The Swaggering Bravo Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I like Stannis and his cut-the-bullshit-or-get-out type attitude, but I stopped supporting his cause for the Throne after I learned Aegon was alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Meth- Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 hes a good honest man andhe doesn't really want ot be king. He knows hes the rightful heir to rob right now though so he has no choice but to pursue it.Knowing his disadvantage hes thought of doing some questionable things a man like him is against.. luckily he has the honest council of Davos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eucratides_Megas Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I like him because he's a believable Achilles---a person defined by almost inhuman attributes (his iron will and sense of justice), but one with an actual personality, history and set of relationships that define him.That and the incredibly dry sense of humor. And I think any man who earns Davos Seaworth's respect is worthy. If we judge a man by his closest friend, then Stannis is perhaps one of the greatest men in Westeros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eucratides_Megas Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I like Stannis and his cut-the-bullshit-or-get-out type attitude, but I stopped supporting his cause for the Throne after I learned Aegon was alive.The funny thing about Stannis is that once he learns about Aegon (if Aegon really is Aegon), he probably will drop his quest for the throne and fight for Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Barristan Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 I love Stannis. I have a dry sense of humor, so i find him awesome to read. In the sample chapter from WINDS, he was just epic. If you read that chapter, I don't quite see how you can't like him. I liked him long before then, but that chapter cemented him as my favorite character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarbear Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 Its hard to support someone who murdered his own brother with dark magic. Fratricide is a pretty serious thing to overlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Poem Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 It should be very hard support someone, who did'nt respect his own older brother;who spat in his face, mocked him and his own niece.It should be very hard support someone, who is traitor to the "king" - his own "nephew", sitting on Iron Throne; who is dissloyal to his liege lord - I mean head of House Baratheon.It should be very easy support someone, who was rightful heir to Iron Throne; who offered his younger brother Iron Throne after his death and place in Small Council;It should be easier support someone, who was'nt never liar, it was known;Etc. Etc. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eucratides_Megas Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Its hard to support someone who murdered his own brother with dark magic. Fratricide is a pretty serious thing to overlook.I'm pretty sure Mel never told him what she was intending. And even then, Renly himself was more than ready to kill his brother Stannis in battle, while usurping his throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swaggering Bravo Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 The funny thing about Stannis is that once he learns about Aegon (if Aegon really is Aegon), he probably will drop his quest for the throne and fight for Aegon.Maybe, I don't know what Stannis' position on the Targaryens was though. I know that he captured Dragonstone, but I think he was only doing his duty to his brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evamitchelle Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Maybe, I don't know what Stannis' position on the Targaryens was though. I know that he captured Dragonstone, but I think he was only doing his duty to his brother.Stannis said that it was a really tough choice for him to support his brother instead of his king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1234567 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Stannis went to the Wall when no one else would and as a poster said above, he has the loyalty and respect of Davos Seaworthy who is probably the most morally good man in the entire series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlespider Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Stannis went to the Wall when no one else would and as a poster said above, he has the loyalty and respect of Davos Seaworthy who is probably the most morally good man in the entire series.These eventually are the two reasons that Stannis finally won me over.His trip to the Wall was nothing short of heroic. Loved it. And anybody who Davos loves is okay in my book.Though seriously, Stannis? Quit burning people. Not nice, bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swaggering Bravo Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Stannis said that it was a really tough choice for him to support his brother instead of his king.Good, then perhaps he will deliver the North to Aegon so Sansa and the forces she can rally at the Vale when she marries Harold Hardying can go to destroying any other resistance, or the Tyrells, if they don't join Aegon upon the strife Varys caused by murdering Kevan. Dorne will undoubtedly support Aegon though, Dany is hardly needed. I can see it all so perfectly....so that means it won't happen. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talleyrand Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I don't get the "he doesn't want to be king" thing. Aemon didn't want to be King and he didn't become King. Whereas Stannis says he doesn't want to be King yet seems to be trying his hardest to become King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverBallin Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I dunno if others set things straight (don't want to red 13 pages), but it's not just that Stannis is repulsed by Selyse (though this could definitely be the case). It's stated that he just isn't comfortable around women. He bones Melisandre to bring about the assassins. Stannis isn't one to go philandering for no reason, and it's not like a devout, attractive priestess is going to go about boning a craggy, balding guy because he has a claim to the throne or whatever. Also, Selyse is a bitch. She could want some love, but what she wants is to be quee, definitely because of the Highgarden snubbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Selig Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I don't get the "he doesn't want to be king" thing. Aemon didn't want to be King and he didn't become King. Whereas Stannis says he doesn't want to be King yet seems to be trying his hardest to become King. So true. It's not like someone put a gun to his head and forced him to make a claim. He should just be honest and own up to the fact that he wants to be a King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noimporta Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I'd say Stannis doesn't want to be a King in the same way a diabetic doesn't want to eat a chocolate cake.Don't ask me in which circumstance a person would be bound by duty to eat a chocolate cake, the analogy doesn't extend that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jory Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I don't get the "he doesn't want to be king" thing. Aemon didn't want to be King and he didn't become King. Whereas Stannis says he doesn't want to be King yet seems to be trying his hardest to become King.You're completely discounting Stannis' opinion of the alternatives, whereas Aemon thought Egg would make a good king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Poem Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Alternatives of Stannis are:1/ Khaleesi. No one knows about her and she does'nt want sail to Westeros. Yet. Or... never?2/ Tommen. Little boy. No chance for good Hand or faithful, un-corrupted Council. Or wise mother. Or being real son of Robert.3/ Euron Greyjoy. Pirate.Robb Stark did'nt want Iron Throne.Renly would bankrupt again Seven Kingdoms for King's new clothes, Queen's new clothes, Knight of Flowers new armours, funny feasts and tourneys, tones of pretty baby clothes, small boots etc. etc. for little Prince with black hair and sweet chocolate eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBenUmber83 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I don't get the "he doesn't want to be king" thing. Aemon didn't want to be King and he didn't become King. Whereas Stannis says he doesn't want to be King yet seems to be trying his hardest to become King.I think you have to take into account their relative personalities. Stannis is someone with a very black and white view on these sort of matters, it doesn't matter what he wants, what matters is his duty to the realm. Aemon had a more open view on these sort of things and turned down an offer to become king rather than fighting against anyone that might be considered an "abomination of incest" or usurper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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