Galaxian Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Fighting in an arena, it goes to Sandor. Charging at each other in an open field, it goes to Drogo. Regardless of how they are armored of if they are mounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamoDega Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 My money are on the bigger stronger surprising fast armored dude with longer trust/slice weapon to kill the naked dude with shorter slice weapon To be honest, if we talk about one-to-one duel dothraki look like the worst weapon/armor mix you can getHigh risk kinda uneffective middle-short range style without any protection? Sound like a good plan lolThey are designed to be mongol wannabes horse riders, not foot fighters Peoples comparing to Mountain/Vardis vs Oberyn/Bronn, butSandor is not slow as Gregor, and probably better than Vardis in every possible way, good luck at Matrix himAnd Drogo did'nt have nice safety range given by Oberyn spear, not even the one of Bronn's straight sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamoDega Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I used to like debating these posts but now I can only stick to one truth. Before SoS only a few percentage of people would say Oberyn Martell could beat Gregor Clegane in single combat. Thats how these books work. So many things determine the outcome. To be fair even if the names involved may give the wrong impression a la "lulz The Fucking Mountain vs some skinny spanish with a stick", that was a way more fair fight Oberyn got speed, range, stamina, poison, skill... all things tailor made to face an opponent like Gregor, who on his side was the slowest dude of the "Top 10" To balance Mountain got dat incredible 1 hit kill power and huge armor Was'nt one sided at all, i know that is easy now, but i will go as far to say that was possible see Oberyn as favourite In this one the situation is far from that I agree that in books story can go how story want, example i will bet on Jon Snow against superior opponents by Jon having plot armor... but with Drogo dead, plot is not even a factor. We have just the characters and theyr style If we want take a fight closest will be Jorah vs Qotho And in that we seen middle age Jorah who never was "top 10" swordman material in westeros defeat one of the 3 Bloodriders (basically the 2nd best after Drogo) thanks to arakh being designed as horse riding naked weapon and sucking against armors :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Lee knot Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'd say Khal Drogo if none of them had armor or it was on horseback but since one guy has a full suit of armor and the other guy has nothing but a curved sword then the scales are heavily tipped on Clegan's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoravar Singh Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Sandor Clegane will definitely beat Khal Drogo if he's armored. Plate does have weak-sports, but you need a sharp point weapon, like a dagger or a spear to properly exploit it. An arakh is extremely weak against plate, as Selmy ( and Jorah Mormont IIRC) have demonstrated. ETA: I do not believe that Vardis Edgen vs Bronn makes for a fair comparison. Bronn had prior experience fighting Westerosi knights, and had a delibrate strategy of tiring them out and then attacking them. On the other hand, Drogo has never fought a Westerosi knight before ( yes IK SC is not technically a knight), and the Dothraki are known to be pretty dumb and unimaginative when it comes to battle tactics, so I'd wager the house on Drogo trying a direct head on charge against SC instead of trying to tire him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSmith84 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 People seem sure that Drogo would beat Sandor on horseback. Is that definitely the case though? I mean, Sandor was trained as a knight, he knows how to handle himself on a horse. He knows how to use a lance. And who is to say that Sandor will fight cleanly? What's to say that he wouldn't simply drive his lance into Drogo's horse? Also, I don't know much about Dothraki war tactics, but don't they generally attempt to ride down their opponents? How do they fight other men on horseback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmarshal Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 They fight other dothraki, so they shoot them with arrows or open them open with their arakhs, but seeing how armor would do fine against I don't see how he can beat Sandor in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon I Blackfyre Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Mh... Are we talking about Book Drogo or Show Drogo? If we're talking about the books, Sandor wins. We never read about Drogo actually fight anyone and even if we can assume he was one badass son of a bitch in battle, Sandor is a seasoned armored warrior. He won against Berric, a knight Ned trusted enough to send him off against The Mountain. I don't see a dothraki winning against any talented fighter from westeros. But future books could prove me wrong. If we're talking about the show tough...I'd say Drogo has a chance or two, since his fight scene was basically telling us he was wearing plot armor in battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willofDorne Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 People are putting too much emphasis on things Bronn and Oberyn did. These guys have been living around armored people their whole lives, so they know the whole meta-game behind it, if you will. Drogo on the other hand has probably seen only a handful of armored foes in his lifetime. The clear advantage is for Sandor, as he's basically dictating exactly how the fight has to go, and Drogo won't understand it. Sandor by a landslide. Also, remember Drogo's pride. That will work hugely against him in a fight where he doesn't know his enemy. I think there's a chance, maybe 10%, that Drogo finds a weakpoint in Sandor's armor, but I don't even think he'd do enough dodging to get that far, he'd make a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppa Bolton Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Sandor. I feel like a lot of people have the image of HBO Drogo, who can dodge every strike and pull your tongue out of your throat, in their heads. I can't think of any good reason to believe Drogo should win here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoboe Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Not sure who would win...but I do find it strange that both of them - kick-arse fighters - were brought down by a small infected wound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royce da Bronze Yohn Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Not sure who would win...but I do find it strange that both of them - kick-arse fighters - were brought down by a small infected wound. Disease (via infection or otherwise) killed far more than direct wounds did in those days. BTW the Hound fo' dayz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoboe Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Disease (via infection or otherwise) killed far more than direct wounds did in those days. BTW the Hound fo' dayz Yes - but both wounds were fairly innocuous. Other characters have been wounded far worse, and the only other cases of infection i can recall in the books were the no-name Arya and the Hound met on the road, and Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaarioSweetSauce Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Almost as equal as the battle would be, I'd say Drogo would come out on top. His only disadvantage is his weapons and fighting against Sandor's armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erkan12 Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Sandor wins due to his armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheonGreyjoy Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Armor wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall Tyrion Lannister! Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Sandor all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelx Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Clegane stomps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Rahl Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Guys I think the real misconception is that plate armor make you like a turtle or just reduces your stamina by a mile. It doesn't. Flat out period. I've personlly worn and fought in platemail and it wasn't even completely custom for me. It fits like a tux when it is. People have this idea that a man in plate who ends up on his back is like a turtle on it's back. It's simply not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadwood Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 People are putting too much emphasis on things Bronn and Oberyn did. These guys have been living around armored people their whole lives, so they know the whole meta-game behind it, if you will. Drogo on the other hand has probably seen only a handful of armored foes in his lifetime. The clear advantage is for Sandor, as he's basically dictating exactly how the fight has to go, and Drogo won't understand it. Quite. A more accurate comparison would be Barriston against the pitfighter. The pitfighter (Dorthraki) don't understand armour, it is looked on on as 'cheating.' We know both are skilled, both have decent for their area weapons. We know that Sandor is between 6'7 and 6'11, a huge man. We know that Drogo is big for his people? Out of 100 matches I would think Sandor takes the large majority, over 80% I would estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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