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The internal combustion engine won't stay the same. It will lose 150 kW of power. That's why they're tinkering with the aerodynamics. They need to reduce drag to avoid embarrassingly low speeds on the straits. And the ICE will run full throttle in  slow corners to charge the battery because recuperation from braking won't be enough.

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Adrian Newey is leaving Red Bull. No details known yet, but lots of speculation. Is he going to Ferrari or Aston Martin? It's not clear either how soon he can work for another team. And the big question: will Max Verstappen leave, too?

In other news, the city of Hockenheim is selling the Hockenheimring to private investors. That's good news for motorsport in Germany as the city wasn't ready to make big investments or gamble tax money on hosting a GP.

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Antonelli will be 18 in a few months, the musical chair scenario isn't getting easier.

Hulkenberg joins Kick Sauber, which will be Audi from '26 (then they are after a German line-up). Vettel or Mick the other seat? Either ways Zhou will be rendered jobless as Bottas currently got contract beyond '25. Nice announcement post the kid's home race lol.

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Marko has stated that Audi has made Sainz an offer Red Bull can't match. Which implies that Red Bull has been in talks with Sainz. Not great news for Perez.

Regarding Antonelli, I don't think he is ready for F1. Could be 2026, though.

 

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4 hours ago, Loge said:

Marko has stated that Audi has made Sainz an offer Red Bull can't match. Which implies that Red Bull has been in talks with Sainz. Not great news for Perez.

Regarding Antonelli, I don't think he is ready for F1. Could be 2026, though.

Well, it might be, if Red Bull feel they don't have better options and decide to keep Perez. Based on current form, they could do worse. Relying on Perez to lead the team if Max bails is a bigger problem as their preferred options (Norris, Sainz, Alonso) are out of reach. Maybe they'd target Russell, who's going nowhere fast at Mercedes, but I get the impression the grid is moving away from thinking that highly of Russell (like, he's not crap, at all, but he might be more in the Button-Webber class than the Hamilton-Alonso one, he can be fantastic only in certain circumstances).

Albon might open up as a good possibility for Red Bull again.

Rumours that Newey was spotted in Italy today, but very much unconfirmed.

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More news breaking on the Newey situation.

He got as far as talking serious contracts with Ferrari 4-5 years ago but apparently balked on moving full-time to Italy and Red Bull threw him a bone with the hypercar project. He then got into more talks with Ferrari last year, but Horner persuaded him into staying on with a new 2-year contract and a more hands-off approach.

What seems to have upset the applecart is a combination of the internal politics, the Horner situation (the PA apparently worked closely with Newey for a while, which might be a sign he is more inclined to believe her than Horner), and just the accumulated buildup of doing the same job for the same people for nineteen years. Even if everything was awesome during that period, eventually you just get bored. There was also some social media kerfuffles over the last year or two where Red Bull personnel and media have been suggesting that Newey had nothing to do with the last two Red Bull cars, which his wife got very angry about.

The current rumour is that Red Bull and Newey's lawyers are thrashing out an exit clause that will see his gardening leave reduced to 12 months and he will be free to leave Red Bull immediately. It's been strongly reported he has rejected a move to Aston Martin and may have also turned down Mercedes.

Ferrari are reportedly prepared to put $150 million (!!!) on the table and to use Newey as a "superconsultant" that will not require him to live full-time in Italy.

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Newey's exit confirmed. His gardening leave has been reduced to basically 12 months from now, but he can continue to advise and talk to Red Bull for that period. He'll be free to join another team in April 2025.

It sounds like he's going to Ferrari but reportedly negotiations are ongoing.

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6 hours ago, Werthead said:

Newey's exit confirmed. His gardening leave has been reduced to basically 12 months from now, but he can continue to advise and talk to Red Bull for that period. He'll be free to join another team in April 2025.

It sounds like he's going to Ferrari but reportedly negotiations are ongoing.

Crazy that Red Bull are falling apart like this.  It’s hard to believe that a team enjoying this level of dominant success isn’t able to enjoy the peak.  Usually in-fighting happens during the lean years.

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2 hours ago, Iskaral Pust said:

Crazy that Red Bull are falling apart like this.  It’s hard to believe that a team enjoying this level of dominant success isn’t able to enjoy the peak.  Usually in-fighting happens during the lean years.

If it were just F1. The issue is with the parent company after the death of Mateschitz.

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4 hours ago, TheLastWolf said:

What's this about the US Congress intervening in the Andretti rejection?

12 US congressmen have written to Liberty Media and basically reminded them that they are a US company subject to US antitrust laws, and their rejection of Andretti either breaks those laws or skirts around the edge of doing so.

They point out the current F1 Concorde agreement allows for up to 12 teams and there are currently only 10, and the F1 teams have effectively admitted to rejecting Andretti's bid as they don't want the competition (antitrust) and seem to fear the arrival of a US manufacturer, and could be seen as a cabal of European teams (and one US-owned but European-run team) rejecting a team on the basis of nationality, which is either illegal or close to being so.

They have also pointed out that F1's recent explosion in popularity has largely come from the American market, resulting in three regular US Grand Prix and immense amounts of money coming into the sport, which should offset any dilution concerns, especially given that Andretti has agreed to pay the (already exorbitant) dilution fee.

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That sounds hypocritical considering the major American professional sports leagues are all closed shops with no promotion, relegation or easy entry by new franchises — designed to be oligopolies that protect profits for incumbent owners.  But “up to 12” being specified in the F1 Concorde gives the complainants some plausible basis, even if this is primarily a lobbying effort.

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Isn't the Justice Department also investigating Live Media, also owned by Liberty, for antitrust violations?

The Congress probably has other, more important things to do, but it is interesting to see that the Andrettis are getting some support on the Hill.  Andre Carson, the US Congressional Representative for Speedway, IN, is included in the twelve.

Also John James (R-Mich.) and Indiana's Greg Pence, Victoria Spartz, Jim Banks, Erin Houchin, and Rudy Yakym III have signed the letter, showing how the Indianapolis influence is felt even outside Speedway.

 

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A great win for Lando Norris in Miami. He definitely got some luck with the timing of the safety car playing into his hands perfectly but he had good pace before that and afterwards managed to comfortably pull away from Verstappen. Newer tyres would have helped Norris, but it seems surprising that Verstappen wasn't able to threaten him at all. Piastri was also driving a strong race in the first stint so things seem to be looking good for McLaren.

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McLaren had a big upgrade package this weekend and it seemed to pay off for both drivers (Piastri were obviously knocked out of contention by on-track action). Brown is downplaying it, saying it was a combo of the new upgrades and also the low-downforce surface, and it'd be business as usual next time, but it'll be interesting to see what happens.

McLaren keep having great moments, they now just need consistency.

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