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Jon Snow doesn't survive the series - 10

Jeyne is not pregnant - 9

Victarian doesnt became a leading power in the GoT - 8

Danny dies without claiming the IT even for a while - 7

Dragons die - 6

Jaime Lannister gets killed by UnCat - 5

R+L=J - 4

Jon Snow sits on the IT - 3

Aegon is real - 2 - I'm pretty sure that is true, cant see Connington lying about it or being mistaken. The young one reminds of Rhaegar too much and you can see it from Jon's POV.

Stannis dies - 1

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Jon Snow doesn't survive the series - 10

Jeyne is not pregnant - 9

Victarian doesnt became a leading power in the GoT - 8

Danny dies without claiming the IT even for a while - 7

Dragons die - 6

Jaime Lannister gets killed by UnCat - 5

R+L=J - 4

Jon Snow sits on the IT - 3

Aegon is real - 2 - I'm pretty sure that is true, cant see Connington lying about it or being mistaken. The young one reminds of Rhaegar too much and you can see it from Jon's POV.

Stannis dies - 1

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Jon is dead - 9

Aegon is legit - 6

Aegon is Blackfyre - 5

Jaime lives through his encounter with Stoneheart - 3

Tyrion dies - 4

Dany dies -5

Dragons die - 1

Arya dies - 10

Melisandre kills the 3 eyed crow - 9 (it will be the other way around)

Walder Frey dies an awful death - 2

Stannis sits the iron throne - 0 . People he's going to be either king or hand to the king for a time. Mel saw him sitting on the iron throne in her prophecy, and she often misinterprets, but her prophecy is never just straight up wrong.

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Jon is truly dead: 6. Because he seems very popular. I've always found him annoying and skip most of his chapters...

Dany becomes Queen of Westeros: 3. Because she seems popular. I've always found her annoying and skip most of her chapters...

Tyrion chokes to death on a raisin minutes before meeting Dany: 8. Because he seems very popular. I've always found him annoying and skip most of his chapters...

Stannis becomes King: 8. It's very unlikely considering his current predicament. However, he's the only character who doesn't spend page after page worrying, bitching and whining about his lot and seems the most suited to rule to me.

GRRM gets a proper editor: 10. Are you kidding? Harper Voyager aren't likely to tell their biggest author what to do now we're up to the sixth book. But really George, ask yourself - did ADWD really need to be 959 pages long? Did anything really happen?

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Jon lives - 0

Jon = R + L - 0 (but really, I wouldn't be surprised if that was just a red herring)

Jorah kills Daario - 3 (I would really like to see that happen also!)

Tyrion doesn't meet Dany by the end of the series - 7 (at this pace...)

Stannis becomes king and stays king - 7 (I'm pretty sure he's going to die, but you never know)

Dany becomes a competent ruler - 4 I'm actually rooting for her. She's younger than Robb, and I know she's been through a lot but the entire Meereen fiasco has got to teach her a lesson on her ruling techniques. For instance, don't send away the one person near you who loves you for who you are (Jorah)

Dragons die - 10 dragons are too cool!

NW survives series - 10

Aliens appear- -10 AHAHAA joking. (This was from a GRRM interview I was just watching, when a person asked him how his writing is influenced by all these forums about ASoIF)

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Here's my list from 0 to 10:

R + L = J : 0

Brienne has her first and only sexual encounter with Jaime : 1

Tommen dies in TWoW: 2

Lemore = Ashara : 3

Jaime and Cersei off one another at the end of the series: 4

Victarion marries Dany: 5

Arya completes her FM apprenticeship: 6

Tyrion figures out where whores go: 7

The Wall is still standing at the end of the series: 8

Jon is not Azor Ahai: 9

No one says "words are wind" in the next book: 10

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Jon is truly dead: 6. Because he seems very popular. I've always found him annoying and skip most of his chapters...

Dany becomes Queen of Westeros: 3. Because she seems popular. I've always found her annoying and skip most of her chapters...

Tyrion chokes to death on a raisin minutes before meeting Dany: 8. Because he seems very popular. I've always found him annoying and skip most of his chapters...

Okay i'll give you Dany, its getting a bit old, but being bored with Jon and TYRION? I don't know if theres a more interesting character than Tyrion in all of the books. what characters do you enjoy reading?

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I think Casual Observer was being a bit sarcastic there, Rhaegar's Ghost :-) Probably a bit of a dig at the sort of poster who comes onto the forum spluttering with fanrage, they're forever claiming "oh I don't read x's chapters".....if you really skipped all of Jon, Dany and Tyrion you'd have missed at least half the entire story, if not more.

