BondJamesBond Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 It seems that battle commanders who use swords end up being on the losing side of battles often. Commanders should use other weapons. See the following examples:1) Robert used a hammer and beat Rhaegar (sword) at the Trident2) Jaime used a sword and lost at the Whsipering Wood 3) Jon Connington (sword) lost at the battle of the bells4) Stannis (sword) lost to Tyrion (axe) at the BlackwaterIt's clear that commanders should not use swords given the pattern of losing major battles that has developed when armies are led by swordsmen.Okay, not really. This post is a plea for more logic on the forum, the most recent offender being the OP of this post: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribupr Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Wow haha. Fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecryptile Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 That's why US officers are issued pistols now, instead of swords. The OP's logic is irrefutable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Arthur Dayne used a sword and was #1 in the realm. Ohsnap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addam of Hull Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I heartily lol'd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRON BANK Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I guess this would move down to which weapon you seemed most comfortable and effective with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kephv Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 There might be something to this: Shagga likes axes and he's still alive after facing the impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince of Ice Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I guess this would move down to which weapon you seemed most comfortable and effective with.This. Also just to add in 13-15th century European combat the most effective weapons were hammers, maces, and mauls because of the armor of the time.. However if someone was skilled with a blade they could easily out speed someone with any bashing weapon.Overall id go with a Valyrian Morning-Star. That would be ruthless.i know i am comparing the real world to ASOIAF but it is based on that time in Europe atleast far as their politics, technological advancement, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Aegon Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Overall id go with a Valyrian Morning-Star. That would be ruthless.Isent the weight part of the weapons destructive power? Wouldnt a valyrian steel morningstar be lighter, and therefore inflict less damage, than a steel one?OT:Aegon the conquerer had a sword.Barristan used a sword both during WotNPK(in his duel versus Maelys) and during the Defiance of Duskendale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I thought this was gonna be a Han type topic. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alienarea Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I thought this was gonna be a Han type topic. :)Valyrian blasters anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindchap Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Valyrian blasters anyone?I'm gonna have "Dany Shot First" t-shirts made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlefingers In The Air Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I'm gonna have "Dany Shot First" t-shirts made. you scruffy lookin' nerf herder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
binga Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 No matter what George says I don't think the show is 100 percent like real life warfare. Swords and swordsman will always be a bit overpowered because we have a romantic notion about swords, it is too connected to fantasy to separate it completely. Obviously the weapon that is best is dependent upon situation, training, and the number of men who are backing you up. There were many times in medieval warfare when a mace or spear were far more useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecryptile Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I would seriously make the argument that spears are always more useful than swords: on a long march they make handy walking sticks, stuck in the ground point first you have a pole, three spears held together with cord makes an instant tripod to hang small game, two spears longwise wrapped in a cloak or tunic are an instant stretcher.In combat, the spear can be a medium range missile weapon if thrown, or can be used in close quarter combat to provide a reach advantage over a sword, a spear can also be used as a quarterstaff if lethality isn't required.On top of that, the spear is lighter and far cheaper than the sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prince of Ice Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I would seriously make the argument that spears are always more useful than swords: on a long march they make handy walking sticks, stuck in the ground point first you have a pole, three spears held together with cord makes an instant tripod to hang small game, two spears longwise wrapped in a cloak or tunic are an instant stretcher.In combat, the spear can be a medium range missile weapon if thrown, or can be used in close quarter combat to provide a reach advantage over a sword, a spear can also be used as a quarterstaff if lethality isn't required.On top of that, the spear is lighter and far cheaper than the sword.Be careful when you say always in military matters, if you throw the spear and miss your fucked try and pick it up with a sword in your face. Also its easy to deal with a spear with a sword, wait for the moment for the spearmen to overextend and cut the spearhead right off the shaft simple as that your weapon is gone and your dead. Spearmen overextend all the time its a key weakness to their fighting strategy. Cant break of the point of sword though. Other than that in matters of practicality such as weight and extra uses your right. Id consider spears better tools not weapons. The Best swordsmen will always beat the best spearmen IMO atleast but ive been surprised before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Glokta Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Op is right, i mean who brings a sword to a dragon fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey-A-La-Mode Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I'm gonna have "Dany Shot First" t-shirts made.Davos is the most prominent smuggler in the book, that'd make him Han Solo... Who'd be Chewbacca? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morienthar Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I would seriously make the argument that spears are always more useful than swords: on a long march they make handy walking sticks, stuck in the ground point first you have a pole, three spears held together with cord makes an instant tripod to hang small game, two spears longwise wrapped in a cloak or tunic are an instant stretcher.In combat, the spear can be a medium range missile weapon if thrown, or can be used in close quarter combat to provide a reach advantage over a sword, a spear can also be used as a quarterstaff if lethality isn't required.On top of that, the spear is lighter and far cheaper than the sword.Spears are brilliant in formation but out of it they are generally vulnerable to Swordsmen if they are skilled enough to knock the head out of the way and close in or even to horsemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usrnmhsnomning Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Have we ever seen a crossbowman get cut down in the series so far? Obviously crossbows are overpowered, nerf pls grrm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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