Edda van Heefmstra Ruston Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 The only scene that seems less than stellar to me was Theon's. Written for mandatory HBO sex, or to explain Theon's backstory for the fourth time in two episodes?Could have been used for more tournament IMO.Added Ros time, I think, as much as anything else. Hadn't they decided to give her more screen time (and a name!) after the pilot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrum Aeternum Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I disagree. People need to see Theon go from ward to rebel and this is planting the seeds.Right - otherwise his arc next season won't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Steel Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I'm kind of glad the tourney was cut short. I'm not usually one to pick on the budget cuts, but the tourney set was so sparse it was distracting. Nothing close to what I imagined. High school football games have more attendance.Yea but I don't see why they couldn't move the Sandor backstory to this episode instead and have him tell Sansa it and also about Gregor's lance going where Gregor wants. It would have added more to the story than the Robert/Cersei scene, which seemed superfluous to me unlike the Renly/Loras scene, which actually set up future events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitscralt Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I disagree. People need to see Theon go from ward to rebel and this is planting the seeds.I didn't hate it, just seemed like a weak point for me. I thought this episode was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Steel Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Kaitscralt,Not so much explaining Theon's backstory, but perhaps building on a sense of resentment. This will not be the last episode. They're clearly setting up his turn in season 2.Yea that makes sense, but they should also set up his friendship with Robb to make that arc more tragic. Hopefully they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Yea but I don't see why they couldn't move the Sandor backstory to this episode instead and have him tell Sansa it and also about Gregor's lance going where Gregor wants. It would have added more to the story than the Robert/Cersei scene, which seemed superfluous to me unlike the Renly/Loras scene, which actually set up future events.I saw Littfeflinger taking that moment to tell Sansa the story as a way of distracting her from the gruesome death of Ser Hugh. It's starting his role as her protector in troubled times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israfel070 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 The only scene that seems less than stellar to me was Theon's. Written for mandatory HBO sex, or to explain Theon's backstory for the fourth time in two episodes?Could have been used for more tournament IMO.Theon's backstory doesn't come into play for FOREVER... can't believe they decided to spend so much time on it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legba11 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Heh, first it was Theon is being forgotten, now he is getting too much time. I would not want to ever write a screenplay from an established source material.Not that anyone would want to see such a screenplay performed anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticCail Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 I never figured out the R+L=J theory on my own.Haha, oh please, neither did I. If I didn't get the bashed-on-the-head-with-innuendo Renly/Loras thing, I certainly didn't get that one until I started playing on this site. ;) And again, that's true of nearly everyone I've asked that I know personally. Unless we're all a bunch of morons (and I have to say I doubt it, as we all have graduate degrees and most of us are teachers, some in literature!), I'd wager some people that say both were OH SO OBVIOUS to them on first read through are lying. But that's fine. Now we all know everything thanks to these forums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Yea that makes sense, but they should also set up his friendship with Robb to make that arc more tragic. Hopefully they do.It looks like next week we'll have our chance. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartTesla Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Things I liked about the episode:- The running theme/joke about Arya being a boy, which will become important later- The fight scene outside the brothel was awesome.- The view from Tyrion's cell was stunning, cant tell if it sloped. In fact, the whole Vale part rocked- And of course, Theon's dick. I can't claim to have actually seen it, but others do and who am I to doubt them.Things I was meh about:- The tourney crowd scenes continue to underwhelm.- Loras looked more than a bit ridiculous.Things I didnt like:- The shaving scene wasn't quite the way I'd have shown the Loras/Renly relationship. Also, how the hell are they going to show him about to battle Stannis with an army behind him when he cant even stand the sight of blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israfel070 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 psssst, don't tell anyone. me neither.Sev, say it ain't so!! haha <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebond Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 My favorite scene wasn't a major scene, but I loved the scene with Arya and the guards. She gets better every episode.Absolutely true. Every scene with Arya in it has been flawless. As soon as I see her on screen, I just start grinning. She *is* Arya Stark. Here's hoping we get to see her as Cat of the Canals. I finally came up with an analogy for how I feel about the changes to Cersei.It's like if you sat down, all excited, to watch the Harry Potter movies in a theater for the first time... and it turned out that Voldemort is just really really sad because Dumbledore wasn't nice to him in school.This made me full of ROFLs. I'm reserving judgment on how I feel about the recharacterization of Cercei, but that analogy is hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Hands-Hot Pie Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 out of curiosity, did they ever tell us why Arya is chasing after cats on the show???that was a cool scene, even though I don't like the cat the cast as Balerion, not nearly big, mean or battered enough :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Steel Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 It looks like next week we'll have our chance. :)Yea it does look that way and they did already hint at Theon's skill with a bow. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legba11 Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Things I liked about the episode:- The running theme/joke about Arya being a boy, which will become important later- The fight scene outside the brothel was awesome.- The view from Tyrion's cell was stunning, cant tell if it sloped. In fact, the whole Vale part rocked- And of course, Theon's dick. I can't claim to have actually seen it, but others do and who am I to doubt them.Things I was meh about:- The tourney crowd scenes continue to underwhelm.- Loras looked more than a bit ridiculous.Things I didnt like:- The shaving scene wasn't quite the way I'd have shown the Loras/Renly relationship. Also, how the hell are they going to show him about to battle Stannis with an army behind him when he cant even stand the sight of blood.They showed water running out of the cell. Thus sloped (at least the runoff groove is). Of course this is just speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balefont Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 out of curiosity, did they ever tell us why Arya is chasing after cats on the show???that was a cool scene, even though I don't like the cat the cast as Balerion, not nearly big, mean or battered enough :PYes, last episode Arya told Ned about starting to chase cats. It was the scene where he finds her balancing on one foot at the top of the stairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Steel Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Also, now I know what Ran meant on his original reviews when he said that the 5th episode is where the show feels like it finally lets itself breathe.I think focusing on only a few settings really helped this episode. It felt more fleshed out than some of the other ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Cold Hands,They did. She said Syrio told her you can learn a lot from watching and chasing cats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lany Freelove Cassandra Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 out of curiosity, did they ever tell us why Arya is chasing after cats on the show???that was a cool scene, even though I don't like the cat the cast as Balerion, not nearly big, mean or battered enough :Plast week she told her dad Syrio told her to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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