He's bang on about Martin needing a firm hand with the editing though. Unlike some here I like Feast and thought Dance was excellent (if you ignore those Dany/Daario chapters). But even though I like them a lot, I'm pretty sure both could easily be trimmed by a couple of hundred pages each without losing any meat.

Me, I'll be surprised if

Dany actually makes it to Westeros at all, ever - 9

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In order:

Jaime survive his meeting with UnCat: 1

Aegon's not really "the" Aegon: 2

Brienne doesn't survive her meeting with UnCat: 3

Jaime dies in the hands of UnCat and is reborn to fulfill "The shadow in golden armor" professy: 4

Jaime doesn't survive meeting UnCat and that's it: 5

Tyrion dying in a very ironic way (like being pushed into the drains after conquering Casterly Rock): 6

"A+J = J&C" = 7.

"L+R = J" not being true = 8.

Jon is dead = 9. Don't think he's dead but never trust GRRM.

Hodor saying anything other than Hodor = 10.

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Jon dead-10

Aegon is Aegon-5

Victarion steals a dragon-0

Coldhands is Benjen-3

Stannis on the Iron Throne-5

Jaime and Sandor kill Rob Strong-0

Jaime and Sandor surviving said killing-8

Doran doesn't ally with Aegon but Arianne does-0

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Jon is dead? 10

Jon is Eddard's son? 9

Aegon (Young Griff) is Rhaegar's true son? 9

Coldhands is Benjen Stark? 0

Jaime survives his encounter with UnCat? 4

Stannis becomes King? He already is (kinda), but if we ask if he were to remain... 6

Shireen survives greyscale? 8

Tyrion is the valonqar? 8, it would be too obvious

Jaime is the valonqar? 1, much more interesting possibility

Jaime and Brienne admit how they feel about the other? 7

Dany sits the Iron Throne and becomes a decent reuler? 10

Daenerys marries Jon? 10

We're on the same page a lot here. I've thought for a long time now that Jamie is the little brother that will strangle her because their relationship is so...lets say complicated. Hey.

GRRM totally broke my heart when he killed Robb & Grey Wind. I've love Jon from the first too but after Ned & Robb & Lady, I don't put anyone out of his reach. I say 5. A 50/50 chance that Jon (hopefully only his body) will die.

Also, I've been so hung up on shipping Sandor & Sansa that I kinda missed the connection that Brienne & Jamie have on my first read. I like that George has flipped the traditional Beauty & The Beast story. Jamie as the pretty boy and poor Brienne, the beast, who wins his love through her bravery, strength and honor. I love it. It would be more of a 5 for me.

I'm a fan of Dany so I give her a 6. GRRM could still go either way with her character and I love the dragons.

Dany & Jon. I don't know.... More of a 8. Dany gets a mount to love but does she get to keep him? I'd like to see a Jon & Dany hook up - if Dany turns out to be the kick ass but just ruler she wants to be, if not then no, I don't want her around Jon.

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Okay: 1 (obvious) to 10 (you have gotta be kidding!)

Jon Snow dies/d ......................................................... 5

Jon Snow stays dead ............................................... 10

Jon Snow is Rhaegar and Lyanna's true born son ..... 1

Jon Snow (Targaryen) is forced to the Iron Throne .... 1

Daenerys inspires suffrage in Westeros ................... 10

That Daenerys and Jon fight a war with each other ... 2

That Jaime is killed by unCatelyn ................................ 9

That Arya does stays a faceless person ....................10

That Arya kills Illyrio ................................................... 1

That Arya kills Varys .................................................. 1

That Coldhands is Benjen .......................................... 9

That Stannis sits on the Iron Throne (briefly) ............. 1

That Aegon is Rhaegar's son ..................................... 10

That Aegon is Ashara's son ........................................ 5

That Aegon is Illyrio's son ........................................... 1

That Ashara's son was killed in the sack of KL ........... 1

That Elia had a stillborn daughter ............................... 3

That Aerys raped Ashara at Harrenhal ....................... 1

That Daenerys can react appropriately ...................... 9

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Hodor says something besides "Hodor": 10

Fate smiles on Dolourous Edd: 9

Bran ate some Jojen soup: 8

Victarion stops being one dimensional: 7

"Words are Wind" is not mentioned in the next book: 6

The Lannister siblings all die: 5

A major house goes extinct: 4

None of the current Kingsguard (of Kings Landing) survive: 3

A Faceless(wo)man kills someone: 2

There's at least one more feigned death: 1

A Frey dies: 0

It is known.

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