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  1. Clegane'sPup

    Jon's Shield Hall Speech and Subsequent Plan

    No. Horn of Joramun ---- Mance;s fancy rune inscribed horn is burnt when Rattleshirt glamored as Mance is burned. Story is that Joramun's horn brings down the Wall. Yep, a horn supposedly goes toot toot --- and the massive ice wall crumbles. BTW according to posters who read Fire and Blood volume 1, the good queen Alysanne's (a Targ) dragon balked and would not fly over the Wall.
  2. Clegane'sPup

    Time for the Vale to enter the fray....

    Master of words.
  3. Clegane'sPup

    Please explain Ramsay and the Pink Letter.

    Basically what you are saying is Ramsey told one of the three maesters at WF to smear some pink wax on his raven letter because the seal matters not.
  4. Clegane'sPup

    Please explain Ramsay and the Pink Letter.

    I agree because the letter was sealed with a smear of hard pink wax. Smear. Not a seal made by a ring. As in plop some wax on a parchment and stamp your ring seal into it. A seal is a device for making an impression in wax, clay, paper, or some other medium,
  5. Clegane'sPup

    Time for the Vale to enter the fray....

    Sansa is still a semi protected virgin. She doesn't know about using the honey. Nor does Sansa comprehend that Pete is selling her. Quite possible. WF has already been put to the torch --- yet the stone structure still stands. Roose and his minions hold it. Stannis is trying to get it. How does this happen?
  6. Clegane'sPup

    How far south will the Others get?

    How far south will the Others get? My question is how the Others get past the Wall. I once suggested the Others did the polar bear crawl. Leaping from one ice berg to another. Story is the Horn of Jorman brings down the Wall. The fancy horn Mance had was burned. Theory is the cracked war horn Jon found and gave to Samwell is the the horn that brings down the Wall. So I guess that means while Sam is studying at the Citadel Sam gives a toot and boom magic happens.
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    How far south will the Others get?

    Didn't Manderly ask Able (Mance) to sing the song of the Rat Cook in DwD? For some reason the second part made me pause for consideration. I had previously been of the certainty that Stannis does return to the Wall after he clears WF of Bolton's. Now I am thinking if the snows are as deep as martin described no one is traveling no where quickly unless there are magical snow plows clearing paths. But then again maybe bear paws help. Martin does go into great detail about horses traveling in snow in a Asha chapter --- A Dance with Dragons - The King's Prize On the third day of snow, the king's host began to come apart. Whilst the southron knights and lordlings struggled, the men of the northern hills fared better. Their garrons were sure-footed beasts that ate less than palfreys, and much less than the big destriers, and the men who rode them were at home in the snow. Many of the wolves donned curious footwear. Bear-paws, they called them, queer elongated things made with bent wood and leather strips. Lashed onto the bottoms of their boots, the things somehow allowed them to walk on top of the snow without breaking through the crust and sinking down to their thighs. Some had bear-paws for their horses too, and the shaggy little garrons wore them as easily as other mounts wore iron horseshoes … but the palfreys and destriers wanted no part of them. When a few of the king's knights strapped them onto their feet nonetheless, the big southern horses balked and refused to move, or tried to shake the things off their feet. One destrier broke an ankle trying to walk in them. The northmen on their bear-paws soon began to outdistance the rest of the host. They overtook the knights in the main column, then Ser Godry Farring and his vanguard./ So, yeah, realistically no one is going no where soon if martin's snow is as deep as he described. Another 800 -1000 page book to look forward to.
  8. Clegane'sPup

    Jon's Shield Hall Speech and Subsequent Plan

    No judgement involved. Sometimes I like to rattle off information for the newbees that have stars in their eyes. On occasion I have ventured down to the Miscellaneous chatter and received a rather good smack around. I also tried to participate in couple book vs show threads over on Game of Thrones HBO but the threads turn into bashing. Hell, it ain't HBO's fault martin didn't deliver.
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    How far south will the Others get?

