lord of the Westerlands. I'm sure there'll be some low nobility daughters that could marry him for favors and to have such a powerful son-in-law not to mention that Tyrion could always just pop out a bastard and have the ruling King/Queen legitimize him. 9) Karstarks are Starks. And many Stark descendants have the Stark look as well. There's also people like Waymar Royce who is implied to look like Jon Snow. I don't actually think Sansa has to marry some Stark-looking dude. I'm fine with the Starks look like Tullys. Besides, I think it's much more interesting if the Targaryens look like Starks and the Starks look like Tullys.
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    Theon's bastard

    Aeron's dead-dead. His next chapter is likely his last/ I think if Euron is beaten it's because he's killed and the Iron Islands is left in a vacuum. At that point, why wouldn't Asha just decide to rule herself? They don't really need Theon at that point.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    1) It's never said that outline Sansa was murdered. 2) We don't know if her child was actually killed: 3) The Targaryen line may not continue and if it does there's a chance that the kid may look like a Stark. You're jumping to too many assumptions. 4) Sansa's likely going to have a kid with Harry the Heir. Someone's gotta inherit with Robert Arryn out of the way and Harry's got slim chances to survive the series. 5) The show's kinda pointing and saying that Arya won't become a lady and can't be tamed. 6) If Arya hooks up with Gendry like so many believes then the Stark look ends with her anyways. The seed is strong. 7) GRRM's not going to extinguish Ned and Catelyn's line so Jon can inherit. Jon's own ancestors won't even accept him as a Stark. 8) Sad to say but it seems Tyrion will continue Tywin's line. Unless his dick is gonna turn to stone. 9) Sansa can marry a Karstark if the Stark look has to continue. Perhaps Harrion if he survives. 10) I don't think GRRM wants to punish Cat for not being affectionate enough to Jon Snow.
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    Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

    Personally, I don't think Arya is going to do any ruling by the end of the series. Cogman said she can't be domesticated and that's foreshadowing for her endgame.
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