Jolene Brown Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I highly recommend the Addams Family portrait of the Lannisters that a fan made. I think it was posted on winteriscoming. The Jaime in it is amazing and is totally my mental image of him now. I think of Jaime too often to want to associate him with a real human being (NCW) b/c it would get pretty creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 I highly recommend the Addams Family portrait of the Lannisters that a fan made. I think it was posted on winteriscoming. The Jaime in it is amazing and is totally my mental image of him now. I think of Jaime too often to want to associate him with a real human being (NCW) b/c it would get pretty creepy.You mean this one?http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m94z9hhana1r55bmgo1_500.jpgYeah totally gonna picture Tywin like that forever now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You mean this one?http://25.media.tumb...55bmgo1_500.jpgYeah totally gonna picture Tywin like that forever now.Yes exactly! It has been the background on my desktop since it came out. I love how cute little Tommen is, with his big sweet face... that looks more like Balerion the evil tomcat (except for having two eyes) than any of his kittens to me though. And who is the guy holding the skull? Qyburn? I can't figure that part out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night's Prince Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yes exactly! It has been the background on my desktop since it came out. I love how cute little Tommen is, with his big sweet face... that looks more like Balerion the evil tomcat (except for having two eyes) than any of his kittens to me though. And who is the guy holding the skull? Qyburn? I can't figure that part out.Pycelle? Always been a servant of House Lannister???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I didn't like him at first but now I do because of the show. Actually I have allowed the show to shape a few of my opinions about characters. I think that's a few too many. Well, I am the same, started after S2, but I like TV Stannis more due to 2 reason:1. He admitted his part in killing Renly.2. Choking Melisandre (Not overly proud of this but I did) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night's Prince Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Well, I am the same, started after S2, but I like TV Stannis more due to 2 reason:1. He admitted his part in killing Renly.2. Choking Melisandre (Not overly proud of this but I did)I actually enjoyed #2 as well. She couldn't do anything and at that point proved her powerlessness outside her fire visions. Which unfortunately he felt that he still needed. Thanks for your thoughts! :cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septa Mary Frances Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I'm baffled by the love Stannis gets for going North and for "justly" burning people alive . For the first, it's not like he had huge range of better options for staying alive/continuing his campaign. (Note: he was presented with and agreed to this option after burning Edric Storm was no longer an available option.) For the second, he's burning people alive and he's burning people alive for political expediency. He "doesn't enjoy it" is NOT a mitigating factor; it makes him arguably worse than Aerys, since insanity can reasonably be called a mitigating factor.I'm 95% certain we'll find out Tyrion himself was behind Tysha's gang rape, an adolescent aping (made exponentially worse naturally) of Tywin's treatment of his father's mistress, similar to the way Joffrey's actions were frequently sociopathic funhouse mirror versions of Robert's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnbentFury Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Yes exactly! It has been the background on my desktop since it came out. I love how cute little Tommen is, with his big sweet face... that looks more like Balerion the evil tomcat (except for having two eyes) than any of his kittens to me though. And who is the guy holding the skull? Qyburn? I can't figure that part out.*claps* That's the picture I uploaded actually on my tumblr. It's from this magnificent artist on devianart, who also drew this:http://bubug.deviantart.com/#/d5ed0hbAnd for the SanSan fans, this: http://bubug.deviantart.com/#/d5hpab6It is Qyburn by the way.The artist is brilliant and I adore her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daenerys is my queen Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I'm baffled by the love Stannis gets for going North and for "justly" burning people alive . For the first, it's not like he had huge range of better options for staying alive/continuing his campaign. (Note: he was presented with and agreed to this option after burning Edric Storm was no longer an available option.) For the second, he's burning people alive and he's burning people alive for political expediency. He "doesn't enjoy it" is NOT a mitigating factor; it makes him arguably worse than Aerys, since insanity can reasonably be called a mitigating factor.I'm 95% certain we'll find out Tyrion himself was behind Tysha's gang rape, an adolescent aping (made exponentially worse naturally) of Tywin's treatment of his father's mistress, similar to the way Joffrey's actions were frequently sociopathic funhouse mirror versions of Robert's.I agree about Stannis. