igrewupinKL Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Robin is given to Royce in 501, and according to the Facebook leak that has been proven true, Sansa will not go with Brienne. Given what we were told on how the Vale scenes end in the premiere, the Brienne/Sansa meeting happens in 502 when LF and Sansa are still together, so no, Sansa would be alone if left at Harrenhal or somewhere else if LF goes to King's Landing first. Can't do much at Winterfell? We have that blossoming relationship that needs to occur between Sansa and Theon, and you think that will only have two scenes? Alayne is not a bastard in the show (at least not yet). She is LF's niece. I know whats been leaked and whats supposed to happen i'm just saying options that would be better than Sansa being alone in Winterfell. I think taking Sansa back down to Harrenhal is a bit ridiculous. LF has expressed his intentions to never go there in the show so i doubt he would leave Sansa there. A blossoming relationship? how much freedom does ramsay's pet get? And what relationship would Sansa want with the murderer of her two younger brothers? It's only when Ramsay marries fArya when Theon gets to wonder around the castle because Ramsay has a new pet. I don't expect the marriage till after mid-season. But i guess it could happen earlier. There are only 5 established characters in winterfell. Ramsay, Myranda, Fat Walda, Roose and Reek. More than half of those characters are crazy. What could Sansa even say to them without revealing a little of her identity? Sure she could have a similar talk with Fat Walda like she did with Myranda Royce in the books. She could walk the grounds of Winterfell and bump into Theon. She goes into the Crypts and apparently takes baths. Alone. I'm not saying you're wrong for thinking Sansa might get there as early as 503, im saying i don't like it. I expect Sansa to rally the Northern lords. But this is at extreme risk to her own safety. It is just wayy to risky for her to do this on her own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Newstar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I assume he will be in King's Landing for like two episodes before reconnecting with her.I'd been assuming that as well, but Charlotte Hope in at least one of 5x09 and 5x10 and Gillenabsent from those episodes suggests that LF either doesn't get back to WF by season's end or gets back and has to leave before 5x09 without Sansa. The speculation seems to be that LF will die at WF, but Gillen would never reveal that in an interview, so it seems like he won't be at WF in those episodes, either because he doesn't return from KL or because he returns and has to leave WF before 5x09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Game of Thrones is licen$ed adaptation. Fan fiction is unlicensed adaptation. Of course it's not the same :dunno: Perfect. The reason the "hair-splitting" was brought up again was because GrrM made a clarification about the use of the term. So. Pertinent. Y'all don't use it as a metaphor anyways; you use it as a quick buzzword to dismiss certain choices without actually discussing their merits reasonably. Hopefully GrrM's clarification here means that more people will actually explain their distastes soundly instead of reactively throwing out a word that by definition is inappropriate for this kindof discussion.No, we're actually quite clear about the things we don't like. But by all means, since you asked, we can get into much greater detail about why the licen$ed adaptation is like fanfic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Perfect. No, we're actually quite clear about the things we don't like. But by all means, since you asked, we can get into much greater detail about why the licen$ed adaptation is like fanfic. A boy, did I pop back in just in time for non moderators to tell people how to post? Or, is that already over, a girl can dream. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 She is surrounded by sweetrobin, 3 Vale lords/ladies that were introduced last season and could've spent more time with Brienne and Podrick. It's a much better licen$ed adaptation if a character that has received very little character development on the show is dangled between two psychopaths. Especially since they changed the first one into Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I always liked Kevan in the novels, especially that he has the balls to tell jamie that he knows the truth about the incest.. "Aye and his father too" , makes me smile every time.I read a theory a while back that Jaime will blame Cersei for Kevans death. If I am not mistaken, Jaime considers whether or not she would ever hurt Kevan? Could be a factor that influences where Jaime ends up in season 6... I really LOVED being in Kevan's head in the epilogue, and yes, Jaime does wonder if Cersei would ever come after Kevan, I think he leaned more towards......she could. I wonder if that will come up in the showverse should it all go down soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 In this video interview for HBO Nordic Nikolaj shows a duck at the end of the video and says it's a spoiler for the book readers. I'm guessing it's just a joke but I just thought i'd share. http://nikolajfangirlteam.tumblr.com/post/114673732527/hbo-nordic-q-a-with-nikolaj-coster-waldau-thanks Rolly Duckfield GET HYPE I haven't even made it to the duck yet, and that IS kinda funny if you think about Ser Rolly, LOL but DAMN, Nik looks good. Tis All. