WoW - continued

[PhelanArcetus]

Well, maiden is not so annoying if you have a well equipped group who's done her lots of times, and she's been nerfed as well.

I still managed to get two shotted by her holy fire a while ago. If you are unused to the fight, and her timer is off (it normally is) you basically can't do the fight without at least one druid since you need strong enough HOTs to tick during repentance or the tank will die.

Not quite; paladin healer with blessing of sacrifice on the tank will cover it too. But nobody remembers that blessing exists. If the timer is actually working, a healer can step into holy ground right before a repentence.

My biggest pet peeve is class-specific fights. Fights where you really need to have at least X of a specific class. We have one warlock around, and one mage. If we don't want to make Aran much harder, we need the warlock. But who do we kick out for him? It's stupid stuff like that which annoys me.

Battered my way through a few quests on the paladin, and started transmuting arcanite towards the epic mount, but that was all. For some reason I had thought Crusader Strike did holy damage.

[Stego]

That said, I prefer not to think of SSC and TK trash, since it's considered the worst this side of C'Thun.

It's not so bad. At least thus far.

[Stego]

I got this off of an Aged Clefthoof like a month ago. It's been sitting in my bank since, as I can't bring myself to sell it. Now I'm an Elemental Leatherworker, (lvl 365, I believe), but several guildies really want that mace and we don't have a high lvl blacksmith. I'm thinking of changing professions to blacksmithing so I can make that sweet weapon, as we have a guildie who's a lvl 375 elemental leatherworker, anyhow. Thoughts and opinions would be appreciated. I understand blacksmithing is a bitch to lvl, but it shouldn't take that long and I think the pay off would be sweet.

Blacksmithing is the best choice I've made in this game so far. But then, I'm a warrior, and a warrior should be a blacksmith, without exception, due to the weaponsmithing possibilities. The maces are sick good. The tanking sword is the best until Mount Hyjal. (Thanks, Vanessa!) Smithing is also decent for an enh shammie, I'd say, and for a rogue, I could see it. (But really, the offhand from Arena is probably better than Blazefury, and vastly easier to come by, by degrees of ten.)

Smithing isn't too bad to level if you are a miner or have a support network. (Thanks Ro!) But it can be ghastly near the end. This seems to be ok for a tank, because you'll need to make epic resist gear anyway. But for any other class, I would be cautious. It seems as if smithing is custom made for warriors right now, and that has shown no signs of changing as of yet.

You can't find a smith who will accept the plans in exchange for a crafted one and a couple of hundred gold? Seems like that would be your best bet. Or perhaps convince one of your warriors to to pick it up. It's really a no-brainer.

[Tobin]

Tribal.. is that the Windhawk gear? Is that better than Dragonstrike?

Demon, thats a nice, hammer, but not so nice that i'd switch to BS for it. The Lower City Hammer is nearly as good, and there are a couple of Kara drops as good or better. Not sure what class you play. The BoP Dragonstrike mace is the best in the game, or was before the haste nerf at least, for an ENH Shammy.

Hurricane Boots

Netherstrike set

Monsoon Belt

[Lyanna Stark]

Not quite; paladin healer with blessing of sacrifice on the tank will cover it too. But nobody remembers that blessing exists. If the timer is actually working, a healer can step into holy ground right before a repentence.

We have used that tactic, but normally we didn't have n excess of pallys, being Horde.

If the timer works she is easy peasy, only, it never does.

Re Blacksmithing. I have taken it on my pally, thinking I could craft gear for myself if I want to go prot, cos I assume I will have to instance lots of healing gear. At least then I could craft some pieces of tanking gear myself. Not sure if warrior tanking gear is mostly the same as pally gear, but it should be? Apart from the melee weapon which should be a spelldmg item. Or is this incorrect?

At the moment I am thrilled at the through of face smacking things, but of course, levelling a pally is levelling a main healer, basically, as it looks today.

