Tijgy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 I actually love more the though more of Robb grieving his brothers and marrying the girl because of honor than him drinking a love potion. I think it humanizes him more. I believe if we suddenly find out he did it because of a love potion he would become too much the Young Wolf, a figure of songs But that is my opinion. 5 minutes ago, Stannis is the man....nis said: No the worst is how he even gets the Value to follow him. "Hey Yohn, I don't know how but Sansa (the girl who you and the rest of the Value lords vowed protect and was last seen with me heading for the North) is somehow the Boltons captive let's go save her!" This conversation should actually only be possible in a comedy with absurd humor. I am really starting to think you should before and during watching the episode and thinking it of a (bad) parody on what it should be. It might be funny (after some drinks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis is the man....nis Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Le Cygne said: It's all going to be nauseating. But hey... If nothing is nothing to D&D then why didn't Stannis take WF? Oh wait cause it does mean something to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TepidHands Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Well tbh, Jaime at that point in the books didn't care much about what anyone thought of him ( outwardly, anyway) and HAD tossed Bran out the window. It wasn't until after the hand- lopping and time with Brienne that he began to shift. I'm still quite vexed about how they changed/dropped the Tysha story. In the show, they aged Tyrion up from 13 to 16 and had Jaime more complicit in Tywin's "sharp lesson." That they didn't let Jaime unburden himself / confess/ set the record straight to his little brother and later vow to split brother in half -- that's all on the writers. At every intersection, they've taken a wrong turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tijgy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 1 minute ago, TepidHands said: I'm still quite vexed about how they changed/dropped the Tysha story. In the show, they aged Tyrion up from 13 to 16 and had Jaime more complicit in Tywin's "sharp lesson." That they didn't let Jaime unburden himself / confess/ set the record straight to his little brother and later vow to split brother in half -- that's all on the writers. I think I missed something. How did they made Jaime more complicit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 Jaime cared even then, he took us back to the things he thought at the time. He was reflecting on all of that while he was locked up. And he keeps reflecting in his POVs. Same with Sandor, it wasn't a case of becoming someone new, but getting back to who he used to be. That person he used to be was always there, just buried deep for a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyBazooka Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 16 minutes ago, Le Cygne said: It's all going to be nauseating. But hey... omgggg that's so deep and thought provoking just give the writers all the emmys arya is soo awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The show runners are using their rights to twist and turn character the way they want them to. Cersie is Carol and understandable mom who every child should hope to have. Ned is a boyscout nice guy and that makes him a fool. Tyrion is a picked on Saintly creature who is the victim of bullying because he is a deformed dwarf. Sansa is a suck up priss that needs to be punished repeatedly for all us that were turned down by ones just like her etc. Jaime is the good looking jock that picked on others his whole life because he thought he was so much better. It goes on and on, Stannis, Briene, Robb etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Le Cygne Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 20 minutes ago, Stannis is the man....nis said: If nothing is nothing to D&D then why didn't Stannis take WF? Oh wait cause it does mean something to them I think what they are going for with the nothing is nothing, and Brienne the Brute Killing Someone Doing Something Useful, and beetles, and the like, is that life is meaningless. There's no point to any of this. So it doesn't matter how one does something, or who does something, those things that matter very much, those things that give a story meaning, they don't matter on the show. They are mocking the whole thing. Nothing is just nothing. So it's the opposite of what Faulkner said matters, "the old verities and truths of the heart, the old universal truths lacking which any story is ephemeral and doomed - love and honor and pity and pride and compassion and sacrifice" - nothing matters at all. So why not have Fansa betray her family by marrying family killers. Why not have LF be hero of the North. Why not have Stannis burn his only heir because of 2" of snow, with a lake full of fish nearby. Nothing is just nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ghost of Someone Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 The show runners are using their rights to twist and turn character the way they want them to. Cersie is Carol an understandable mom who every child should hope to have. Ned is a boyscout nice guy and that makes him a fool. Tyrion is a picked on Saintly creature who is the victim of bullying because he is a deformed dwarf. Sansa is a suck up priss that needs to be punished repeatedly for all us that were turned down by ones just like her etc. Jaime is the good looking jock that picked on others his whole life because he thought he was so much better. It goes on and on, Stannis, Briene, Robb etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis is the man....nis Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said: The show runners are using their rights to twist and turn character the way they want them to. Cersie is Carol an understandable mom who every child should hope to have. Ned is a boyscout nice guy and that makes him a fool. Tyrion is a picked on Saintly creature who is the victim of bullying because he is a deformed dwarf. Sansa is a suck up priss that needs to be punished repeatedly for all us that were turned down by ones just like her etc. Jaime is the good looking jock that picked on others his whole life because he thought he was so much better. It goes on and on, Stannis, Briene, Robb etc.. Where did the whole "Sansa reminds D&D of someone who dumped them" come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis is the man....nis Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, A Ghost of Someone said: The show runners are using their rights to twist and turn character the way they want them to. Cersie is Carol an understandable mom who every child should hope to have. Ned is a boyscout nice guy and that makes him a fool. Tyrion is a picked on Saintly creature who is the victim of bullying because he is a deformed dwarf. Sansa is a suck up priss that needs to be punished repeatedly for all us that were turned down by ones just like her etc. Jaime is the good looking jock that picked on others his whole life because he thought he was so much better. It goes on and on, Stannis, Briene, Robb etc.. Where did the whole "Sansa reminds D&D of someone who dumped them" come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A Ghost of Someone Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, Le Cygne said: I think what they are going for with the nothing is nothing, and Brienne the Brute Killing Someone Doing Something Useful, and beetles, and the like, is that life is meaningless. There's no point to any of this. So it doesn't matter how one does something, or who does something, those things that matter very much, those things that give a story meaning, they don't matter on the show. They are mocking the whole thing. Nothing is just nothing. So it's the opposite of what Faulkner said matters, "the old verities and truths of the heart, the old universal truths lacking which any story is ephemeral and doomed - love and honor and pity and pride and compassion and sacrifice" - nothing matters at all. So why not have Fansa betray her family by marrying family killers. Why not have LF be hero of the North. Why not have Stannis burn his only heir because of 2" of snow, with a lake full of fish nearby. Nothing is just nothing. they could have built up the battle for this season consdidering Hardhome used up over 75% of budget and gave Stannis a much better send off than what we saw. 1 minute ago, Stannis is the man....nis said: Where did the whole "Sansa reminds D&D of someone who dumped them" come from? "revenge of the nerds" holywood style. Bryan Cogman's title for the episode, honoring Tyrion and then what happend to Sansa, it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tijgy Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 19 minutes ago, Le Cygne said: Jaime cared even then, he took us back to the things he thought at the time. He was reflecting on all of that while he was locked up. And he keeps reflecting in his POVs. Same with Sandor, it wasn't a case of becoming someone new, but getting back to who he used to be. That person he used to be was always there, just buried deep for a time. That is true LOL, everyone is here doubleposting? Weird. Except me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis is the man....nis Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 1 minute ago, A Ghost of Someone said: they could have built up the battle for this season consdidering Hardhome used up over 75% of budget and gave Stannis a much better send off than what we saw. "revenge of the nerds" holywood style. Bryan Cogman's title for the episode, honoring Tyrion and then what happend to Sansa, it REALLY?!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Le Cygne Posted March 6, 2016 Share Posted March 6, 2016 "Revenge of the nerds" is a common thing, we didn't make it up. Female actors were calling it "revenge of the nerds" when Hollywood producers, all men, would write stories that favored the nerd, that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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