Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 I dont think Erikson understands the immortality system :P Um, I thought kruppe reveals him self in book 1... It's been a while. Read these as they came ot in the US.He reveals himself as being the eel in darujihstan. But, I'm thinking he's a whole lot more than a master spy. And in MoI, many characters have the same feeling. But, he never comes out and states anything. I could be wrong, just a feeling I get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowborn Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Yeah I'm staying away from the reread discussion. I've heard it's laden with spoilers. I just finished MoI, does anyone know of any interviews that SE had after it was published? I'd say you can go to the reread threads safely, once you've finished each book. I don't think there's anything in the MoI discussion, for example, that would spoil things from HoC. This is an interview from 2001, the year MoI was published, but he doesn't talk about the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 I went and signed up at malazanempire. But, I need to stay away from it, its too damn tempting. But, the mods are actually really good about spoilers. Its just I can't resist touching the spoiler tags, Lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghjhero Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 So I've recently finished MoI and I have a question regarding events at the climax, so you've been warned don't open this spoiler tag if you havnt finished MoI!!! What exactly happened with Itkovian and the T'lan Imass? He took away their suffering, but that's about all I was able to understand. I'm pretty confused. Did he somehow make them mortal again and release them from the bonds of the first ritual? I'm pretty lost. And how is Kilvana still alive if she didn't take part in the ritual? I thought that the Imass were just regular mortals and lived regular lifespans which is why they did the ritual. So how is she still kicking? Does it have to do with her being a Soletaken? And if so are all Soletaken immortal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Keep reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghjhero Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Haha ok thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ghjhero, Itkovian, took their suffering and grief, as he can do with anyone who allow it (via the reve). Siverfox is the only one who can release the T'lan Imass from the ritual, like she did with Tool. As for kilvava, I have no clue to the rules one soletaken, ascendants and such. I just finished also, and that's what I got from it. Hopes it helps ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted March 25, 2014 Author Share Posted March 25, 2014 Also, Siverfox, kruppe and k'rul created the dreamworld for the Mybhe and the T'lan Imass. And I believe it was agreed upon by them and silver fox that they are gonna help their kin on Assail. After that she will release them from the ritual and the dreamworld is where they will go. You know cause they shunned their gods when taking part in the ritual. They was only expecting oblivion. But, now they know they have a place in the afterworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 So I've recently finished MoI and I have a question regarding events at the climax, so you've been warned don't open this spoiler tag if you havnt finished MoI!!! What exactly happened with Itkovian and the T'lan Imass? He took away their suffering, but that's about all I was able to understand. I'm pretty confused. Did he somehow make them mortal again and release them from the bonds of the first ritual? I'm pretty lost.And how is Kilvana still alive if she didn't take part in the ritual? I thought that the Imass were just regular mortals and lived regular lifespans which is why they did the ritual. So how is she still kicking? Does it have to do with her being a Soletaken? And if so are all Soletaken immortal? Some good thoughts on the acts of Itkovian are as follows. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/06/malazan-re-read-of-the-fallen-memories-of-ice-chapter-25-part-3-and-epilogue and http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/06/malazan-re-read-of-the-fallen-memories-of-ice-chapter-25-part-2 and http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/06/malazan-re-read-of-the-fallen-memories-of-ice-chapter-25-part-1 While somewhat mystical, the Itkovian story is one of the really excellent plot lines in TMBOTF for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghjhero Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Ok thanks. I've just started HoC and read the prologue. At the rate you're reading you'll pass me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The Mhybe was the worst storyline of the series.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 The Mhybe was the worst storyline of the series....I've only finished MoI but man I hope your right! Because for as good as that book was.......the Mhybe was brutal reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghjhero Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Ugg yes I skimmed most of her parts once I figured out it wasn't going anywhere. The only cool part was when she was brought to Hood's temple and we met who I think is Dassem Ultor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 That's who I thought it was too.....but, that's the reason I'm staying away from malazanempire.com. I posted a question on the reading order of the books. But, I can't go back there, its too damn tempting to hit the spoilers. I can't help myself. Alas, I won't spoil it for ya. I'm still a little pissed about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrum Aeternum Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I am struggling through House of Chains right now. It's not that the book is completely terrible. Actually there are some interesting bits, for instance I really want to know what the hell is up with Heboric's "Jade Giant" buried in that mass of otataral dust. As cool as that damn thing is, there'd better be some significance to it. As usual with Erikson, a fascinating idea or two is derailed by tedious dialogue between soldiers and/or other characters I don't give a damn about, or some long winded chapter about such-and-such opening up this-or-that warren and doing some shit that doesn't seem to matter at all. If he would just stick to his big ideas and interesting characters these books would be so much better IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I am struggling through House of Chains right now. It's not that the book is completely terrible. Actually there are some interesting bits, for instance I really want to know what the hell is up with Heboric's "Jade Giant" buried in that mass of otataral dust. As cool as that damn thing is, there'd better be some significance to it. As usual with Erikson, a fascinating idea or two is derailed by tedious dialogue between soldiers and/or other characters I don't give a damn about, or some long winded chapter about such-and-such opening up this-or-that warren and doing some shit that doesn't seem to matter at all. If he would just stick to his big ideas and interesting characters these books would be so much better IMO. House of Chains does drag a bit compared to the other books in the first half of the series, it has too much build-up to the ending and although the ending was reasonably good I didn't think it was good enough to justify all that had come before. I think it's the weakest of the first five by some distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrum Aeternum Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 House of Chains does drag a bit compared to the other books in the first half of the series, it has too much build-up to the ending and although the ending was reasonably good I didn't think it was good enough to justify all that had come before. I think it's the weakest of the first five by some distance. OK, that makes me feel a bit better. I loved Karsa's story at the beginning, but my progress has slowed to a trickle since then. I'll keep plugging along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 House of Chains does drag a bit compared to the other books in the first half of the series, it has too much build-up to the ending and although the ending was reasonably good I didn't think it was good enough to justify all that had come before. I think it's the weakest of the first five by some distance.So is the second half if the series better? Or what's your opinion. I'm also on HoC, there are certain times you have to push yourself through. But, overall it's been a great ride. Does the books get better or do they go downhill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Pie Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I've only finished MoI but man I hope your right! Because for as good as that book was.......the Mhybe was brutal reading. Well there are a few other storyline which annoy people but overall that was by far the worst for me. I'm on dod now and that's the worst so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 So is the second half if the series better? Or what's your opinion. I'm also on HoC, there are certain times you have to push yourself through. But, overall it's been a great ride. Does the books get better or do they go downhill? IMO they go downhill, big time. I loved the first 5 novels but I gave up after Book 9 since it become a chore to read in the last few volumes, a few great moments buried among stuff I couldn't care less about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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