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sati Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It's a much better licen$ed adaptation if a character that has received very little character development on the show is dangled between two psychopaths. Especially since they changed the first one into Batman.To be fair they made show's LF such a joke I'll buy her fooling him - if that is what happens - at once. Ramsay is insane so it probably clouds his thinking, so no big obstacle there. But Roose? No one is fooling Roose. A boy, did I pop back in just in time for non moderators to tell people how to post? Or, is that already over, a girl can dream. :P It's a daily occurance along with Stoneheart rumours. none of those today yet, though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newstar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I wonder if Roose will pull a "Oh, she won't be going with you"' a la Jaime/Brienne if LF tries to leave Winterfell with Sansa. My guess is that Sansa goes to Winterfell under her Alayne identity but gets outed and shit gets real very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelborn Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Lol, this. Every negative post or comment I see basically involves "fan-fiction" or "they're destroying the books". It's really gotten out of hand. I mean don't people want to be surprised in some cases and not always know what's coming. I find it more exciting that way. At this point they are two separate things, you can still enjoy both. Enjoy the TV series for what it is and if you want more in-depth details and get inside the heads of characters and see what they are really thinking, then wait for the books. Sometimes that is difficult to translate to screen. It will be interesting to see how Season 5 compares to the source material, but it's an adaptation, not a replication. You know my view is exactly that. But that applies to both show haters and "book haters" (I swear to R'hllor, I have met the latter on the interwebz). Also, wasn't it yesterday this thread was on its 168th page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sati Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I wonder if Roose will pull a "Oh, she won't be going with you"' a la Jaime/Brienne if LF tries to leave Winterfell with Sansa. My guess is that Sansa goes to Winterfell under her Alayne identity but gets outed and shit gets real very fast. That seems fairly possible with such geniuses as Sansa and LF :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 BTW folks, here's GrrM on people calling some of the writing on the show fan-fiction. http://grrm.livejournal.com/414772.html?thread=20508980#t20508980 I'm going to bookmark this and annoyingly link it in responses to anyone who says that from now on. And, regardless of George, WE still reserve the right to say..........that adaption he has licensed out.........still., at times, can look worse than some bad fan fic. All in all, it is called opinion, and I just wish people would stop trying to control others voicing such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeParking Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I know whats been leaked and whats supposed to happen i'm just saying options that would be better than Sansa being alone in Winterfell. I think taking Sansa back down to Harrenhal is a bit ridiculous. LF has expressed his intentions to never go there in the show so i doubt he would leave Sansa there. A blossoming relationship? how much freedom does ramsay's pet get? And what relationship would Sansa want with the murderer of her two younger brothers? It's only when Ramsay marries fArya when Theon gets to wonder around the castle because Ramsay has a new pet. I don't expect the marriage till after mid-season. But i guess it could happen earlier. There are only 5 established characters in winterfell. Ramsay, Myranda, Fat Walda, Roose and Reek. More than half of those characters are crazy. What could Sansa even say to them without revealing a little of her identity? Sure she could have a similar talk with Fat Walda like she did with Myranda Royce in the books. She could walk the grounds of Winterfell and bump into Theon. She goes into the Crypts and apparently takes baths. Alone. I'm not saying you're wrong for thinking Sansa might get there as early as 503, im saying i don't like it. I expect Sansa to rally the Northern lords. But this is at extreme risk to her own safety. It is just wayy to risky for her to do this on her own. I am quoting Alfie's own interview: http://www.digitaltrends.com/features/game-of-thrones-season-5-interview-reek-reveals-all/"I can tell you that there will be characters crossing paths and interacting — especially in my storyline — who have never met, or have had just minute amounts of screentime together. That relationship blossoms..." I'd been assuming that as well, but Charlotte Hope in at least one of 5x09 and 5x10 and Gillenabsent from those episodes suggests that LF either doesn't get back to WF by season's end or gets back