assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 Tze, who's one of the smartest, most thoughtful posters on here and to whom you should all pay attention, made an incredible observation about the vision of the Red Wedding that Dany sees in the House of the Undying. Namely, that it wasn't the Red Wedding that Dany saw.I've written about it elsewhere, but to recap, the vision Dany sees in the House of the Undying encompasses a number of very specific details---the iron crown, hacked-off limbs, a silent wolf-headed King whose eyes follow Dany despite the fact that he's dead (and who's holding a leg of lamb like a scepter), the feast of roast fowl and bread on wooden dishes----that don't really line up with what happened at the Red Wedding. The feasters Dany sees are eating roast fowl and bread---Cat makes a big deal out of the crappy food that Walder Frey serves, and "roast fowl" and "heels of bread" were not served at the Red Wedding. (And since Cat was fixating on the food, you'd think she'd have mentioned if the food was served on wooden dishes, like Dany sees, yet Catelyn never makes any such mention.) There are no hallmarks of a wedding in the scene Dany sees---no wedding pie, no musical instruments, no bridal cloak (basically, nothing that indicates this was a wedding feast at all). Dany specifically mentions seeing a number of hacked-off hands---but there's no mention of hands being targeted during the Red Wedding, and in fact (given that the wedding guests had no weapons), there was no reason for the Freys to target people's hands; Cat had her throat slit, Robb was stabbed, etc. The wolf king is presiding over this feast, but a big deal was made at the Red Wedding of the fact that Robb was not presiding over it.Robb's crown has been described on multiple occasions as a bronze crown with iron swords surmounting it, covered in runes---Dany sees the wolf-headed king wearing simply "an iron crown", and given that Robb's crown was so distinctive, that makes no sense if this was meant as a vision of the Red Wedding. Moreover, we saw a completely different Stark warg, Bran, described as having the head of a wolf in a vision in ADWD, so Robb is hardly the only person who can be described as a man with a wolf's head. (Not to mention, the image of a man seated on a throne, silent, "his eyes follow[ing] Dany with mute appeal", conjures up an image more similar to that of the greenseers entombed beneath Bloodraven's hollow hill than of Robb at, or after, the Red Wedding.)Basically, I think this vision describes some unknown future event, not the Red Wedding. Too many of the details just don't sync up.Even if this isn't about the Red Wedding, the event was still foretold in other places, namely in Jinglebell's song ("Blood on the fool, blood on the king, blood on the maiden's thigh. But chains for the guests and chains for the bridegroom, aye, aye, aye") and by the Ghost of High Heart (Catelyn's death and resurrection and Grey Wind left outside to howl).To make my own contribution ... in Judeo-Christian mythos, lambs are a symbol of purity and innocence. If this vision does indeed pertain to Bran, might the lamb-leg "scepter" be a symbol of him losing his innocence on his path to being a greenseer? I know several posters subscribe to the idea that Bloodraven's/the Children's motives aren't 100% pure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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