Littlefingers In The Air Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/soldier-shot-near-canadas-parliament-shooter-at-large/ar-BBaBLKKOTTAWA, Oct 22 (Reuters) - A gunman shot a soldier at the Canadian War Memorial in Ottawa and was then chased by police into the main parliament building, where at least 30 more shots were fired, according to media and eyewitness reports on Wednesday.Parliament was locked down and Prime Minister Stephen Harper had left the building safely as police converged on the area.Following the CNN news reports, there are possibly two shooters free and one dead. There is one soldier dead and one civilian believed dead. Footage from the sceneEta: Peter Henderson, a Canadian journalist, says one witness told him that he saw the gunmen put a rifle to a soldiers back and fire four shots. This witness says it seemed like the soldier was targeted.Eta2: authorities are saying there was only one shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jslay427 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Guess it's not just in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 A guy in Quebec who had been "radicalized" last week ran down two soldiers in his car killing one. Pity that people are so messed up to do such things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 That's been mentioned in the news coverage I'm watching. They mentioned something about the terror threat level being raised to medium. Is that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 That's been mentioned in the news coverage I'm watching. They mentioned something about the terror threat level being raise to medium. Is that right? Yes. Apparently our security services had identified some chatter that was deemed a viable threat. Perhaps it had to do with what is now taking place. We have 90 people on a watch list, the now deceased guy in Quebec was one of them. Perhaps these three were on the list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Yes. Apparently our security services had identified some chatter that was deemed a viable threat. Perhaps it had to do with what is now taking place. We have 90 people on a watch list, the now deceased guy in Quebec was one of them. Perhaps these three were on the list as well. I suppose we'll be able to gather what's going on from identifying the dead gunmen and figuring out what happened. Why would radicals want to attack Canada, though? Separatist agenda to kill who they can manage to kill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The guy in Quebec went on about Canada's role in confronting ISIL in Iraq. That seems to have been his motivation. Hard to say as of right now but I would not be surprised that such is the case for this attack as well. And yesterday is when our fighter jets headed to the gulf to join in the bombing campaign. It may be a coincidence but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Damn. Prayers and warm thoughts to everyone in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 An MP has tweeted that the man killed was killed outside the NDP caucus room to keep the shooter out. He was killed they say by the sergeant at arms and the MP tweeted that they owe their life to the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Wow. Were we really that close to an absolute disaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Reports are saying that the man killed gave no indication he was a supporter of violent extremism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 I'm right that this appears to be a coordinated attack not the action of a random shooter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Correct. Reports have confirmed there have been shootings at three different locations and that there are definitely three shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 No. There are two confirmed shooters, one is dead. The soldier shot at the War Memorial has not been declared dead, no matter how much NYT and WaPo seem to want him to be. Downtown on lockdown. Parliament cleared. Door to door searches for the second gunman.Three shooting scenes:War MemorialCentre BlockRideau CentreI have friends all over the downtown core. Just, awful. I also spent half an hour thinking my sister was there only to find her office had moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share Posted October 22, 2014 Thanks for clearing that up. CNN just went back on what they said earlier, and now are saying there are just two confirmed shooters. They're also saying the Canadian embassy in Washington is now locked down as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Maybe read a Canadian news source for breaking Canadian news?www.cbc.cawww.ctvnews.cawww.ottawacitizen.comwww.globeandmail.comwww.nationalpost.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Years ago there was a group of young men in the process of being radicalized who got together in the woods to train. The plan was to attack the Parliament buildings, capture PM Stephen Harper and behead him. The government has been aware that our Parliament buildings have been a target for almost a decade now. The shooting at the War Memorial was easy, the honour guard are obviously just sitting ducks, standing on guard in honour of the dead. The idea that someone would shoot a soldier there is just disgusting. But the fact the shooter, carrying a long gun of some kind, got into Parliament and into the Great Hall, right outside the rooms where on either side the entire government was meeting in caucus and on the other side the Opposition was meeting in caucus, without being stopped, suggests a level of gross incompetence that is beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kairparavel Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 And now it is confirmed that the soldier has died. Damnit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 The toll: 2 dead, one soldier, one shooter. 2 injured: a Parliamentary guard, shot in the leg, maybe by the shooter, maybe by a ricochet off the stone walls in the hall, and, apparently, a bystander injured by a ricochet at the War Memorial. The Police Chief is just now in a press conference asking for people to stay out of the downtown area, and has called for witnesses to the events to call in with their reports. No other new details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angalin Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Bilingual press conference with not a lot of concrete info as to who the shooter(s) might be. Three shooting scenes:War MemorialCentre BlockRideau CentreI have friends all over the downtown core. Just, awful. I also spent half an hour thinking my sister was there only to find her office had moved.Everybody I've heard from is in lockdown, although I think they've let up on Rideau Centre. Weirdly, it sounds like my sister was in a better security situation in Afghanistan when at least they had a bunker to hide in. The guy who went into the Centre Block practically had free range access at the beginning. CBC just played a recording made by Josh Wingrove of the G&M inside the Centre Block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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