Winds of Winter blow cold Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Could someone please tell me what the Theon Durden theory is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboJed Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Could someone please tell me what the Theon Durden theory is? It's the theory that the Hooded Man of Winterfell is actually a split personality of Theon's, and that Theon (whilst under the control of that personality) is the one who has been going around killing people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Could someone please tell me what the Theon Durden theory is? Have you ever seen Fight Club? Theon Durden would be like Tyler Durden; a split personality born of mental disorder. Theon would be the one killing the guys, but the actual Theon woudln't remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J = 9.5 The Great Northern Conspiracy = 7fAegon is a Blackfyre = 6Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs = 4Tyrion is a secret Targ = 5Varys is a Blackfyre = 4 (Brightflame is more likely)Coldhands is the Night's King = 7Gravedigging Hound = 10Robet Strong is the Mountain = 8Jojen Paste = 1 (app debunked this AFAIK)The Green Grace is the Harpy = 8Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne = 2Missaindei is a Faceless Man = sadly, 6Oberyn poisoned Tywin = 8Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North = 2Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon = 10The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom = 8Theon Durden = 7Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree = 9Alleras = Sarella = 10Howland Reed = the High Sparrow = 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J - 10 (I pretty much consider it canon at this point)The Great Northern Conspiracy - 5fAegon is a Blackfyre - 8Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 0Tyrion is a secret Targ - 0Varys is a Blackfyre - 3 (never even heard of this)Coldhands is the Night's King - 1Gravedigging Hound - 9Robet Strong is the Mountain - 10Jojen Paste - 2The Green Grace is the Harpy - 5Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 1Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 2Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 9Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 1Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 5The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - (no clue)Theon Durden - 1Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 5Alleras = Sarella - 9Howland Reed = the High Sparrow - 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Havinfun Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 R+L=J 8The Great Northern Conspiracy 7fAegon is a Blackfyre 8Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs 6Tyrion is a secret Targ 8Varys is a Blackfyre 7Coldhands is the Night's King 0Gravedigging Hound 10Robert Strong is the Mountain 10Jojen Paste 0The Green Grace is the Harpy 4Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne 2Missaindei is a Faceless Man 0Oberyn poisoned Tywin 3Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North 1Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon 1The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom 0Theon Durden 7Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree 9Alleras = Sarella 10 Howland Reed = the High Sparrow 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Havinfun Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Jojen Paste : 6 This theory gained some strength after S04 of the show... :( How is that possible? Show!Jojen got killed with Leaf's fireball before they ever got into the cave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Have you ever seen Fight Club? Theon Durden would be like Tyler Durden; a split personality born of mental disorder. Theon would be the one killing the guys, but the actual Theon woudln't remember it. Oh, I was thinking about the shorter version. Theon imagined the Hooded Man and that should be it. I don't think Theon is killing anyone. I'd have to rate that lower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 How is that possible? Show!Jojen got killed with Leaf's fireball before they ever got into the cave! It's the fact that he's dead, not how he died. The fact that he's dead means he'll probably die in the books (something we pretty much knew), but it adds consistency to the Jojen Paste theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greg of House House Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 How is that possible? Show!Jojen got killed with Leaf's fireball before they ever got into the cave! If Jojen got killed before he went into the cave I think it does help Jojenpaste. D&D would never make a child eat his friend on TV. The fact that they come up with a totally random a different death makes me think they're replacing a death that they would rather not show. But of course, it doesn't prove anything. They've changed stuff before. ps. CoTF are shooting fireballs? Really? Where can I find a pic of CoTF on the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingelheim Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Oh, I was thinking about the shorter version. Theon imagined the Hooded Man and that should be it. I don't think Theon is killing anyone. I'd have to rate that lower... Yeah, it's pretty much the two of them combined. The complete theory would be: -The Hooded Man doesn't exist. It's some kind of Tyler Durden. Theon is the only one who saw him. -Theon IS, in fact, the one killing them. And he doesn't remember that because of his mental disorder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Havinfun Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 It's the fact that he's dead, not how he died. The fact that he's dead means he'll probably die in the books (something we pretty much knew), but it adds consistency to the Jojen Paste theory. Ick... beurre manié might add a bit of consistency to Jojen paste, but not random fireballs. :ack: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arya Havinfun Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 If Jojen got killed before he went into the cave I think it does help Jojenpaste. D&D would never make a child eat his friend on TV. The fact that they come up with a totally random a different death makes me think they're replacing a death that they would rather not show. But of course, it doesn't prove anything. They've changed stuff before. ps. CoTF are shooting fireballs? Really? Where can I find a pic of CoTF on the show? Don't have a still shot, but here's a link to video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijN_IHNbaMI and I was wrong about Jojen being killed by a fireball, he was given 'mercy' by Meera because he couldn't escape the attacking wights who had already disabled him. The fireball was used to keep him from rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahood Witout Manners Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 R+L=J - 10The Great Northern Conspiracy - 9fAegon is a Blackfyre - 5 ( I'm using 5 as "I have no bleeping idea. Could go either way".)Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs - 2Tyrion is a secret Targ - 2 Varys is a Blackfyre - 9 Coldhands is the Night's King - 5Gravedigging Hound - 9. Just makes sense.Robet Strong is the Mountain - 10Jojen Paste - 9 (You can't tell me the show didn't make this just a bit more plausible. I know show is not cannon, but c'mon.)The Green Grace is the Harpy - I DONT CARESepta Lemore is Ashara Dayne - 5Missaindei is a Faceless Man - 5 (I'd love for this to be true.)Oberyn poisoned Tywin - 5 (I hope so)Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North - 9 (Fo shizzle)Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon - 9 (But does it really matter??)The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom - 2 (Just not enough evidence.)Theon Durden - 10Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree - 5 (Can't wait to find out)Alleras = Sarella - 8 (Probs) Lots of 5s... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoravar Singh Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 R+L=J=9The Great Northern Conspiracy=7fAegon is a Blackfyre=3 ( although 5 for f Aegon is a fake)Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs=0Tyrion is a secret Targ=1Varys is a Blackfyre=2Coldhands is the Night's King=3Gravedigging Hound=9Robet Strong is the Mountain=8Jojen Paste=Never heard of itThe Green Grace is the Harpy=7Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne=4Missaindei is a Faceless Man=4Oberyn poisoned Tywin=6Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North=0Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon=9The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom=6Theon Durden=Never heardLyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree=4Alleras = Sarella =9Howland Reed = the High Sparrow =6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearclaw Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 R+L=J= 10The Great Northern Conspiracy= 3fAegon is a Blackfyre= 2 (don't really care)Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs= 0Tyrion is a secret Targ= 1Varys is a Blackfyre= 1Coldhands is the Night's King= 1Gravedigging Hound= 5 (I hope not)Robet Strong is the Mountain= 10Jojen Paste= 1The Green Grace is the Harpy= 4Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne= 1Missaindei is a Faceless Man= 1 (isn't she 8 years old? Who was her target? Dany took her on an impulse)Oberyn poisoned Tywin= 7Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North= 2Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon= 7The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom= 2Theon Durden= 1Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree= 6Alleras = Sarella = 9Howland Reed = the High Sparrow = 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword of the Morgan Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 R+L=J = 9The Great Northern Conspiracy = 7fAegon is a Blackfyre = 8Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs = 2Tyrion is a secret Targ = 2Varys is a Blackfyre = 1Coldhands is the Night's King = 1Gravedigging Hound = 10Robet Strong is the Mountain = 9Jojen Paste = 1The Green Grace is the Harpy = 4Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne = 3Missaindei is a Faceless Man = 1Oberyn poisoned Tywin = 5Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North = 1Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon = 10The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom = 9Theon Durden = 3Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree = 3Alleras = Sarella = 10Howland Reed High Septon = 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds of Winter blow cold Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 It's the theory that the Hooded Man of Winterfell is actually a split personality of Theon's, and that Theon (whilst under the control of that personality) is the one who has been going around killing people. Have you ever seen Fight Club? Theon Durden would be like Tyler Durden; a split personality born of mental disorder. Theon would be the one killing the guys, but the actual Theon woudln't remember it. Crap! Give it a big fat ZERO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bent branch Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 R+L=J: 10 The Great Northern Conspiracy: 5, although it's hard to give this any kind of score since it seems GNC means different things to different people. fAegon is a Blackfyre: 2 Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs:2 Tyrion is a secret Targ: 8 Varys is a Blackfyre: 1, if Varys is anything he is a Targaryen. Coldhands is the Night's King: 1 Gravedigging Hound: 10 Robet Strong is the Mountain: 10 Jojen Paste: 2 The Green Grace is the Harpy: 5, if the Harpy is an actual single person rather than a group of people, then it is most probably the Green Grace. Septa Lemore is Ashara Dayne: 9, I believe all the people surrounding Aegon with be proven Targaryen loyalists. Ashara is the best woman for this. Missaindei is a Faceless Man: 1 Oberyn poisoned Tywin: 1, how would this ever be proven? Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North: 2, if she is, then she is dead. Euron hired a Faceless Man to kill Balon: 10 The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom: 1, how would this impact the story we are currently being told? Theon Durden: 1, there is no way this could ever be revealed so it is not what happened. Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing Tree: 10 Alleras = Sarella: 10 Howland Reed = the High Sparrow: 1, I attribute this one to people being bored waiting for the next book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippocras Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 9.9999:R+L=JEuron hired a Faceless Man to kill BalonAlleras = Sarella Gravedigging HoundRobet Strong is the Mountain8 (very modest doubts):Lyanna was the Knight of the Laughing TreefAegon is a Blackfyre6-7 (good theories with a few holes):The Great Northern ConspiracyTyrion is a secret TargThe Green Grace is the HarpySepta Lemore is Ashara DayneVarys is a Blackfyre4-5 (sure, I suppose it is possible):Cersei and Jaime are secret Targs (only if Tyrion is, from common ancestor: Plumm?)Missaindei is a Faceless Man (not yet, but like Pate, it is a future possibility)The Faceless Men are responsible for the Doom (it's more likely IMO that dragon wars are)1-2 (I think it's completely ridiculous):Coldhands is the Night's KingJojen Paste (the paste was weirwood paste, nothing else)Oberyn poisoned Tywin (Doran said he wanted to destroy everything Tywin held dear before killing him, so poisoning him right then would not serve the Dornish purpose)Jeyne is pregnant with the heir to the North (we were specifically told that she was given Moon tea and told it was something to help her conceive when it was actually to block her from conceiving. So she can't be pregnant)Theon Durden (why?)Howland Reed = the High Sparrow (why?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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