Hypnomagica Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Jon Snow is one of my favorite characters in the entire series but I think there is a decent and oft ignored argument that the series itself would actually benefit from his simply being killed off.On the one hand, it would confuse and infuriate many people who consider him one of, if not THE, main hero in the story but it would also allow the story to go down a path I think most people would never suspect.So my question is what are some positive outcomes the death of Jon Snow might bring to the story, and what do you think it would ultimately change? If anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danzie Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I see what you did there...well played. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Haha. I see you took Ser Creighton's advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 In the off chance he died... the advantages are rares... maybe tormund will not go to Hardhome and not die there for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boarsbane Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The Night's Watch gets a LC who doesn't plan on breaking his vows and deserting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterJack Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The Night's Watch gets a LC who doesn't plan on breaking his vows and deserting. that is false, this is not deserting if you intent to comeback :D. But he was indeed breaking some vows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMR Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 LOL, you actually did it. Good riddance, no one will miss you, crow! On a serious note, I think that now that many know about R+L=J, the series would benefit from Jon's death, but I think Martin already said that he will not change the plot just because some readers have guessed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaleTheGuard Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So, just to be perfectly clear, when you decided to use the thread title "Why Jon Snow sucks and why I am glad he is dead.", you never had any intention of explaining why Jon Snow sucks and why you're glad he's dead in your first post, did you? You did that just to make people click on the link? Right. I'm glad you're so mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosts in winterfell Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I'm not sure if any positive outcomes could even come from it. What purpose would eliminating him serve? He's been a main POV throughout the series, all of that build up for a character that was just going to be offed would have been quite pointless, wouldn't it? Sure, Ned & Cat were main POVs for a time, but their deaths had a specific function in the overall plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Bean Corbray Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 On a serious note, I think that now that many know about R+L=J, the series would benefit from Jon's death, but I think Martin already said that he will not change the plot just because some readers have guessed it. Nor should he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Ravens Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Misleading thread title is misleading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frances Bean Corbray Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I'm not sure if any positive outcomes could even come from it. What purpose would eliminating him serve? What makes you think Jon being dead eliminates him from the narrative :) The former does not ensure the latter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajk Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Jon is the main POV character in the North. He has been carrying the Northern narrative as well as the narrative at the wall. He has, consequently been the main Stark narrative for a while too now. All the Stark plots become harder to work with if he is dead. he is after all the only Stark who is still known to be alive and whose whereabouts are known. And a whole lot of prophesy/foreshadowing etc. becomes hard to make sense of.The only benefit would be shock value and that would be small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Haha. I see you took Ser Creighton's advice.No! Dear god don't point that finger at me. I really got to stop throwing titles out there, this is like the 10th time this has happened. Although last time it turned into a thread all about sex with perhaps the greatest single post in board history, How to give a man a proper ........... fill the blank in intricate detail. I gave the post to my GF and was like see that's how your suppose to do it. Well she was my GF. God that was a good thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minstral Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 So, just to be perfectly clear, when you decided to use the thread title "Why Jon Snow sucks and why I am glad he is dead.", you never had any intention of explaining why Jon Snow sucks and why you're glad he's dead in your first post, did you? You did that just to make people click on the link? Right. I'm glad you're so mature. I think you missed the point.... ...uhhh, Stark succesion is cleared up perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I'm not sure if any positive outcomes could even come from it. What purpose would eliminating him serve? He's been a main POV throughout the series, all of that build up for a character that was just going to be offed would have been quite pointless, wouldn't it? Sure, Ned & Cat were main POVs for a time, but their deaths had a specific function in the overall plot.Oh yeah remember when you started a thread after I tossed out a comment about Twilight. That thread was awesome. Courses on B?'s the multi color penis conversation, nothing but good came from that thread, nothing but good. E-Ro is still confused but happy about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaysodope Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I can't think of a single advantage to him dying. His death I feel would be so anticlimactic it would actually weaken the overall story and leave it with a giant hole to fill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooseman Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 If he's really just dead and wouldn't come back it would lessen the story. It would mean, that we could stop analyzing all the possible foreshadowing, because there's a good chance it'll lead to nothing. If he came back and became Azor Ahai Reborn or Lightbringer or The Prince that Was Promised, but AAR or LB or TPWPW was actually something darker than the white hero everyone's associating with the prophecies, now that would be a more interesting twist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghosts in winterfell Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 What makes you think Jon being dead eliminates him from the narrative :) The former does not ensure the latter Eh true, but who (in-story) actually cares enough about him/the Wall for it to have an effect on them, outside of a handful of characters? Oh yeah remember when you started a thread after I tossed out a comment about Twilight. That thread was awesome. Courses on BJ's the multi color penis conversation, nothing but good came from that thread, nothing but good. E-Ro is still confused but happy about it. Lol of all the comparisons to make... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Creighton Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Eh true, but who (in-story) actually cares enough about him/the Wall for it to have an effect on them, outside of a handful of characters? Lol of all the comparisons to make...Well how do you think this got started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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