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  1. I would suggest you try to frame your remarks to the material at hand instead of casting aspersions. Out with the old and in with the new. The ASOIAF saga can no longer be discussed as a self contained story. Theories now revolve around material released in TWOIAF, the App, TKotSK and the impending F & B AND HBO's show. Hard core ASOIAF (novels, books, saga) fans can leave the site or embrace the idea martin is telling the story via extra material.
  2. Holy moley, thought I would try again -- clicked the frekking link in the opening post and walla --- picture and everything. Magic. Please dunna make me make an update of my journey. Edit: Har! Back to the subscribe or sign in. Magic. Edit: Sum body is more bored than me. Else me puter has a problem. Back to my question. Has martin ever spoken about his hidey hole before? Or did Alexandra Wolfe manage to get a scoop? George R.R. Martin is in hiding. He’s talking to me from a remote mountain hideaway whose location he refuses to disclose. It’s a cabin he visits when he wants to hunker down to finish a book—and he’s hard at work on “The Winds of Winter,” the long-awaited sixth installment in “A Song of Ice and Fire,” the fantasy series that spawned HBO’s hugely popular “Game of Thrones.” 
  3. Clegane'sPup

    The Carter Presidency And The Game Of Thrones

    I had to pluck a few nerves but someone did eventually supply the link to the topic. Sharing information is vital for communication. You have made some very interesting observations. I am now continue ing the thread.
  4. Clegane'sPup

    If Sansa had gone with Sandor

    I dunna know. I looked into the scenario and dialog in CoK Sansa VII. Basically the fire got to Sandor. He went to Sansa's room. Sandor said he was leaving and wanted the song Sansa had promised him. A Clash of Kings - Sansa VII "Why did you come here?" "You promised me a song, little bird. Have you forgotten?"/ When Sansa asked where Sandor would go he says: A Clash of Kings - Sansa VII "Where will you go?" "Away from here. Away from the fires. Go out the Iron Gate, I suppose. North somewhere, anywhere."/ Sandor didn't have a plan other than Sandor was leaving KL to go north somewhere, anywhere. Then comes part of what fans base the beauty & beast love affair on. A Clash of Kings - Sansa VII "I could keep you safe," he rasped. "They're all afraid of me. No one would hurt you again, or I'd kill them." He yanked her closer, and for a moment she thought he meant to kiss her. He was too strong to fight. She closed her eyes, wanting it to be over, but nothing happened. "Still can't bear to look, can you?" she heard him say. He gave her arm a hard wrench, pulling her around and shoving her down onto the bed. "I'll have that song. Florian and Jonquil, you said." His dagger was out, poised at her throat. "Sing, little bird. Sing for your little life." I don't know what would have happened if Sansa had gone with Sandor because that is not how martin wrote the story. Maybe Sandor would've tried to take Sansa to WF or Riverrun. I don't know. Once Sansa started complaining about the hardships of life on the road would Sandor coddle her? I don't think so. To get a look inside martin's Sandor Clegane, a person needs to read some of the SoS Arya chapters.
  5. I clicked the link @Daendrew provided. Read the header. Then ----- to read the full story subscribe or sign in. So I ventured over to Reddit and read the hype. George R.R. Martin is in hiding. He’s talking to me from a remote mountain hideaway whose location he refuses to disclose. It’s a cabin he visits when he wants to hunker down to finish a book—and he’s hard at work on “The Winds of Winter,” the long-awaited sixth installment in “A Song of Ice and Fire,” the fantasy series that spawned HBO’s hugely popular “Game of Thrones.” Has martin ever spoken of his hidey hole before? I don't know why this struck me funny bone but it did.
  6. Clegane'sPup

    If Sansa had gone with Sandor

    I be thinking ya got your Stark girls mixed up. Yep, you supplied a Sansa quote. I'm thinking what Sandor told Arya might apply. A Storm of Swords - Arya IX "Stupid blind little wolf bitch." His voice was rough and hard as an iron rasp. "Bugger Joffrey, bugger the queen, and bugger that twisted little gargoyle she calls a brother. I'm done with their city, done with their Kingsguard, done with Lannisters. What's a dog to do with lions, I ask you?" He reached for his waterskin, took a long pull. As he wiped his mouth, he offered the skin to Arya and said, "The river was the Trident, girl. The Trident, not the Blackwater. Make the map in your head, if you can. On the morrow we should reach the kingsroad. We'll make good time after that, straight up to the Twins. It's going to be me who hands you over to that mother of yours. Not the noble lightning lord or that flaming fraud of a priest, the monster." He grinned at the look on her face. "You think your outlaw friends are the only ones can smell a ransom? Dondarrion took my gold, so I took you. You're worth twice what they stole from me, I'd say. Maybe even more if I sold you back to the Lannisters like you fear, but I won't. Even a dog gets tired of being kicked. If this Young Wolf has the wits the gods gave a toad, he'll make me a lordling and beg me to enter his service. He needs me, though he may not know it yet. Maybe I'll even kill Gregor for him, he'd like that." "He'll never take you," she spat back. "Not you."
  7. Clegane'sPup

    Why marry Sansa to Tyrion in particular?