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's so fascinating to me that so many people seem to see Stannis as a Ned Stark like figure. I consider him more in the Theon/Jaime/Hound category, or even a Tywin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzer Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's so fascinating to me that so many people seem to see Stannis as a Ned Stark like figure. I consider him more in the Theon/Jaime/Hound category, or even a Tywin.I think he is much more like Ned than Tywin. Like Ned, Stannis has noble goals and beliefs. What he differs from Ned is that he's pragmatic and takes questionable paths when it's the only option, instead of giving up because it's not honorable like Ned. He's a more "the ends justify the means" kind of guy. Tywin just doesn't care about anything and has absolutely no morals. He does what he does just to keep his power, while Stannis does what he does for his duty and for the realm.I don't see anything of Theon, Jaime or Sandor in Stannis. These guys are just troubled guys that do wrong things because they either don't care or want to prove themselves. They don't do that for a greater good like Stannis does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night's Prince Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 It's so fascinating to me that so many people seem to see Stannis as a Ned Stark like figure. I consider him more in the Theon/Jaime/Hound category, or even a Tywin.Duty is all he had and considered unfailing and never false. His whole life has been a string of letdowns from people. Duty is an idea and a way of life and he can depend on it whereas he can't depend on people, with the exception of Davos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorubahn Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Somehow I can't see Stannis ordering Shireen's husband butt-raped over and over again just to prove a point. =PAnd yes, he could probably come up with a more humane method of execution than burning people, but if I had to pick, I'd rather be burned than, oh I don't know, crucified. *coughDanycoughcough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Because Stannis's own allies can't trust him, Edric Storm will spend the foreseeable future in Essos, far from his home, family, and friends. Because Stannis's own allies can't trust him, Maester Aemon is dead. Because Stannis's own allies can't trust him, Gilly may never seen her own child again. Stannis ordered men burnt to death alive for the crime of cannibalism, despite the fact that he himself considered the possibility during the siege of Storm's End. Stannis is at least arguably a kinslayer. All of that is pretty much in Tywin territory for me.eta: Not to mention the forced conversion of the Wildlings, which is basically tantamount to cultural genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 *claps* That's the picture I uploaded actually on my tumblr. It's from this magnificent artist on devianart, who also drew this:http://bubug.deviantart.com/#/d5ed0hbAnd for the SanSan fans, this: http://bubug.deviantart.com/#/d5hpab6It is Qyburn by the way.The artist is brilliant and I adore her.Hahah i love the sign board next to Arya. VOTE THE YOUNG WOLF! and an advert for Ros. Makes me wonder if it was Sandor who carved those initials.....This artist has an amazing style and this is fantastic!http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/247/5/0/under_the_heart_tree_by_bubug-d5djy64.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzer Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Because Stannis's own allies can't trust him, Edric Storm will spend the foreseeable future in Essos, far from his home, family, and friends. Because Stannis's own allies can't trust him, Maester Aemon is dead. Because Stannis's own allies can't trust him, Gilly may never seen her own child again. Stannis ordered men burnt to death alive for the crime of cannibalism, despite the fact that he himself considered the possibility during the siege of Storm's End. Stannis is at least arguably a kinslayer. All of that is pretty much in Tywin territory for me.eta: Not to mention the forced conversion of the Wildlings, which is basically tantamount to cultural genocide.Yeah, but that's all for a greater good. These allies you say don't think about the big picture with those acts. Stannis believes in sacrificing the few to save the many, Jon and Davos do not, it seems. If both Tywin and Stannis kill a person each, but Stannis kills for self-defence and Tywin kills to steal his money, can you compare them with each other just because they killed someone? The reasons change everything.About Renly, I think it was more an act of self defence. Renly would probaby have killed Stannis if he gave battle. One of them had to die and Stannis wasn't going to let a traitor win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolene Brown Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I don't want to turn this into a Stannis thread, but in my opinion, Stannis does this stuff for power and respect, just like Tywin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samsaptakas Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Stannis does not want respect, he wants loyalty. His desire power so, he could use it to do his duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleDirewolf Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I'm baffled by the love Stannis gets for going North and for "justly" burning people alive . For the first, it's not like he had huge range of better options for staying alive/continuing his campaign. (Note: he was presented with and agreed to this option after burning Edric Storm was no longer an available option.) For the second, he's burning people alive and he's burning people alive for political expediency. He "doesn't enjoy it" is NOT a mitigating factor; it makes him arguably worse than Aerys, since insanity can reasonably be called a mitigating factor.Yes, exactly. That's why I'm not all ZOMG STANNIS! about him coming north to aid the Wall and the Northern good guys. He's still burning people alive, and he doesn't seem to give a crap about it. I would need to go and re-read, but wasn't it Davos who convinced him to go to the Wall, and then Mel saw something in the flames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyLittleDirewolf Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 And for the SanSan fans, this: http://bubug.deviantart.com/#/d5hpab6The artist is brilliant and I adore her.Swoon! Thanks for sharing. I agree, very talented. Will keep an eye on her work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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