Konradsmith Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 ^Exactly. Bowie doesn't do uplifting really. Case in point, from Quicksand (off of Hunky Dory): "Don't believe in yourself,Don't deceive with belief,Knowledge comes with death's release." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdaw Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 The tone is without doubt far more uplifting than previous trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungLikeHodor Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Oh my goodness if he was in, with so many more important and interesting people having been cut, I would begin to have some serious doubts about the writers of the show. I am not sure if Quentyn is cut or not, but the scene where the dragon breaths fire in the dark looked alot like a pale dragon in a dungeon. That could be Quentyn's death or someone who is taking over Quentyn's role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Bonilla Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 It seems to me that Ellaria Sand will be like an mixture of Arienne Martell and Ellaria , since Arianne wont make an appearance in the show, and in the trailer it looks like Ellaria plays a huge part in the Dorne's plot alongside the snake sisters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Did anyone notice D&D winking at us by putting Varys in the same costume Illyrio wore in Season 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtherSnow Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 If you mean the very first voiceover, I'm pretty sure that's Brienne talking, not Cersei. And Brienne talking about her own death doesn't make much sense. I'd wager she's speaking to Jaime about either Tywin or Tyrion. I think it'll be Pod that Brienne's talking to. They'll have heard the news from KL, which must reach other parts as it is BIG news. Maybe there's a price been put on Pod's head too. The words make sense about Bronn sending Pod off with Brienne on Jaime's Quest. There was a hint that it may have been Tyrion who asked Bronn to make sure Pod was away: his axe. Didn't Bronn say, 'he'd want you to have it', or words to that effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olenna123 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 That was a little underwhelming. I love Bowie but that song is so out of place in the trailer. Definitely the weakest one so far. Also am I the only one that's noticed that all the trailers include a bunch of footage and in the middle an "epic" Dany line that stands out. And then we get to the end of the season and her situation has not changed. It's getting a bit repetitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtherSnow Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 ^Exactly. Bowie doesn't do uplifting really. Case in point, from Quicksand (off of Hunky Dory): "Don't believe in yourself, Don't deceive with belief, Knowledge comes with death's release." Wasn't 'Heroes' recorded with Berlin Wall only a stone's throw away? (Obvious 'Wall' connection.) Quicksand comes out of Bowie's time in NYC, I think. It'd be about religion and.... The last line is very..... I'm sure I'll get this name wrong.... Paramhansa Yogananda. (Autobiography of a Yogi was extremely popular late 60s, early 70s) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 ^Just looked it up and Heroes was from '77. I'm not sure of the inspiration for it, other than Krautrock generally. Quicksand's from Bowie's Crowley and Nietzsche days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twenty of House Goodmen Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Disappointed by some the cut characters, but I'm not suprised. If there's any books in the series they could afford cutting content from, it's Feast and Dance.Still, I think Aegriff should've been kept. He presents a whole new challenge to Daenerys when she gets to Westeros. A long thought dead family member who may be become more popular than her with the Westerosi and also has a superior claim(under his false identity that is). Now it seems like Dany will land in Westeros, and all will welcome her with open arms.Ironborn are also irrelevant, which is unfortunate. I actually found the Ironborn plot to be way more interesting than the Dornish plot in Feast and Dance. Except for the Aeron chapter.I wasn't really opposed to changes in the last season, but some of these do concern me. Really not looking forward to the added emphasis of TrystanexMyrcella, Sand Snakes, Dorne, and MissandeixGreyworm.Meerenese storyline looks more promising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTonyStark Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 You're not the only person in the world reading the books and your opinions about what is stupid and what is not are not absolute or mandatory because of your preferences. Some of us actually liked Aegon's plot, you know? and some of us actually think that eliminate it, specially because the show has done a POORLY job developing the back story of the characters like Rhaegar, Lyanna and Elsa, is the stupid decision. i feel like if they did aegon now (not saying they will at all) it would be a mistake because they didn't develop rhaeger lyanna and elsa. i also think not dropping that info was smart too. i could see a lot of that story developing with jaime in dorne this season. which would be really cool. Her name was Elia Martell! Say it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerTonyStark Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Lets say goodbye to: Aegon Targaryen Aeron Greyjoy Alerie Hightower Alys Karstark Arianne Martell Arys Oakheart Aurane Waters Balon Swann Barbrey Dustin Coldhands Donal Noye Euron Greyjoy Gerold Dayne Harys Swyft Jeyne Poole Jocelyn Swyft Jon Connington Justin Massey Lady Stoneheart Lemore Moqorro Mya Stone Paxter Redwyne Patchface Pate Randyll Tarly Orton Merryweather Osmund Kettleblack Osney Kettleblack Quentyn Martell Satin Strong Belwas Taena Merryweather Val Victarion Greyjoy Oh well, I guess none of them are important. But it does condense the filler of AFFC and ADWD out of the overall story. Jesus, when you put