Edited by Xray the Enforcer, 10 May 2011 - 08:23 PM.
[BOOK SPOILERS] EP104 Discussion, Take Two
Posted 10 May 2011 - 08:22 PM
Posted 10 May 2011 - 09:12 PM
I guess we just have different viewing styles. I disect and discuss pretty much every movie, TV show and book I watch/read. Even in shows/books I really, really love (like this one) there are still questions/comments/criticisms that I have and that I like to discuss with like-minded people.
For me criticising a book or show is every bit as enjoyable as reading/watching. The "de-brief" for me is very important. It is about being engaged with the text, thinking and questioning it, not just accepting what is being put in front of you. I don't think that being an audience member is a passive thing to do, it is a two way street, and personally I think we do the creators of this show a great justice by our frank and spirited critique - it show that we care and that we are paying attention.
Posted 10 May 2011 - 09:12 PM
Nothing really to add here, just thought I'd bring the new thread to life. The Enforcer with the Xray eyes seems to have scared everybody away.
Posted 10 May 2011 - 09:38 PM
The establishing shot of the tourney had a pretty large crowd in it. The closeups didn't match up quite as well as they could've, but it wasn't as bad as I'd thought on my first watch.
Oddly, I felt this episode lacked Drogo! Hehe. I wanted to see the two of them together and Dany's confidence growing at the same time.
I said this earlier, but the exposition dump was necessary, it had to come now before the plot started accelerating.
Posted 10 May 2011 - 10:22 PM
Posted 10 May 2011 - 11:48 PM
Posted 11 May 2011 - 12:09 AM
(Which I can't really say is inaccurate... Was anyone else majorly grossed out when he snuck a peek, or was that just me? Poor Aidan Gillen, he's doing a fantastic job but that has to be at least a little awkward when you're acting against someone who actually IS fourteen, unlike Holliday Granger's 23-playing-14.)
Posted 11 May 2011 - 12:33 AM
I'm glad another poster mentioned the lack of heraldry. This is one of the few laments I have of this visual adaptation. I get the primary reasons listed so far: budget probably first and foremost, and not wanting to make it too cartoony. Sure, you don't want anyone looking like a Power Ranger out there, but a sigil on a shield or cloak would be nice. I'd have LOVED to see even a 15 second montage of various "heavies" arriving to the tourney with some entourages. Much like in ep01 when Sansa is pointing out everyone who arrives at Winterfell, they could simply have LF or someone similar pointing out the various arrivals. You wouldn't even need to see him, just his voice-over while various well-known knights or clusters of knights ride up to sign in or register or whatever they have to do before it gets underway. I don't know, maybe that would only be effective for readers of the series, and seen as unecessary clutter for non-readers?
Otherwise, this show is just wowing me more and more every week. I have a friend who is purposefully not watching a single episode until the season is complete, so he can watch it all at his own pace instead of having to wait a week for the next fix. Goddam him, I wish I could've done that.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 05:08 AM
Many people said she was ugly and other said she was really good looking but she just looked average to me.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 05:46 AM
This is not an argument to say that anything you said is wrong, I just felt like mentioning a similar but still different view.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 05:47 AM
Posted 11 May 2011 - 05:54 AM
Posted 11 May 2011 - 06:40 AM
For me, I separate source material from what I am currently enjoying. They are different entities. The job of the writers and directors of the tv show's job is not to add moving pictures to the books. Their job is to make an entertaining television show which enough people will watch so they can continue to make them. If they think it's more entertaining to have Littlefinger tell Sandor's story, than that's what they should do. (for example) I expect to see serious divergences from the books at some point, and will judge those those differences on their merits as parts of the television show.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 07:21 AM
Posted 11 May 2011 - 07:34 AM
Posted 11 May 2011 - 07:48 AM
Posted 11 May 2011 - 08:41 AM
Yes, I saw it the first time (hehe) Dragon spit has long lasting powers, strong like spiderweb!
Am wondering if I'm the only person who didn't like the bathtub scene. I have no issue with sex scenes or anything like that, it's just this one was kinda meh. It felt more like an info dump than sexy or naughty, whatever.
Posted 11 May 2011 - 09:08 AM