teemo Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Is the Kindly Man??? D&D creativity or spoiler??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Carson Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Is the Kindly Man??? D&D creativity or spoiler??? Just condensing of characters since the shit with Pate in Oldtown is probably cut, since that's where Jaqen is in the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlady B Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I totally agree with Lord Carson. No spoiler, just a re accommodation of characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion's Third Wife Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I'm guessing the Pate storyline is out. I doubt it is that important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bran Snow Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Its a way to give the non-book readers a familiar face with arya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Although, we have no way of knowing if that's the same Jaqen as before. Or if its just a face that all the FM have access to, and that the Kindly Man is using so Arya has a recognizable mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetro Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The Jaqen face is probably just a face that all FM can use, even though the Pate storyline is most likely dropped this guy is probably not the same person as the previous one. At least I hope so ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envie Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I may be in the minority here, but I am really ok with this change to the story. I was jumping up and down cheering when they revealed who the old man really was - totally took me off guard since obviously that's totally different from the books. This is one spoiler no one saw coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex999 Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I may be in the minority here, but I am really ok with this change to the story. I was jumping up and down cheering when they revealed who the old man really was - totally took me off guard since obviously that's totally different from the books. This is one spoiler no one saw coming! You are definitely not in the minority Most people were happy see Jaqen's face again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Just condensing of characters since the shit with Pate in Oldtown is probably cut, since that's where Jaqen is in the books. You mean that's where we think Jaqen is. It was never quite confirmed if it's him or just some other faceless man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonInVa Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Did he have a change in height, body mass and voice when he put on Jaqen's face too? Seems a lot more magical than in the books. Even so, I'm glad he's back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Smith Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Good decision. And they re-introduced him really well: "A man is not Jaqen H'gar". Likely that Pate and Oldtown is cut, but not confirmed IMO. Disappointed with the House of Black and White introduction in general though. What was with kicking her out and then letting her back in? Lazy storytelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Seeing Jaqen's face again is full of the yes. Tom Wlaschiha gives me the dokis. Its obviously not really Jaqen, just the Kindly Man using the face. Its for the benefit of the viewers really. My mum wasnt really confused so thats a clue the introduction was solid enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envie Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Seeing Jaqen's face again is full of the yes. Tom Wlaschiha gives me the dokis. Its obviously not really Jaqen, just the Kindly Man using the face. Its for the benefit of the viewers really. My mum wasnt really confused so thats a clue the introduction was solid enough. Ah - so you think it's really the kindly man using the "Jaqen" face, and not the other way around? Color me confused. I thought they decided to drop the "Kindly Man" persona altogether and just have Jaqen take over that role to streamline things and give the non-book reader audience a familiar face they consider a BAMF from seasons past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florina Laufeyson Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Well, it seemed like that was the case...? Like he said "A man is not Jaqen H'ghar" so i think it was clear that he showed this face to Arya to gain her trust and our sympathies. Its kinda meta actually. More like 'hey audience. This isnt really that guy, but its this face so we can all be sure this guy isnt a big ol fucknut whos gonna ruin Arya's day. You can all breathe a little easier." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Envie Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Well, it seemed like that was the case...? Like he said "A man is not Jaqen H'ghar" so i think it was clear that he showed this face to Arya to gain her trust and our sympathies. Its kinda meta actually. More like 'hey audience. This isnt really that guy, but its this face so we can all be sure this guy isnt a big ol fucknut whos gonna ruin Arya's day. You can all breathe a little easier." Right - I liked the fact he clarified for her that his statement that "no one here by that name" was not a lie - because everyone there is "no one" and the names are only names, personas, faces. It's her first lesson on how they operate - but of course she has no idea and doesn't understand - yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florent Vixen Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The actor was a hit with a lot viewers and this was a way to bring him on the show. He said he wasn't Jaqen but I don't think the Pate storyline is going to happen regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florent Vixen Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The actor was a hit with a lot viewers and this was a way to bring him on the show. He said he wasn't Jaqen but I don't think the Pate storyline is going to happen regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florent Vixen Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 The actor was a hit with a lot viewers and this was a way to bring him on the show. He said he wasn't Jaqen but I don't think the Pate storyline is going to happen regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan of Westeros Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 I hope to see Jaqen in action i.e killing someone this season, he is BAMF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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