WardenOfTheNorth Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Who wins? It would be very close obviously, but I think that Jamie's natural cockiness would make him leave an opening that Barristan the Bold would eventually exploit(like Anakin vs Obi Wan in Revenge of the Sith). What do you guys thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Sansa Stark Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Barristan Selmy for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkDragon Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I don't know. Could you give us a few circumstances?For example, I don't think Rob would beat Jaime, but he did due to tactics rather than actual 'fighting'. (Actually they didn't fight at all.)If it's just straight up fight, I'd go for Jaime. If it's Jaime caught naughty, and Lannister vs Kingsguard (Robert as King), I can see Barristan outsmarting Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WardenOfTheNorth Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I don't know. Could you give us a few circumstances?For example, I don't think Rob would beat Jaime, but he did due to tactics rather than actual 'fighting'. (Actually they didn't fight at all.)If it's just straight up fight, I'd go for Jaime. If it's Jaime caught naughty, and Lannister vs Kingsguard (Robert as King), I can see Barristan outsmarting Jaime.Just a straight up one on one fight. I do think Barristans honor could be a problem for him in a fight with another knight, and since Jamie doesnt really have an honor code, that could be to his advantage. Remember Ser Vardis vs Bronn in the Vale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sansa_Stark Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Barristan wins 57/100 times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkDragon Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Just a straight up one on one fight. I do think Barristans honor could be a problem for him in a fight with another knight, and since Jamie doesnt really have an honor code, that could be to his advantage. Remember Ser Vardis vs Bronn in the Vale?Yeah, I hate to say it but I'd bet Jaime cause he's was an ass hole. (At least we can agree he was then, right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherMerciless Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Jamie fighting Selmy to save Brienne= Jamie wins.The rest I don't know. Jamie is cocky yes, but Selmy has quite a few more years on him. Strength wise they could be the same, but Jamie would have more stamina I think. On the other hand, Selmy has waaaaay more experience. This also leads me to think that if Jamie is so good even with less experience, he was born to use a sword. Let's hope his left hand agrees with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamSongs Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Barristan Selmy for the win.Barristan states that Jaime is the best natural swordsman that he has ever seen. Not that Barristan is anything to sneeze on.I put my gold and my ironprice on Jaime Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makes No Sansa Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Jaime Lannister. He was unbeatable, it's as plain as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Mac Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 It depends. I'd like to think they are equal, and a lot of factors could go in to a battle between the two.So I'd say it could be a 50/50 deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackfish Tully Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Barristan states that Jaime is the best natural swordsman that he has ever seen.That is not what he said. He said that one of his new trainees was the best natural swordsman he's seen since Jamie Lannister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brienne Of Bombay Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I'm not sure actually. It could go either ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I think it'd be close, but that Barristan would come out on top around sixty times out of a hundred. Jamie is super skilled, don't get me wrong, probably more or as naturally gifted than/as Barristan. But Barristan has more heart and poise than, i'd posit, any other fighter we see. He entered a tourney when he was ten, he cut through the Golden Company like they were a bunch of unco-ordinated farmers in order to end the Blackfyre Line, He rescued his King from an enemy castle, He killed one of the baddest men in Essos with a staff as an old man, and he was secure enough in strategy and skill to contemplate how to give a great pit fighter an honorable deaths.Now, that was a bit of a Barristan love tangent with little to do with the comparative, but, I think given their primes, which for Jamie was probably a few year before the series and for Barristan was probably around the Defiance, Barristan is far more expirience in not only general battle, but also what it means to duel a skilled foe. And that experience, plus his heart and poise, makes the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OscLove Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Jaime! *clap *clap *clap Jaime! *clap *clap *clap Jaime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamSongs Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Pity this thread has such a topic. It truly precludes an honest debate between Barristan and Jaime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Barristan states that Jaime is the best natural swordsman that he has ever seen.Not that Barristan is anything to sneeze on.I put my gold and my ironprice on Jaime Lannister.Being "the best natural swordsman" doesn't mean that he thinks Jamie would beat everyone. It means he has a knack for it and a natural skillset. It has nothing to do with experience, mental fortitude, and training. It means Jamie would probably be competitive with almost everyone but ability is only about 50% of what it takes to be elite in 1-1 combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a white raven Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Barristan the Bold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulled Wino Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I go Selmy. IMO Jamie never reached his potential. He never really hit his prime, which is a combination of physical and mental primes, including experience. If I had to set a line, probably Selmy -110, Jamie +130, then I'd clean up on everyone going Jamie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WardenOfTheNorth Posted February 26, 2013 Author Share Posted February 26, 2013 I go Selmy. IMO Jamie never reached his potential. He never really hit his prime, which is a combination of physical and mental primes, including experience.If I had to set a line, probably Selmy -110, Jamie +130, then I'd clean up on everyone going Jamie.Why dont you think he reached his prime? Do you think its because his lost his hand, while still relatively young? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic. Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 Barristan in his prime had far more experience in combat than Jaime, even Jaime reflects on that. Jaime is the more talented swordsman but he'd probably lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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