mindchap Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 What? :stunned: can you provide the source please? You can find the info HERE It's from a reading at one of the cons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 You can find the info HERE It's from a reading at one of the consYep, that's the one.Though I find it a little strange that he Great Council would be mentioned in a reading about the Westerlands.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Why does the Vale go to another house (Hardyng) in the event of Robert's death instead of the Arryns of Gulltown? Despite being a cadet branch they are still probably the closest relations left. I can see them as being close than the Karstarks to Starks but perhaps not Lannisters of Lanisport closer to their respective main branches. I mean they say the Arryn's of Gulltown aren't held in high respect but still, it doesn't seen like they should be passed over.Harry the Heir descends from the sister of Jon Arryn. Closer related than the Arryns of Gulltown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnivil Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Varys' master sold him to that wizard in Myr, so a slave was sold => slavery :) it is forbidden in Pentos because of their treaty with Braavos (so either Dany is ignorant or she knows more about the real practice...). However, because it was emphasized that it is forbidden in Pentos, it seems that it is allowed in the other free cities (except Braavos).It's in the first Daenerys chapter, I don't have the book to hand but it's something like "Slavery was forbidden in the free city of Pentos, but they were still slaves." (in reference to the two servant girls who were helping her wash and dress). So yeah, she does know how it really works there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Here's a question: from what I've seen, dragons seem to be mentioned in the lore of people older than the time of Aegon's conquest (when the first Targ dragons were brought to Westeros). Did dragons live around the world (feral dragons that is), before the Valyrians tamed them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Of Winter Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Here's a question: from what I've seen, dragons seem to be mentioned in the lore of people older than the time of Aegon's conquest (when the first Targ dragons were brought to Westeros). Did dragons live around the world (feral dragons that is), before the Valyrians tamed them? I can't recall the source right now, but I'm pretty sure that you're right. Feral dragons roamed around the world, and Valyrians were the only ones that managed to tame them and used them in their conquests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Here's a question: from what I've seen, dragons seem to be mentioned in the lore of people older than the time of Aegon's conquest (when the first Targ dragons were brought to Westeros). Did dragons live around the world (feral dragons that is), before the Valyrians tamed them? GRRM once said dragons used to live all over the world. That could explain it :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bori Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 It's in the first Daenerys chapter, I don't have the book to hand but it's something like "Slavery was forbidden in the free city of Pentos, but they were still slaves." (in reference to the two servant girls who were helping her wash and dress). So yeah, she does know how it really works there. Sorry, this comment was meant to be sarcastic, I just don't know the appropriate font type to express it :blush: . Of course Dany knew about the reality in Pentos, witnessing firsthand Illyrio's dealings with the dothraki (e.g. "gifting" and "re-gifting" Irri and Jhiqui). Here's a question: from what I've seen, dragons seem to be mentioned in the lore of people older than the time of Aegon's conquest (when the first Targ dragons were brought to Westeros). Did dragons live around the world (feral dragons that is), before the Valyrians tamed them? Yes, there were dragons all over the world, once (based on this SSM). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 What? :stunned:can you provide the source please?The WOIAF Westerlands Reading at ConCarolinas. History of Westeros have dine a spectacular write up :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 Is that Dragonbinder on the cover of Wind's of Winter that someone recently added to the wiki? http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/File:Winds_of_winter.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Is that Dragonbinder on the cover of Wind's of Winter that someone recently added to the wiki? http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/File:Winds_of_winter.jpg Maybe, I always pictured Dragonbinder as bigger though. WoW Spoiler: We know it gets used in WoW so maybe that is supposed to be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 That cover art has been around for a while now, I think its just something done by fans? So its most likely fan interpretation of the Dragonbinder or Horn of Winter. I eould suggest the latter, given the title.of the novel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Is that Dragonbinder on the cover of Wind's of Winter that someone recently added to the wiki? http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/File:Winds_of_winter.jpgSo we've got a cover.. what does this mean?Is it something official?ETA:never mind :P Helena posted it as I was typing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 So we've got a cover.. what does this mean? Nothing, that "cover" has been around for at least a few months, probably.longer (I found it when I googled winds of winter to look for the summaries of chapters back in January). Sorry to dampen your hopes :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 Oh is it fan made? The guy who uploaded it included this link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09/read-winds-of-winter-_n_2441002.html That makes it seem like it's supposed to be official? I guess the author could have been duped. If it's not real it probably shouldn't be on the wiki as the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Hmm, didn't know it came from there as a source. Is that source known to.be reliable? Just it certainly.doesn't look very official for the cover, and the article is quite dated now anyway as it talks about releasing the Arriane sample...wouldn't the wiki already have been updated if George had revealed the cover art of Winds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 I think if there's official cover art, it will be on George's site and/or Westeros.org in no time.If this has been on the internet for a while, I doubt it's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazfemur Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 lmao, shot in the dark but, Ser Gerold Dayne's parents? (it has to be a male Dayne, with a female mystery greater house) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 lmao, shot in the dark but, Ser Gerold Dayne's parents? (it has to be a male Dayne, with a female mystery greater house)not necessarily. Since it's Dorne, IIRC when there is only a female heir, the child takes her last name, and not the name of the father, to keep the seat in the family.Look at the Martells. Dorans mother was a Martell by birth, yet her children kept her name, not the name of her husband.Ser Gerolds parents are unknown, currently. As in: we know absolutely nothing about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlaw's Book the Sequel Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Do the books say that Val stole Jarl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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