Dr. Pepper Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 What is heaven? What is hell? These are just words to me and words are wind. Heaven and hell are ideas, not merely names. That which we call heaven by any other name should be just as sweet, but not if the words come from two people who believe in two different sets of rules to attain such sweetness. Right? RIGHT? If only there were one standard by which we determine pure innocence worthy for a seat in someplace sweet and light and pure evil worthy to be thrown into the firey halls of eternal damnation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 If only there were one standard by which we determine pure innocence worthy for a seat in someplace sweet and light and pure evil worthy to be thrown into the firey halls of eternal damnation...1. Unbabtized heathens: Missendei, Septon Meribald, Maester Luwin-- pretty much everyone outside of the Ironborn and Patchface who aren't also guilty of more egregious crimes.2. Lust: Gatehouse Ami, those Ibbenese guards Tyrion sent to protect Shae, Varamyr's female wolf3. Gluttony: Tommen, Sam, Hot Pie, Robert, the boar that killed Robert4. Greed: Jon (over-extending his line of credit with the Iron Bank)5. Wrath: Brienne (for swearing to kill Stannis), Rickon (that kid is always mad at something)6. Heresy: Davos (for believing Stannis is his god), Tyrion (for telling the gods to fuck off), Cersei (for her deicide), Bran (for trying to become a god)7. Violence: Cat (for killing Jinglebell in cold blood)8. Fraud: Varys ("Faegon"), Jeyne Poole (pretending to be Arya), Arya (who hasn't this one pretended to be), Dany ("Dracarys" was a pretty extreme case of fraud if I ever saw one)9: Betrayal: Ned Stark (for harboring enemy dragonspawn from his king); Sansa Stark (for everything) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 1. Unbabtized heathens: Missendei, Septon Meribald, Maester Luwin-- pretty much everyone outside of the Ironborn and Patchface who aren't also guilty of more egregious crimes.2. Lust: Gatehouse Ami, those Ibbenese guards Tyrion sent to protect Shae, Varamyr's female wolf3. Gluttony: Tommen, Sam, Hot Pie, Robert, the boar that killed Robert4. Greed: Jon (over-extending his line of credit with the Iron Bank)5. Wrath: Brienne (for swearing to kill Stannis), Rickon (that kid is always mad at something)6. Heresy: Davos (for believing Stannis is his god), Tyrion (for telling the gods to fuck off), Cersei (for her deicide), Bran (for trying to become a god)7. Violence: Cat (for killing Jinglebell in cold blood)8. Fraud: Varys ("Faegon"), Jeyne Poole (pretending to be Arya), Arya (who hasn't this one pretended to be), Dany ("Dracarys" was a pretty extreme case of fraud if I ever saw one)9: Betrayal: Ned Stark (for harboring enemy dragonspawn from his king); Sansa Stark (for everything):agree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan Marius Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 None of them, because I don't think we can substantiate an afterlife in this created world (much less one of punishment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 1. Unbabtized heathens: Missendei, Septon Meribald, Maester Luwin-- pretty much everyone outside of the Ironborn and Patchface who aren't also guilty of more egregious crimes.2. Lust: Gatehouse Ami, those Ibbenese guards Tyrion sent to protect Shae, Varamyr's female wolf3. Gluttony: Tommen, Sam, Hot Pie, Robert, the boar that killed Robert4. Greed: Jon (over-extending his line of credit with the Iron Bank)5. Wrath: Brienne (for swearing to kill Stannis), Rickon (that kid is always mad at something)6. Heresy: Davos (for believing Stannis is his god), Tyrion (for telling the gods to fuck off), Cersei (for her deicide), Bran (for trying to become a god)7. Violence: Cat (for killing Jinglebell in cold blood)8. Fraud: Varys ("Faegon"), Jeyne Poole (pretending to be Arya), Arya (who hasn't this one pretended to be), Dany ("Dracarys" was a pretty extreme case of fraud if I ever saw one)9: Betrayal: Ned Stark (for harboring enemy dragonspawn from his king); Sansa Stark (for everything)This is amazing. Everyone's going to hell!But really though, whose hell are we using? The Christian hell, the Jewish Big Sleep? Is getting into heaven a matter of good works or grace through faith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackViper Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 No you can break the commandments and still have his favor (there are stories/parables on that) but everyone has to repent of their sins.No one is going to heaven unless they do that (everyone is a sinner whether lying, adultery, murder, etc.). Does that mean Cersei is the one closest to heaven at the moment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 1. Unbabtized heathens: Missendei, Septon Meribald, Maester Luwin-- pretty much everyone outside of the Ironborn and Patchface who aren't also guilty of more egregious crimes.2. Lust: Gatehouse Ami, those Ibbenese guards Tyrion sent to protect Shae, Varamyr's female wolf3. Gluttony: Tommen, Sam, Hot Pie, Robert, the boar that killed Robert4. Greed: Jon (over-extending his line of credit with the Iron Bank)5. Wrath: Brienne (for swearing to kill Stannis), Rickon (that kid is always mad at something)6. Heresy: Davos (for believing Stannis is his god), Tyrion (for telling the gods to fuck off), Cersei (for her deicide), Bran (for trying to become a god)7. Violence: Cat (for killing Jinglebell in cold blood)8. Fraud: Varys ("Faegon"), Jeyne Poole (pretending to be Arya), Arya (who hasn't this one pretended to be), Dany ("Dracarys" was a pretty extreme case of fraud if I ever saw one)9: Betrayal: Ned Stark (for harboring enemy dragonspawn from his king); Sansa Stark (for everything)So all actions could lead one to hell. That makes sense, because hell is firey, it has more regenerative properties. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust and back around again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 So all actions could lead one to hell. That makes sense, because hell is firey, it has more regenerative properties. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust and back around again.actually, the center ring of hell of ice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan Marius Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 This is amazing. Everyone's going to hell!But really though, whose hell are we using? The Christian hell, the Jewish Big Sleep? Is getting into heaven a matter of good works or grace through faith?It looks like Dante's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 actually, the center ring of hell of iceI don't know how that could possibly work, bb. The fire would leech the water away, cause it to evaporate. I think you're just pulling my leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ser Pounce is headed straight to hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Walrus Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ser Pounce is headed straight to hellYou're first Petyr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 You're first Petyr! whoa man. Where's the love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Walrus Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 whoa man. Where's the love?Where's the love? What love would i have for a man who threw an entire continent into chaos and war because he happens to be King of the Friendzone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Where's the love? What love would i have for a man who threw an entire continent into chaos and war because he happens to be King of the Friendzone? all the love in the world as long as the ladder is real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Walrus Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 all the love in the world as long as the ladder is real.I hope you like that ladder, because i'm throwing it in right behind you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterbumps! Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I don't know how that could possibly work, bb. The fire would leech the water away, cause it to evaporate. I think you're just pulling my leg.Not to get all into the theology of this, but the idea Dante was going for is that the further away you get from the light of god, the less of "God's love" there is, represented by the lack of heat as you descend. The cold is about deprivation of God's love as it were. I think it operates by a different set of rules than physical science, or, as it pertains, ASOIAF, lol.I'm pretty sure Roose's leeches will make it out ok, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolan Baratheon Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Davos, Margaery, Jon Snow, Bran, Rickon, Myrcella, Tommen.etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Walrus Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 MargaeryUmm...Would you care to explain this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Wait... If there is more than one god in Westeros/Essos, which diety decides who goes to hell? They're gonna be fighting one another at who gets dibs on which character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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