it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCon's Red Beard Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Her name was Elia Martell! Say it! ELIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA ME DUELE LA MUELAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavendish Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I think I found out what Sansa's traumatic scene will be.I don't think it will be what everyone think it will be. That, Sansa will get beaten or raped by Baelish or some man and that is what will be horrible to watch. Given what Petyr said to her in the trailer while they are in the vale "There is no justice in this world, no unless WE make it. AVENGE them", Sansa will probably see someone who supports the Starks getting beaten or raped by the Lannister faction. Instead of helping with what little power she has, and endangering herself, she will hide and either listen or ignore. That scene will be traumatic because she will be once again bearing witness to the abuse she handled at the hands of the Lannisters, only this time it isn't directed at her, it will go a lot farther, and she won't be able to do anything to save the victim in the crisis. Look at her, she doesn't look like she was raped, she just seems upset/traumatized. If she was raped Petyr wouldn't have acted so coolly, nor would Sansa seem so composed, she'd be a wreck.This is why Petyr is saying "Avenge Them". Something happens to someone that Sansa knows or supports her house, and it will be a common enemy. Petyr wants Sansa to avenge whoever was at the wrong place at the wrong time. He get what he wants, Sansa get what she wants, and he is still manipulating her. I made this it's own thread btw, Idk if it will be approved, I don't post much on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcasinoroyale Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Jesus, when you put it that way. I'm sorry, it's just ridiculous how many characters they cut from the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UtherSnow Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 That was a little underwhelming. I love Bowie but that song is so out of place in the trailer. Definitely the weakest one so far. Also am I the only one that's noticed that all the trailers include a bunch of footage and in the middle an "epic" Dany line that stands out. And then we get to the end of the season and her situation has not changed. It's getting a bit repetitive. Didn't Dany once declare - I Will Rule', using strong intention voice? Now we get this one - 'I'm going to break the wheel'. This time it's Badass Dany speaking. What can I say? As usual, it's.... I've got a great local saying that fits here. All mouth, no trousers. Maybe, just maybe, Tyrion is the voice Dany needs to listen to. Perhaps that's what Varys was hinting, strongly, for him to do. How does Tyrion get to be sat near Dany when they're at Danzak's Pit? Does he become some kind of manager of gladiators (which includes Jorah), so gets this prize seat? I still think Varys is up to something other than backing Dany, as the trailer seems to hint he's doing. There are other contenders. A ruler loved by millions - Margeary's been winning support there - Sansa could be in a strong position too, when The Vale gets behind her - Things need to happen, like marrying, for Myrcella to come into the picture. Somehow, I think she'll win over people when they see how she is with Trystane. A powerful army - Margaery has a mighty force behind her - Sansa will be backed by a large force too, when The Vale supports her - Dorne would have a formidable force if the factions backed Mycrella (with Trystane) - Maybe you can include Yara (Asha) too, if tides turn to back her as Balon's successor. (Presumably, it's going to come out that he added to Mel's list of successes. The forgotten death of last season.) The right family name - Tyrell - Stark - Martell could be a wildcard - Greyjoy loses everything here. Why not Dany? Loved by millions? Astapor and Yunkai have turned since Dany moved on. Old Meeren didn't welcome her. New Meereen is far too unsettled for her to gain support. Does she have a powerful army? I don't think you'd ever call those she has anything like a powerful army. Sure, the majority are loyal but..... Three dragons don't equate to a powerful army. Has she got the right family name? As she's the daughter of Aerys (Mad King) Targaryen, she's already losing on that score. As yet, she's not proven to be up to much as a ruler to redeem the name. Unless.... Does Varys have a plan to change everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poète Lauréat Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 In summary: Typical Littlefinger ''I am smart'' quoteTypical Dany ''I am a badass, I know everything'' quote (when she obviously has downs)Typical Cersei talking about TyrionLots of Dany and Tyrion screentimeShit songNo Stannis 2/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaegar Targaryen's Ghost Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 can we stop the "I'm glad X was cut because I think X is meaningless and pointless"? You're not the only people reading the books and other people have completely opposite opinions about what is important and what is not. Thank you. The books and the show are becoming completely separate things, and we need to treat them accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konradsmith Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 ^That's not quite true. Act Two has been significantly altered/shortened but they'll still end the same way, having skipped over and around certain plot points and storylines that were skipover-able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan the Man Baratheon Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 In summary: Typical Littlefinger ''I am smart'' quote Typical Dany ''I am a badass, I know everything'' quote (when she obviously has downs) Typical Cersei talking about Tyrion Lots of Dany and Tyrion screentime Shit song No Stannis 2/10 Basically this. Nothing fresh. Same old, same old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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