[Stego]

A lot of the boss encounters in Kara have become very easy with gear progression in healers and tanks. It's been wonderful lately, as we've been able to quickly gear up guildies in there. Still, though, no plate drops for me.

But last week we barely disenchanted anything. And that is just wonderful for the community, and makes the investment worth it.

And I know I shouldn't complain. 25 man raiding has been more than good to me. I had a full tier 4 set (sans chest) a couple of weeks after beginning 25 man raiding. I now have the third tier tanking weapon from smithing due to the guild being extremely generous in giving me vortex's, tier 5 shoulders, the shield from Gruul, the spyglass trinket from SSC, etc.

And those upgrades have honestly made Kara pretty easy on the team. I'm sitting at 20k+ health in a starter raid, and that allows for a lot of leeway.

[Kalbear]

I'm thinking that this isn't for me. I had a lot more fun selling things on the auction house than I've had doing the grinding of leveling via quests and killing really lame things, and I'm pretty sure that's not what the game is about. Did anyone else have some problems in their 40s with the content and repetition?

[Lyanna Stark]

kal,

YES and YES you get really tired of grinding.

Don't worry tho, every now and then you get bouts of "power levelling" and then for a while you don't do anything.It's only normal. Try some PvP or make some money, or level an alt in the meantime.

[Kalbear]

I really can't do any of that, at least not right now.

I don't know. I'm just not feeling the fun like I was before. Maybe I should start looking to run some more instances or something like that instead to break up the monotony, but I don't want to slow down Carrie and her leveling.

[PhelanArcetus]

Yeah, I sort of regret my profession set up.

Warrior is mining/skinning. Money money, especially mining adamantite to sell the raw ore, and using an epic flyer. Masses of money when I do it, though it's less important due to dailies now.

However, the rogue is leatherworking / blacksmithing. Now leatherworking, elemental specifically, is rather good for a rogue, though I do wish Primalstrike had more hit on it, or sockets. But I picked swordsmithing on the rogue, and frankly, the blacksmithing swords are just too fast. I'm using blazeguard / fireguard right now, and it would probably actually net more damage to use Vindicator's Brand / Latro's Shifting Sword, both of which I have. Except that would make my large investment in blacksmithing well, useless.

Yes, going to maces could do some good there, but frankly, I like swords conceptually, stylistically, and also I dislike no-stat items like the smithing mace. And my rogue looks slick as all hell in his gear now that his swords match.

Whereas, if I could magically transfer the profession over, the warrior could have Blazeguard, though not Blazefury for a long time, and buy up the pattern for some very nice boots. And of course having engineering would net access to an utterly spectacular helm and some heavy stamina trinkets (though I run Gruul with two engineer tanks neither of whom uses a stamina trinket, and both of whom I believe I'm a better tank than... )

But professions were such a pain to max out, and I have no source of materials if I switch the warrior over. If I had another 70 with professions I didn't care about, things could be different, but I'm not making the big change.

The 40s are a bad time for leveling, actually. I loathe them. Earlier and later are both better experiences.

[Stego]

Kal, poke me for instance runs. It gets better.

And I completely understand. I think we all do.

And it's worse now that the cap isn't 60. But once you hit outlands, it's a metric fuckton better.

[Stego]

Sure.

Kal, I really know how you're feeling. You need to be re-energized. You're smart, and you don't need 70 levels to learn your toon. (Like a lot of the window lickers that play this game.) You need more of a challenge to get fulfilled. I understand.

The game starts at 70. I'll do anything I can to help you get there. We always need smart, good players.

[Matrim Fox Cauthon]

I really should get back into WoW, but I will have to buy it on a Mac now, and I will be starting grad school up shortly so I am not sure if I a have the time commitments. But that addictive fun...

[Stego]

Ro, of course.

Heroic, I hope?

[RaceBannon42]

I'm going out to watch football tonight, and my father is visiting this weekend, so little WoW time until Monday

Kal you need to come on before 11pm my time.

