Archmaester Drew Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Melisandre states that the Wall is one of the Hinges of the World, and her power is greater there. Asshai and the Shadow Lands is presumably another. What is articulated by these hinges, and what other locations may be additional hinges? Thoughts? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibzit Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Maybe Valyria could be another hinge, especially after the doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmaester Drew Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 Maybe Valyria could be another hinge, especially after the doom. Indeed -- and I suspect that the Five Forts at the edge of the Grey Wastes is another... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modesty Lannister Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 And most probably the cave complex near Norvos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 The Wall, Asshai (or Stygai?), Yeen (?), Valyria, the 5 Forts, Ulos?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Everything that tries to go inland on Sothyros apparently disappears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Joe the Unknighted Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 Yeen maybe, as well as possibly the tunnels beneath Leng. Maybe the mother of mountains. The wall, the five forts, the Shadow, and the Doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jano Targaryen Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 the question should probably be what exactly does she mean by "hinges" of the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 the question should probably be what exactly does she mean by "hinges" of the world?Yeah, why not hynges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay Gimp Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Everything that tries to go inland on Sothyros apparently disappears. I think that's more to do with all the natural dangers lurking there - diseases, cannibal hominids, dinosaurs, wyverns, etc. Though the "Lost City" in the jungle is pretty interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin the Bold Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 the question should probably be what exactly does she mean by "hinges" of the world?As Eddie Izzard once said, "No one knows what the fuck a hinge is.":-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmaester Drew Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 Okay, so we have several likely candidates, but what 'hinges' at these locations? Are these places where this world articulates with another? These appear to be nodes of increased magical power, but why? Is it the fact that it is a node of power that makes it a hinge, or is it being a hinge that makes it a node of power? Or are these both associated with some other unknown factor? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Witch King of Asshai Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Another definition of hinge is "depend on". Perhaps the civilized world depends on these hinges to survive huge threats, and their power makes them a hinge?Wall: OthersFive Forts: Mutants, Demons, SorcerorsYeen: Wyverns, Disease, DinosaursSeastone Chair: Krakens, Sea DragonsHightower: ?????????Toad Stone: Toad people? Perhaps the Lorathi Mazes and Leng Cities are similar in purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratbane Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 the question should probably be what exactly does she mean by "hinges" of the world? Hinges are what allows a gate or door to open. Door ways to other worlds from which the magic flows perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs.Grumpy Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 the question should probably be what exactly does she mean by "hinges" of the world? Agree on that. I find @Ratbane's comment reasonable tbh. Another definition of hinge is "depend on". Perhaps the civilized world depends on these hinges to survive huge threats, and their power makes them a hinge? Wall: Others Five Forts: Mutants, Demons, Sorcerors Yeen: Wyverns, Disease, Dinosaurs Seastone Chair: Krakens, Sea Dragons Hightower: ????????? Toad Stone: Toad people? Perhaps the Lorathi Mazes and Leng Cities are similar in purpose. You're citing oily black stones as hinges. I don't think they all can be count as one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendly Thenn Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I'm assuming we don't see anything east of Quarth in the books, the rest of it is purely world building unfortunately (the Five Forts look really interesting though, as do the 3 cities in the Bones mountains and Asshai obviously :( ), so if these "hinges" have any physical impact on the storyline it would have to be focused at the Wall, perhaps referencing other locations. However, does the Wall retain its value as a "hinge" or magic hot-spot if it is destroyed? Assuming the Horn of Winter puts a hole in it before the Others invade, does the Wall lose its magical function like a bucket with a hole does? Or would such a breach be warded in a way similar to the cave where Bran finds the Children? This could apply to Valyria and the 14 Fires too, maybe they "overheated" their magic engine and it blew? haha Crackpot theorising and hypothetical questions aside though, the Wall is a very impressive, very magic place, soon to be destroyed at least in part. The only real question is i) what happens to magic when the Wall goes down (as it has been noted that magic was lessened after the dragons died)and ii) can the Wall go back up? (Bran, I'm looking at you). I only mention the Wall going back up as I assume neither humanity nor the Others will be totally destroyed or agree peace. So something has to be done after the world goes to hell to stop it happening for at least another 8000 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Moat Cailin Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 The isle of faces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daendrew Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hinges move doors. Doors allow you not only to pass. But for Others to get through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 The isle of faces I was just going to say that! Been wondering about the hinges ever since I read that line of Mel's. Thanks for starting a thread on the topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Blizzardborn Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Sorry, double post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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