Berkilak Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Refer to title. I would very much like to see how Varys would react to this revelation, particularly if Jon proves to be trueborn and his Aegon is actually a fabrication. Might he switch over to the more-legitimate side, no longer favouring his own previous plans, years in coming to fruition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 No. His plan is in place. It's his plan, his baby(not that kind of baby) and he has molded it the way he wanted. Despite Varys saying he cares about the Kingdom and wants peace; he is still a power hungry person. There is no way, he will endorse something he can't have control over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 No. Varys doesn't care for a Targaryen restoration, he wants a Blackfyre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Dayne's Honor Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 No unless his current plan involves supporting Jon(which would be out of nowhere) then he will see Jon as a threat and try to get rid of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkilak Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 Interesting to get three different viewpoints, all in the negative. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northbound Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Interesting to get three different viewpoints, all in the negative. :PNot really, actually. I think the three of us, that posted before are all saying the same thing. I also agree with BBE, that Varys is a Blackfrye and fAgeon is one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrish Swamp Thing Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Why on earth would he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houseHB Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Varys will do what is best for Varys. If Jon gains power and Varys sees more in Jon than Aegon then yes Varys will switch unless Varys has a personal connection to Aegon if he is not real and they are somehow related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Duncan of Flea Bottom Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Varys wants a king who will bring comfort to him, Jon wouldn't do much for Varys, less if he learns Varys is not trustful and that he didn't help his ''father'' (uncle), we know Varys really tried to help, but I really doubt Jon would believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Eater Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 No. Varys doesn't care for a Targaryen restoration, he wants a Blackfyre.Exactly, if he knew thr truth about Jon's heritage from the beginning he would have told Robert to get Jon out of the way of Aegon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazy Lion Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I would very much like to see how Varys would react to this revelation, particularly if Jon proves to be trueborn and his Aegon is actually a fabrication. Varys was Master of Whispers under King Aerys. If Jon Snow was the trueborn son of Rhaegar, Varys would almost certainly already know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Varys was Master of Whispers under King Aerys. If Jon Snow was the trueborn son of Rhaegar, Varys would almost certainly already know it.Only that Rhaegar hid from Aerys, and Ned Stark doubled that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Elsa Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Might he switch over to the more-legitimate side,Joffrey is not legit but he supported him nonetheless, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AegonTargaryen Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 In the end Jon and Aegon will be on the same side anyway, kind of a moot point IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welease Woger Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 No. Varys doesn't care for a Targaryen restoration, he wants a Blackfyre.I don't buy that theory. When I reread aGoT I realised that Illyrio follows the Lord of Light, I believe that so is Varys, and they're intersted in the Targaryen restoration because they believe Rhaegar's son is the prince that was promised and/or Azor Ahai reborn. But maybe they're looking at the wrong son and they will support Jon if they ever discover that he is the one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan_Snow Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Varys was Master of Whispers under King Aerys. If Jon Snow was the trueborn son of Rhaegar, Varys would almost certainly already know it.There is one person left alive that would have known if Jon was Rhaegar's true born son: Howland Reed. I doubt Varys has any little Crannogmen birds. When you consider how small the circle of people was that knew what was going on, it's not hard to fathom Varys didn't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Blue Eyes Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I don't buy that theory. When I reread aGoT I realised that Illyrio follows the Lord of Light, I believe that so is Varys, and they're intersted in the Targaryen restoration because they believe Rhaegar's son is the prince that was promised and/or Azor Ahai reborn. But maybe they're looking at the wrong son and they will support Jon if they ever discover that he is the one.Why do you presume Illyrio to follow R'hllor? Because there was a Red Priest? That's no clue, that's just a proof that Illyrio doesn't openly works aganst them. He seems to be rather atheistic, or maybe secular, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotherMerciless Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 No unless his current plan involves supporting Jon(which would be out of nowhere) then he will see Jon as a threat and try to get rid of himMaybe he will hire a FM to kill the Commander of the Night's Watch and it turns out to be Arya :fencing: . It would be her first test, and her last. She'd never do it. Or would she? :uhoh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I dont see him ever supporting Jon. Varys is firmly in the Aegon camp and probably has a personal stake in his campaign especially if one buys into the Varys being a Blackfyre theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jô Maltese Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 IMHO, no, Varys would not support Jon.1. I think that Varys knows 'R+L=J' through a letter Ned Stark gave him to send to Jon before his execution (cf. aGoT), but Varys kept it, as he said he would if he deemed it not serving his own game - the fact that both the show and the novel spend a whole chapter /scene on their meeting in KL dungeons is my sole clue though...2. ...I also think that Varys is actually the one behind Jon's assassination: it seems to coincide with Aegon's landing in the South and Varys own revealing move of killing Kevan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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