    I like this better than the Sam has the horn that will bring down the Wall. See the the thing is posters like to yap and argue about foreshadowing ---- the Black Gate, the tree at the bottom of a well under the Wall that only accepts the proper NW vow is located at the Night Fort. Iffin's I be membering correctly the Night Fort is where Stannis means to make his seat when he returns to the Wall.
  10. Clegane'sPup

    Time for the Vale to enter the fray....

    You and I may be in the minority with this. I don't think Jon dies. I tend to think Jon is wounded and that the betrayal changes his mindset/outlook.
  11. Clegane'sPup

    Time for the Vale to enter the fray....

    That is a good question. A question that I can not rationalize nor justify. Personally I want Sansa to take LF down. This is my take on on the Sansa dilemma --- the Vale Lords don't like LF for obvious reasons --- the Vale Lords have been trying to get Lord Robert out of LF's control. Littlefinger is gas lighting Sansa into believing that if this marriage to Harry comes to fruition the Vale will rally round her. A Feast for Crows - Alayne II Her eyes widened. "He is not Lady Waynwood's heir. He's Robert's heir. If Robert were to die . . ." Petyr arched an eyebrow. "When Robert dies. Our poor brave Sweetrobin is such a sickly boy, it is only a matter of time. When Robert dies, Harry the Heir becomes Lord Harrold, Defender of the Vale and Lord of the Eyrie. Jon Arryn's bannermen will never love me, nor our silly, shaking Robert, but they will love their Young Falcon . . . and when they come together for his wedding, and you come out with your long auburn hair, clad in a maiden's cloak of white and grey with a direwolf emblazoned on the back . . . why, every knight in the Vale will pledge his sword to win you back your birthright. So those are your gifts from me, my sweet Sansa . . . Harry, the Eyrie, and Winterfell. That's worth another kiss now, don't you think?"/ I have more that a few problems with this. Sansa Stark Lannister is a fugitive wanted for regicide. Sansa lied about Lysa's death. Sansa is supposedly LF's bastard daughter. All of a sudden the Vale Lords attending a wedding of LF's bastard daughter to Harry are going to and do what exactly? Oh, my lady, yes yes yes we will traverse the snow, the mountains, and fight the clans, fight the Lannister's, travel through the Neck and fight the northmen so you can win your birth right back. No, Before Harry can become heir doesn't Robert Arryn need to die? Why would the Vale lords give two shytes about Sansa Stark Lannister?
  12. Clegane'sPup

    Jon's Shield Hall Speech and Subsequent Plan

    None of it has nottin' tod do with the topic.
  13. Clegane'sPup

    Jon's Shield Hall Speech and Subsequent Plan

    George R.R. Martin is in hiding. He’s talking to me from a remote mountain hideaway whose location he refuses to disclose. It’s a cabin he visits when he wants to hunker down to finish a book—and he’s hard at work on “The Winds of Winter,” the long-awaited sixth installment in “A Song of Ice and Fire,” the fantasy series that spawned HBO’s hugely popular “Game of Thrones.” He has a different book coming out later this month—not yet that highly anticipated sixth volume, to many fans’ dismay. Instead, he’s going back in time... To Read the Full Story Subscribe Sign In Sorry, I didn't subscribe so I couldn't read the full story.
  14. Clegane'sPup

    Jon's Shield Hall Speech and Subsequent Plan

    Weeeeeeeel now I am totally confudicated. @DMChangs out in various forums on this site. You @kissdbyfirelike to toggle between show and book. Since I am stupid and cynical and suspicious would you be so kind as to share the origin of your quote or are you merely being factitious, trying to impress or be comical?
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    Time for the Vale to enter the fray....

    Tis difficult to say since the million dollar question is difficult to bring forward. Maybe, the Vale forces show up at WF sometime during a Dream of Spring (book seven) or maybe Baelish's food hording & trading has a part to play during winter (book six). Little Robert has no clout and no power. His keeper does. Just as 13-14 year old Sansa's keeper has influence and power over her. Besides while there is a snow storm happening in the north the Vale is preparing for a tourney. Mischief is also a foot at Storm's End. with the Ageon & Golden Company.
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