Alayne's Shadow. Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 If Jon is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark, that said, the heir to the IT from the Targaryen claim, wouldn't his blood have "King's blood?" Wouldn't Melisandre and Stannis try to use his blood to further their own agenda?Considering that Jon does not die, or he comes back in some way, and Howland Reed reveals that he's the son of R+L, wouldn't Stannis take advantage of the bastard LC? After all, he couldn't kill Mance or his son, nor Edric Storm. Wouldn't Jon's blood have as much power as the previous in the Lord of Light's eyes? And why wouldn't Stannis and Melisandre try that?I'm not sure if that's already out there, but It seemed very possible to me while reading ADWD. I mean, he plans on sacrificing Theon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jory Cassel Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Honestly, I find the king's blood concept to be fishy, to put it mildly. What exactly does qualify as being "king's blood"? Valyrian ancestry? Subordinates proclaiming the person in question to be king? Actually sitting the throne?That does not mean that Melisandre won't try anyway, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pero the first of His name Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Meli will want his baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiola Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 My personal pet crackpot theory is that Mel will find out about Jon's parentage and then resurrect him/save him in the aftermath of the Ides of Marsh in order to either form a new shadow assassin or to have him sacrificed at a specific time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Hands Luke Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think there is no difference in king's blood to any other kind of blood for magic. It is just something Mel tells Stannis so he'll be okay with it. Varys' blood,privates, were used by a sorcerer and he has no king's blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evita mgfs Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I hope that Mel attempts to make use of Jon's blood, but that her attempts will backfire [pun intended], especially since the Targ blood is associated with "fire" and "dragons". I'd prefer Jon's resurrection or revival to be at the hands of Bran, the wizard and greenseer whose powers will surpass the limitations BR imposes on them in ADwD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Here's all of the mentions of King's blood fwiw:“A king’s blood. Only a king’s blood can wake the stone dragon.”“The Lord of Light cherishes the innocent. There is no sacrifice more precious. From his king’s blood and his untainted fire, a dragon shall be born.”"There is power in a king’s blood, she says.""She’ll still be for the fire, her and her king’s blood. There’s power in king’s blood, the red woman used to say." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assjfjgjsgjljljglgjfjsduar Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'm also leery of the idea of king's blood, given that just about everyone in any major family in Westeros has king's blood in them somewhere. We have also seen non-king's blood do some incredible things, like Mirri's blood sacrifice. On the other hand, there was loads of king's blood at Summerhall, and nothing. So that suggests to me that there's something else going on there, maybe even a mistranslation or a misreading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caesar beyond the wall Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I think there is no difference in king's blood to any other kind of blood for magic. It is just something Mel tells Stannis so he'll be okay with it. Varys' blood,privates, were used by a sorcerer and he has no king's blood.Debatable if you ascribe to the Varys = Blackfyre theory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ororo727 Jon Snow Fangirl Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Regardless of whether Jon parents are R&L, he is from a long line of Kings in the North. Also, Stannis even acknowledged that her bloody leech routine was a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 King's blood is about as real as Nicki Minaj's ass.Mel's just talkin' BS. Blood is blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadside Rose Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 If Melisandre knew that Jon had King's blood she would use him for some magic agenda of hers.As for the King's blood ritual. I think there is a quote 'Two kings to wake the dragon. The father first and then the son, so both die kings." I think Melisandre's plan was to sacrifice Mance and his son. Since Jon's father is not around, maybe he is slightly safer. Dany's husband, Khal Drogo and their son, Rhaego both died around the time she hatched her dragons. So maybe there is something important in that prophecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentree Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think king's blood is just another Melisandre's bs. Why could I not just capture some random peasant, crown him king of the spot he is standing on and enjoy power of king's blood? I think that one of messages of the story is how little the fancy lineages actually mean, and honestly, Melisandre has never been right in anything so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red Melli Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think king's blood is just another Melisandre's bs. Why could I not just capture some random peasant, crown him king of the spot he is standing on and enjoy power of king's blood? I think that one of messages of the story is how little the fancy lineages actually mean, and honestly, Melisandre has never been right in anything so far.I think that's a little too negative ... :bs: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Alysanne™ Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I cant even.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tam Stark Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I'm also leery of the idea of king's blood, given that just about everyone in any major family in Westeros has king's blood in them somewhere. We have also seen non-king's blood do some incredible things, like Mirri's blood sacrifice. On the other hand, there was loads of king's blood at Summerhall, and nothing. So that suggests to me that there's something else going on there, maybe even a mistranslation or a misreading.does the wife of a king have 'kings blood'? Jons observation of Queen Selyse; A word from melisandre and she would walk into the fire willingly, embrace it like a lover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozentree Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think that's a little too negative ... :bs:I meant no offense to Melisandre or her fans, I honestly can't think of instance where she was right in some important matter (visions like the death of the kings don't count, because they are things she saw, not her opinions). If you prove me wrong, I will stand corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yolkboy Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Mel's just talkin' BS. Blood is blood.Tell that to wargs.I don't think it's unreasonable to consider there might be power in other blood as well, that we don't yet know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceluby Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think there's more importance in his blood as a decendent of the First Men (warging) and being a decendent of old Valyria (dragons) than any kind of magic that Mel thinks is in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonnet Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 If Melisandre knew that Jon had King's blood she would use him for some magic agenda of hers.As for the King's blood ritual. I think there is a quote 'Two kings to wake the dragon. The father first and then the son, so both die kings." I think Melisandre's plan was to sacrifice Mance and his son. Since Jon's father is not around, maybe he is slightly safer. Dany's husband, Khal Drogo and their son, Rhaego both died around the time she hatched her dragons. So maybe there is something important in that prophecy.I think that Rhaego died prior to Drogo, so was never a king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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