and has to leave before 5x09 without Sansa. The speculation seems to be that LF will die at WF, but Gillen would never reveal that in an interview, so it seems like he won't be at WF in those episodes, either because he doesn't return from KL or because he returns and has to leave WF before 5x09. Do you have a link where Aidan claimed he wasn't in 509 and 510? No one seems to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 But Roose? No one is fooling Roose. It's going to be one of those laugh instead of cry things. So I have a feeling I will be rooting for Roose. He'll probably be the only one who is not horribly out of character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newstar Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 That seems fairly possible with such geniuses as Sansa and LF :PAssuming that's where they're going, I could sort of see the narrative value of combining these three storylines...1. Sansa fears discovery...amidst a bunch of Stark loyalists in the Vale.2. A minor character bonds with Theon, is at tremendous risk from Ramsay, only to be rescued by Theon, Mance and the spearwives.3. A minor character Stark loyalist plots revenge....into this:1. Sansa, a character we know and care about, fears discovery by a known psychopath and his cunning father, whom she loathes and will certainly harm her if she is found out. She bonds with Theon or has it out with him, and their scenes mine Theon's history with the Starks; the two plot their escape from Winterfell, allowing Theon to redeem himself for his sins against the Stark family. Sansa also plots revenge against the Boltons for the wrongs against her family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Fevre Dream Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 To be fair they made show's LF such a joke I'll buy her fooling him - if that is what happens - at once. Ramsay is insane so it probably clouds his thinking, so no big obstacle there. But Roose? No one is fooling Roose. It's a daily occurance along with Stoneheart rumours. none of those today yet, though :) I;ve run out of time for this round, this first stop this morning, LOL Surely, there is new Stoneheart hype for me to find on my return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sati Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I am quoting Alfie's own interview: http://www.digitaltrends.com/features/game-of-thrones-season-5-interview-reek-reveals-all/ "I can tell you that there will be characters crossing paths and interacting — especially in my storyline — who have never met, or have had just minute amounts of screentime together. That relationship blossoms..." Do you have a link where Aidan claimed he wasn't in 509 and 510? No one seems to have it. Well the only reason for Sansa to bond with that turncloak would be if she was going through something horrific herself....oh boy, I really hope she is not Ramsay's new 'plaything' (we know he gets one this season) Didn't Aidan say it to someone at London premiere? The rumor surfuced online soon after It's going to be one of those laugh instead of cry things. So I have a feeling I will be rooting for Roose. He'll probably be the only one who is not horribly out of character. I just want someone to smack Littlefinger :lol: Either Roose or Stannis doing that would be wonderful. LF desrves a horrible and humilating sendoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeParking Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Didn't Aidan say it to someone at London premiere? The rumor surfuced online soon after Yes, that is when the rumor started to come up, but I have never even seen a link to the original person who claimed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sati Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Assuming that's where they're going, I could sort of see the narrative value of combining these three storylines...1. Sansa fears discovery...amidst a bunch of Stark loyalists in the Vale.2. A minor character bonds with Theon, is at tremendous risk from Ramsay, only to be rescued by Theon, Mance and the spearwives.3. A minor character Stark loyalist plots revenge....into this:1. Sansa, a character we know and care about, fears discovery by a known psychopath and his cunning father, whom she loathes and will certainly harm her if she is found out. She bonds with Theon or has it out with him, and their scenes mine Theon's history with the Starks; the two plot their escape from Winterfell, allowing Theon to redeem himself for his sins against the Stark family. Sansa also plots revenge against the Boltons for the wrongs against her family. Yeah but thing is - how will Sansa plot anything with Boltons there? how is she gonna undermine them and get rebellion against them going? Is she just supposed to lay low until Stannis heroically (:wub:) gets there? I would, but that's me :D The way I see it is that perhaps Sansa does help Theon as a thank you for not unmasking her and then they run into Stannis like FArya and Theon in the book I;ve run out of time for this round, this first stop this morning, LOL Surely, there is new Stoneheart hype for me to find on my return? Hopefully! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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