As for leveling, I never really got to bored of it. Really the only discouraging times were trying to get groups for quests and instances, that I needed for progression. Oh, and trying to get in heroics. I still have only gotten one nether. I need 2 asap for my chest, 2 for boots, and like 5 for elemental gear. sigh.

[Matrim Fox Cauthon]

BTW, what servers for either Horde or Alliance would you recommend that I join for preferably PVP RPG?

[Stego]

I agree with Race about the time you guys play, Kal.

[TerraPrime]

Kal:

The dead zone for me was late 40s. Dunno why. But it does come and go. I actually like most of the quests. The ones I hate the most are the ones that send you over the entire game world for piddly reward. But I'm also a completist, so I feel the need to do EVERY quest. YMMV.

I'd also like to do more instances. It's fun to get boosted by 70s and it's great for gear drops. But it's more fun to go together as a similar-level group. You get to develop your skills more and things are way more challenging. PUGs suck sweaty donky balls, so there's that.

If you are getting bored, try an alt. It does help break the tedium. Pick a race that starts in a different area, and even a different style of play (like a pure caster or a pure dps). I was alting last night ( @ Stego) with Ro and Bannonn and it was fun killing dirty filthy quill boars.

Re: Matrim

The board's horde side is mostly on the Europe server Argent Dawn (RP). A good 8 to 10 Americans are on there. All of the Americans on Argent Dawn are in the same guild, and we play together a lot. There are also euro BwB people there, too.

The Alliance side is mostly on Mulfurion (spelling?), and they have maybe a dozen folks there.

[Demonblade]

Blacksmithing is the best choice I've made in this game so far. But then, I'm a warrior, and a warrior should be a blacksmith, without exception, due to the weaponsmithing possibilities. The maces are sick good. The tanking sword is the best until Mount Hyjal. (Thanks, Vanessa!) Smithing is also decent for an enh shammie, I'd say, and for a rogue, I could see it. (But really, the offhand from Arena is probably better than Blazefury, and vastly easier to come by, by degrees of ten.)

Smithing isn't too bad to level if you are a miner or have a support network. (Thanks Ro!) But it can be ghastly near the end. This seems to be ok for a tank, because you'll need to make epic resist gear anyway. But for any other class, I would be cautious. It seems as if smithing is custom made for warriors right now, and that has shown no signs of changing as of yet.

You can't find a smith who will accept the plans in exchange for a crafted one and a couple of hundred gold? Seems like that would be your best bet. Or perhaps convince one of your warriors to to pick it up. It's really a no-brainer.

Well I'm a feral druid, so I can't even use the armour in blacksmithing. My other profession has been switched from skinning to mining, mostly due to the fact that knothide leather is so goddamn cheap to buy and is in such abundance, it's really pointless to waste a profession on it. At least with mining, I can actually sell the stuff for some cash, but I'm seriously thinking of changing to blacksmithing anyway and just specialise in weaponsmith.

Oh, and the only two warriors in my guild are miners/skinners, so they're out. There's no high-lvl guildie that's a blacksmith, and there's already a high lvl elemental leatherworker in our guild, so I'm actually leaning towards changing. My druid's a lvl 70 anyway so most of the shit I make would be obsolete until I hit the elite lvls in blacksmithing. I have a bunch of ore that I have yet to sell, so I could just use that. THe only problem is that as a feral druid, I don't think there's very many weapons that I can make that would be of some use to me. My other option is to lvl my pally, who is a blacksmith, albeit a low lvl one (he's at 200 and at lvl 27, IIRC). Problem is, I really don't like my pally all that much and he'd be a pain in the arse to power-level.

[Relic]

I'm thinking that this isn't for me. I had a lot more fun selling things on the auction house than I've had doing the grinding of leveling via quests and killing really lame things, and I'm pretty sure that's not what the game is about. Did anyone else have some problems in their 40s with the content and repetition?

instance with people. its the most fun you have pre-70. also, you can try stopping at like 49 to pvp for a week while you rest up your nest two levels. i did that and it helped the midgame grinding, making it bearable. (i hate questing)