Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 ::sigh:: Why? Very simple, my dear Watson. Saying "I hate Starks, I like Tywin" is supposed to be a sure way to ignite a flame. He could've also thrown in some Greyjoys for a good measure. He was shrewd enough not to say Ramsay, everybody would immediately see through that. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, enjoy the bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Again, the Starks aren't most of the main characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I've always been very cynical. To do stupid things just because they're honorable would hurt me. :D Like stand in formation while the enemy is charging at you? If everyone did the "smart" thing then the stupid people are going to win. Btw; Tywin is a great lord as long as you're useful and loyal. So is Lord Vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Very simple, my dear Watson. Saying "I hate Starks, I like Tywin" is supposed to be a sure way to ignite a flame. He could've also thrown in some Greyjoys for a good measure. He was shrewd enough not to say Ramsay, everybody would immediately see through that. Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, enjoy the bait. I don't think it's that simple. There are plenty of Tywin fans out there and I understand their reasons for liking him. I don't agree with them, but I understand them. If you like Tywin, then you're going to hate Ned and the Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Well main characters are:BranSansaTyrionJon AryaDaenaerys JaimeCerseiSo yeah the Starks are half the main chracters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Again, the Starks aren't most of the main characters. They are for the first three books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 They are for the first three books. They should have been for the last two, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueOrFalse Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Well main characters are:BranSansaTyrionJonAryaDaenaerysJaimeCerseiSo yeah the Starks are half the main chracters You forgot Theon, Davos, Sam and Brienne who are also listed as major POV characters. That would make the Starks less than half.And that's not even taking the minor POV's into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Greenseer Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Thank you for making a hate thread it is very much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordQorgyle Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 The only one that for me is at the level of the ones mentioned is Theon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferocious Veldt Roarer Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 I don't think it's that simple. There are plenty of Tywin fans out there and I understand their reasons for liking him. I don't agree with them, but I understand them. If you like Tywin, then you're going to hate Ned and the Starks. Might be. But starting a thread just to say the protagonists suck? That's like putting on a "Greedo shot first" T-shirt. Like the OP, I, too, am a cynic, hence I believe he's trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Maybe the 1st book, but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Again, the Starks aren't most of the main characters. In A Game of Thrones the only two characters that aren't Starks are Tyrion and Dany. So 6/8 are Starks In A Clash of Kings, we've lost Ned and the POVs branch out a bit with Davos and Theon. 5/9 are Starks. In A Storm of Swords, we add Sam to the POVs. So 5/10 are Starks In A Feast of Crows, is where the Stark dominance in the novels starts to wane. Only 2/12 here. In A Dance with Dragons, Jon and Bran are back, but no Sansa. So 3/16 here. So it's fair to say in the first half of the story, the Starks -are- the primary antagonists of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maid So Fair Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I don't think it's that simple. There are plenty of Tywin fans out there and I understand their reasons for liking him. I don't agree with them, but I understand them. If you like Tywin, then you're going to hate Ned and the Starks. Not necessarily, I mostly like both Tywin and the Starks. I wouldn't cheer on Tywin, but he's fascinating and he's the man you love to hate. Tywin's very existence gives the protagonists gravitas. Robb's achievements wouldn't have been half so impressive if all he's managed to outwit was Cersei. ETA: In A Game of Thrones the only two characters that aren't Starks are Tyrion and Dany. So 6/8 are Starks In A Clash of Kings, we've lost Ned and the POVs branch out a bit with Davos and Theon. 5/9 are Starks. In A Storm of Swords, we add Sam to the POVs. So 5/10 are Starks In A Feast of Crows, is where the Stark dominance in the novels starts to wane. Only 2/12 here. In A Dance with Dragons, Jon and Bran are back, but no Sansa. So 3/16 here. So it's fair to say in the first half of the story, the Starks -are- the primary antagonists of the series. I think you meant protagonists. Unless the OP is getting to you :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Might be. But starting a thread just to say the protagonists suck? That's like putting on a "Greedo shot first" T-shirt. Like the OP, I, too, am a cynic, hence I believe he's trolling. Even utilitarian cynics want friends to talk to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Not necessarily, I mostly like both Tywin and the Starks. I wouldn't cheer on Tywin, but he's fascinating and he's the man you love to hate. Tywin's very existence gives the protagonists gravitas. Robb's achievements wouldn't have been half so impressive if all he's managed to outwit was Cersei.ETA:I think you meant protagonists. Unless the OP is getting to you :D Er... thanks. Yeah, we'll go with that! :dunno: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raving Stark the Mad Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Not necessarily, I mostly like both Tywin and the Starks. I wouldn't cheer on Tywin, but he's fascinating and he's the man you love to hate. Tywin's very existence gives the protagonists gravitas. Robb's achievements wouldn't have been half so impressive if all he's managed to outwit was Cersei.ETA:I think you meant protagonists. Unless the Op is getting to you :D I think Tywin is a great CHARACTER, yes. Fascinating yes. But again, so is Lord Vader. But actually "like" him and "admire" him, I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee-Sensei Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Those are P.O.V.'s, not necessarily main characters. I mean, would you say Arys Oakheart was a main character? Areo Hotah? Are they more important than say... Stannis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj4iy Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Those are P.O.V.'s, not necessarily main characters. I mean, would you say Arys Oakheart was a main character? Areo Hotah? Are they more important than say... Stannis? The main characters of the series: Tyrion Dany Jon Bran Arya Sansa The story revolves around these six. Of the six, 4 of them are Starks. It's fair to say that the Stark children are primary protagonists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lannister Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Those are P.O.V.'s, not necessarily main characters. I mean, would you say Arys Oakheart was a main character? Areo Hotah? Are they more important than say... Stannis? If you want to break it down by number of total chapters, instead of POVs, the slant heads even more towards the Starks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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