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Locke Taking the Black


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That'd be a great choice. Locke becoming an antihero, who merely acts out of hatred for the social conditioning. Having him work against Jon doesn't make sense, since Locke's hate for nobility grows when he sees Bolton betray the King in the north and the Lannisters suceed.. thus Jaime lannister is one of the victors. The man whose hand he cut off.


Noah Taylor. after all, is a potent actor. So i'm looking forward to it happening.


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Claiming that Locke would side with Jon out of "sympathy for the low-born" seems a bit much. He's an opportunist, he'll side with whoever seems strongest.



I think people are making a bit much of his anti-nobility rant from season 3. He's not a believer in freedom and equality for all, he was just looking for an excuse to cut someone's hand off.


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Claiming that Locke would side with Jon out of "sympathy for the low-born" seems a bit much. He's an opportunist, he'll side with whoever seems strongest.

I think people are making a bit much of his anti-nobility rant from season 3. He's not a believer in freedom and equality for all, he was just looking for an excuse to cut someone's hand off.

I don't think so, if only because he brings up his resentment for nobility just about every time he's got a scene. Hating nobility, and what they represent, does not mean that he's a "believer in freedom and equality for all". And it's not as if people are only one thing.

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Being a "good guy" and being an ally with Jon or liking Jon are not the same things. There are men at the Wall who have done worse than Locke, and many of them probably vote for Jon as Lord Commander. Having Locke undergo a Jaime-like evolution to being a better man would be a great move by the writers, especially since he was the catalyst for Jaime's eventual change. Jon wouldn't mind the fact that he maimed the Kingslayer - he'd probably count it as a point in his favor. But making him be just another scumbag bad guy at the Wall would be the easy route.



Locke's an unpredictable and interesting character (the best show-only character, IMO0, and his presence at the Wall should be exciting. His allegiance could go any number of ways.



Also, sending him there was an appropriate move by Roose, and very in character.


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Claiming that Locke would side with Jon out of "sympathy for the low-born" seems a bit much. He's an opportunist, he'll side with whoever seems strongest.

I disagree. If Locke were simply an opportunist, he would have taken Jaime up on his offer to escort him safely to KL instead of chopping his hand off and making a himself a permanent enemy of the Lannisters.

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Bowen Marsh replacement?

It wouldn't work. I don't think Locke can count ;P

I really enjoyed Locke on the show, but I have a hard time believing they will make him out to be a good guy after he tried to rape Brienne. Chopping off the kingslayer's hand is one thing but raping an (arguably) innocent woman is another IMO.

As other's said, he doesn't have to be a good guy by becoming one of Jon's allies. He could be a useful villain.

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Or Roose sends him to the wall to kill Jon as the last remaining stark...

Not good. I was hoping for some dialog like this:

Jon: So, why did you end up at the Wall?

Locke: I cut a Lannister's hand

Jon: From now on, all your drinks are on me!

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¿Why exactly Locke would have to go to the Wall?
¿For cutting the hand of an enemy prisoner?
¿For generally being evil, as he is a Bolton hunter?
Lannister family may want a revenge on him, but having powerful enemies is not a reason to be sent to the Wall, nor that would defend him from Tywinn Lannister. If Roose has to separate himself from him on Lannister's request, they will not ask for the Wall but for his head, maybe discreetly but firmly.
Sent to the Wall (to show punishment and commitment on Rosse's part) and captured on the way (two steps out of Roose's door, to be on the sure side of the guest betrayal thing) could be a solution.
Locke really getting to the Wall... Who, inside the narrative world, would want that?

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Perhaps Slynt and Locke work as antagonists, and Thorne - fresh off of being rejected by the Small Council - could play that role. That would be pretty interesting, as well.

Now why would a Lannister crony team up with the man who maimed Jaime Lannister?

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Pyke's main purpose is to be a Mariner, thus he goes to Hardhome. No reason to believe that Locke, a Bolton man and a particularly idiotic one at that, would be believable leading a naval expedition.

In the show the Dreadfort is near a river hence Yara's plan to attck by ship and sail up.... also I wouldn't say he is an idiot!

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I think D&D have prove us that they can do interesting character storyline of their own with Ros.

I trust them with Locke and Noah Taylor.

:agree:

Noah Taylor is a great actor and Locke is a great adapted character. So why not expand on Locke if Taylor is willing?

Personally, I think he will be an ally to Jon. And a think there is a possibility he can be a Donal Noye replacement - Roose might take his hand before sending him to the Wall as punishment - however, he'd need to get to the Wall early on I'd think for this to work, and I would really hate for him to die so soon! I could see him alongside Jon throughout the series and I would love that.

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