James Arryn Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The Eyrie is impossible to assault, but is pretty easy to submit. Once you get the Gates of the Moon you just need to sit and wait.The premise is that you are already cut off and besieged.Any and every fortress will surrender to time eventually. I have no idea where the idea that because this is true of a supposedly invulnerable fortress (Eyrie) it's especially true of same; it's not.In fact, The Eyrie can be safely manned by very few men, but has granaries the size of Winterfell's and access to running water. It can hold out better than any fortress we know of under siege.And in the meanwhile, the besiegers are living on narrow dangerous mountain paths and ledges in all kinds of weather, and having to carry all supplies up same on a constant basis. I'll take the Eyrie quite comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonSnow4President Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Depends on my men and the invading forces. If we're speaking of a general army than I would go with either Storm's End or The Dreadfort. Winterfell would be a good choice but it is to vulnerable from the south. Moat Cailin as well but then again no retreating point in case your forces get pummeled. Who knows? Pray tell, how is Winterfell vulnerable from the south? Not remembering any deficiencies in its defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Storm's End Bring on your storm, my lord, and recall, if you do, the name of this castle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid So Fair Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The Eyrie. I'm lazy. Doesn't Tyrion think about how he would take the Eyrie at one point? It seems that a sufficiently large and determined force (ie. you are prepared to lose a large chunk of it) could storm the Eyrie. Or you could try to hire a few wildlings to climb it from the other side and set the granary on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Doesn't Tyrion think about how he would take the Eyrie at one point? It seems that a sufficiently large and determined force (ie. you are prepared to lose a large chunk of it) could storm the Eyrie. Or you could try to hire a few wildlings to climb it from the other side and set the granary on fire.No, tv show/Bronn. Tyrion/Books calls it impregnable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tony of House Stark Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 in the show not sure about the books, Bronn says with a few good men and some climbing spikes ill impregnate the bitch. we know the Free Folk can scale the Wall, the Eyrie could be taken through tactics like theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 in the show not sure about the books, Bronn says with a few good men and some climbing spikes ill impregnate the bitch. we know the Free Folk can scale the Wall, the Eyrie could be taken through tactics like theirs.The Wall is only vulnerable to that because it's so long parts can go un-patrolled, but if a patrol sees the climbers they're fucked. The Eyrie is always patrolled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tony of House Stark Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 good call. i would bet there is a blind spot somewhere though where a small raiding party could infiltrate and destroy from within. burning granaries, poisoning water, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Pray tell, how is Winterfell vulnerable from the south? Not remembering any deficiencies in its defenses. Letting Ser Rodrik see to the defenses is definitely a deficiency. However WF does not have any pointed out weakness from the south. Maybe they were thinking of the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kompaya Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Well, I'd go for the red keep and make sure to know the hidden passages on forehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathYon Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Moat Cailin or Greywater Watch.Winterfell during the winter would be good too.Wouldn't Oldtown be easy to defend during autumn because of the storms?The Eyrie would also be another great fortress, but I'd hate to be up so high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Tony of House Stark Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 but its in KL and if you're locked up in your holdfast, the enemy is slowly turning half million people against you and they are prone to rioting at the gates and in the streets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Well, I'd go for the red keep and make sure to know the hidden passages on forehand.The problem with hidden passages isn't so much what YOU know about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowborn Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 I would say the Eyrie. It is impossible to assault and can be held by only a few men, meaning my food stores will last longer. Patroling the walls should be enough to protect from climbers as well. The Wall is 700 feet at its highest, the Eyrie is several thousand feet over the ground. But then I remember that the Eyrie is basically uninhabitable during winter. In the premise I don't know how long I'll be besieged so even though it's not winter at the start I can't be sure it won't come before the siege is done. If you don't know how long you will be there, the Eyrie is a big no. It is also impossible to sneak out and escape.My second idea was Winterfell, with the possibilities of growing more food inside. However, while Winterfell is certainly very strong I don't know how susceptible it is for long sieges when the enemies have time and resources to constuct large siege weapons. Is it strong enough to stand against that?So in the end I would say Storm's End or Casterly Rock, and from them probably SE as we've seen that and know more about it. CR is more unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyrinLannister Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Eyrie if it counts. Harrenhall if it doesn't. The whole point of Harrenhall was that it was pretty much impregnable from ground attacks. Then the dragons arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trickrs Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 In fact, The Eyrie can be safely manned by very few men, but has granaries the size of Winterfell's Source? Because the Eyrie is the smallest of the Great House castles according to AWOIAF and others. And the Eyrie weakness was showed by the Lords Declarants, it can't endure a long siege. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Depends on the attacker. If they are from another region, Winterfell. Keeping up a siege with supply lines 2,000 miles through the Neck? If from close by, Storms End. The Rock would be another choice, but we don't know enough of it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Wolf Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Winterfell of the Eyrie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Source? Because the Eyrie is the smallest of the Great House castles according to AWOIAF and others. And the Eyrie weakness was showed by the Lords Declarants, it can't endure a long siege. From GoT, chapter 34, Catelyn . It had no need of stables nor smithys nor kennels, but Ned said its granary was as large as Winterfell's, and its towers could house five hundred men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterRaven Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 The Eyrie or Greywater Watch. Based on the descriptions from the books, those sound like the two most annoying places to attack. Maybe also one of the Three Sisters because of the storms, but I'm not too sure about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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