Rhaenys_Targaryen Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I don't often post here, so I wouldn't notice, but why exactly do you have no sympathy? It's hardly the same as whining about not getting to hear a reading at a con in the US, as not every American would get to hear that reading either, you'd have to actually go to the con. I'm a loyal fan, who has spent a lot of money on ASOIAF and I'm yet to be presented with a reasonable reason as to why I'd be forced to import another edition of the book if I want to read the latest sample chapter (don't worry, I'm not that desperate). I know it's only 7/8 pages, I'll get over it, but I just see no good reason for not being able to read it right now. I feel the same way. I live in Europa, and I'm not about to spend a lot of money to fly to America and visit a con. I love reading about them on the forum, but it's not the same. I do have faith that the Barristan chapter will be on GRRM's website in a few months. First, the paperback edition has to really sell in the US. Then, when sales start dropping (hopefully soon because everybody will be buying the paperback now to get their hands on Barristan I), GRRM will post it on his website, same as with Theon I and Arianne II. We'll get to read it too, don't lose hope. We'll have read it before WoW comes out! :) Don't lose the faith!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan_Snow Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Great news for those that bought Dance on iBooks as all you have to do is update your book and the new chapter is in there! Guess they are not trying to bleed us out for our money quite as much as we thought. Sorry if that has already been shared Thank you! I just updated my copy and read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geogus Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I feel the same way. I live in Europa, and I'm not about to spend a lot of money to fly to America and visit a con. I love reading about them on the forum, but it's not the same. I do have faith that the Barristan chapter will be on GRRM's website in a few months. First, the paperback edition has to really sell in the US. Then, when sales start dropping (hopefully soon because everybody will be buying the paperback now to get their hands on Barristan I), GRRM will post it on his website, same as with Theon I and Arianne II. We'll get to read it too, don't lose hope. We'll have read it before WoW comes out! :) Don't lose the faith!! :) Besides that, its only illegal, according forum rules, to post links or copyrighted material in the forum. I think it does not offend the forum rules wish that someone post in the internet (not in this forum) the Barristan sample chapter, which will happen for sure in near future. Dont worry, I wont read any copyrighted material in the internet, unles I pay for it, and I m not advicing anyone to do it :cool4: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hecameburning Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Wow my posts got deleted because I said someone will eventually upload it to the internet? Really? They got deleted? Seriously what a power trip someone is on.. I did not even break any rules. It got deleted because I acknowledged the fact that people do indeed post full on chapters here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodsteel bitterraven Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I read it and I thought it was really short! It probably wasn't the whole chapter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApKing06 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Dany's burns did hurt her though. And there's a difference with having minor burns on your hands, and having been burned all over your body. He was standing in one of the dragons flames. Im with you. I only offered it up as a possibility. Actually, i was fine with the knowledge that QM was dead. Him being alive would be a curveball that i never would of thought of or seen coming. It is interesting if he is one of the three dragons. If Tyrion is the 3rd like some have suggested then all 3 are together in the same general area. Bottom line, QM being alive sounds pretty out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughthehand Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I agree Quentyn being alive is a major stretch, the one thing I kept coming back to is that QM gets hit in the face with Dragon breath and he doesn't scream until he "sees" he is on fire. When Drogon flames the slave master in the battle for the Unsullied, the first thing noted is that basically as soon as the fire touches him, his eyeballs melt and goo out of his sockets. I think a lot of people hate this theory simply because they feel there are too many Dead or Alive question marks in the series and having another one lessens them all. If QM is alive, then you have to assume he is a dragon rider. Having a dragon under control gives whichever force that dragon fights on a huge advantage in the battle for Mereen. If QM takes over the role of "tatters", now you add a dragon and the mercenary force of the Windblown. So if Quentyn is alive and becomes the main reason that Dany's forces prevail, his marriage considerations take on a vastly different perspective. Note: I am not trying to argue QM is alive, only that I keep open the possibility for the reason noted above and believe it could create some really awesome drama if he were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Billy Tipton Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 He's dead. I doubt GRRM would add another character who may or may not have dragon blood may or may not be dead. It just feels like cheap storytelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arataniello Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 I read it and I thought it was really short! It probably wasn't the whole chapter. I think it probably was. Based on the number of PoVs that we know are going to be shown during the battle of Meereen, each one is likely to be quite short as we jump from one place to another during the battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJDTrismegistus Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Does anyone know how to trigger the iBooks update? I've tried updating it in the iBooks store and deleted the book entirely and downloaded it anew. Nothing's worked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gougef Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Not working on kindle either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alhazred Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 It just feels like cheap storytelling. Don't be such a prude! There is nothing wrong with a little descriptive porn. :) Seriously though, if he ever decides he wants to class-up his fiction a tiny bit, I would be perfectly happy for him to keep the fake deaths and lose the descriptive porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Human Abstract Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 Well if cheapness is having the characters or readers think someone's dead, George has been relentlessly cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Billy Tipton Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Don't be such a prude! There is nothing wrong with a little descriptive porn. :) Seriously though, if he ever decides he wants to class-up his fiction a tiny bit, I would be perfectly happy for him to keep the fake deaths and lose the descriptive porn.Where did I make a comment on the sexual content of the books? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutch Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Just read the chapter. It further illustrated the long held belief of how big a bad ass Barristen is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alhazred Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Where did I make a comment on the sexual content of the books?You didn't. I was joking with you.You mentioned "cheap storytelling". This made me think of the regular sexually explicit "fanservice" which in my opinion stoops much lower on the scale of "cheap storytelling" than the fake deaths do. But my low opinion of this element does not imply he will not continue to engage in it. The same, I think, goes for your low opinion of the cliffhangers, twists, and fake deaths, which, IMHO, rise much much higher on the scale of artistic merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serf Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 omg. the Quentyn-still-alive theory is pretty amazing. thank you! and where can I read Tyrion II chapter? :< can't wait.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Tahu Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I must admit, although I don't believe it, I LOVE the Quentyn is alive theory. I would actually love to see more of Quentyn, he is one of my favourite PoV's from the entire series, but I do think it is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Whilst I'd never have considered the idea QM is alive until this thread, it does make narrative sense - more so than introducing a new POV character, just to follow his dull journey across half the world, and then die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Billy Tipton Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 The same, I think, goes for your low opinion of the cliffhangers, twists, and fake deaths, which, IMHO, rise much much higher on the scale of artistic merit.Once again you're putting words in my mouth. I enjoy all of those things and also don't have the problem that you do with the sexual content of the books. The show is another story. I simply said it would feel cheap if your theory of Quentyn was correct. Because it is too similar to the case of Aerys and Jon.I understand you're argumentative but c'mon man that's twice now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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