    As early as SoS chapter 4 Tywin was mentioned writing letters which is followed up with at least two more mentions of the letters. I mention this because I still question how soon Bolton and Frey threw in their lot with Lannister. Sansa is given her invitation to Highgarden in SoS chapter 6. In SoS chapter 16 Sansa is being fitted for a new gown. In that same chapter Sansa reminisces about telling Dontos she is going to Highgarden and will marry Willis. That implies some time has passed because the new gown Sansa was being fitted for ended up being her wedding gown. In SoS chapter 25 Tyrion thinks again about the letters Tywin had been writing in chapter 4. It is also revealed in chapter 25 that LF had passed on information to the Lannister's the Tyrell's were planning the marriage of Sansa to Willas. LF got the information via Dontos via Sansa. In that verra same chapter 25 LF is preparing to leave KL for the Eyrie to bring Lysa into the Lannister fold. Complications upon complications. It appears LF didn't return to KL until the wedding of Joff to Marg where LF was patiently waiting off shore. (SoS chapter 61). SoS chapter 29 Sansa and Tyrion are wed. Now in SoS chapter 37 during Roose's & Jaime's interactions it is revealed that Roose will be leaving Harenhall to attend the wedding at the Twins. Roose also reveals that Arya Stark was lost for a while but he [Roose] means to see that Arya be returned to the north. Later in the story Jaime is present at the transfer of Arya/Jeyne to Bolton and Jaime also tells Brienne the girl is not Arya Stark. Therein lays a problem. Tyrion has already wed Sansa, the eldest Stark girl who is supposedly the heir to WF. The Red Wedding took place in SoS chapter 51. I could continue to type and bore ---- BUT sadly I canna answer the question BECAUSE Twyin's wheeling and dealing stopped when he [Tywin] died. What I am going to speculate is Tywin having already tied up Sansa who Tywin believed to be the last of the Starks to Tyrion is willing to let the northmen fight among themselves and rid the realm of Stannis ---- But that wouldn't work because most likely Roose knows Sansa is wed to Tyrion. BUT then again ---- AND on and on and on --- bottom line is Roose is Warden of the North, Ramsey is married to Arya/Jeyne, Tywin is dead and Sansa & Tyrion are fugitives. PS. This time I didn't attach the quotes.
  8. Clegane'sPup

    The Carter Presidency And The Game Of Thrones

    This is one of the slippery slopes that happen in internet conversations. Freedom to discuss. Until disagreement. Your opening post said: I get it that people like to try to and enjoy trying to debate what they think an author of a book "means." If indeed it was a well know interview I would suggest that you with your quest for discussion should have included in your opening remarks a link to the interview. You darling, are correct. I am not as informed as I dunna think I am. I'll use the information @Bernie Macsupplied. GRRM: "And a lot of fantasy makes it seem simply: a good man will be a good king. Well, a good man is not always a good king. And a bad man is not always a bad king. You know, it’s much more complicated than that. It’s you know, I look at in my lifetime, I think probably the best man to serve as President in my lifetime was Jimmy Carter. As a human being, the best human being, but he was not a good President. He was not. General goodness did not automatically make flowers bloom." I am asking, sincerely, How does that apply to martin's story? Does it mean Eddard was a good man and Eddard would be a bad king? Does it mean Eddard was ill prepared for his duty of being the Hand of the King? Does it mean Robert was a good man or a bad man thereby making Robert a good king or a bad king? Since a good man is not always a good king and a bad man is not always a bad king, who is what? Boils down to interpretation of history. Was Joffrey, the boy king, a good King or bad King? Or was Joffrey a pawn? Is Stormborn a good Queen or a bad Queen? Is Dany a good ruler or a bad ruler? You wanna talk real world politics I would suggest trying the general chatter forum. ps. who was president of the usa when the russians left afganistan and the usa moved in. care to venture which year that happened.
  9. Clegane'sPup

    The Carter Presidency And The Game Of Thrones

    You Bernie are quite comical. Project much? Night.
  10. Clegane'sPup

    The Carter Presidency And The Game Of Thrones

    1. I thought it was a pretty well known interview, it has gotten to three pages with people being somewhat aware of OP's position before you acted outraged. Forgive me for being a dim wit. I do not appreciate your description of me being outraged. That is totally uncalled for. But you like it. 2. Calling a topic 'shyte' is uncivil, it is needlessly provocative for no real reason. It's almost as if you are looking for an argument. Nope, I would say you be the one looking for an argument. 3. You could have asked for links or even stated your puzzlement over the thread lasting so long without the abuse to OP. I did ask for links and you provided one sketchy as it may be. 4. In the last few years GRRM has been bombarded with the same questions again and again, his Time interview, both parts, are a welcome change to that. Okay 5. Sorry, but you are missing his point completely. Carter is an example of someone GRRM considers a good man, in most fantasy fiction Carter, by virtue of being a good man, would have made a good leader. That is not true of real life and GRRM wanted to reflect that. It is one of the major reasons his series has been so popular, it has attracted both fans of history (both fictitious and real) and fantasy. Okay you are of the opinion that martin thinks that carter is an example of a good man, Cool. A good man does not necessarily make a good leader. Cool. 6. Carter, like Ned, was a good man but being good did not make them a good President/Hand. That is, loosely, the comparison GRRM was making with Carter Hells bells man, any one who has read the saga know Eddard was ill prepared to be the Hand of the King.
  11. Clegane'sPup

    The Carter Presidency And The Game Of Thrones

    Well at least you provided a link which is more than I can say for the original poster. I still do not see what it has to do with ASOIAF. Until I flapped my trap no one bothered to supply the information that you did. As to the last line of your post ---- casting aspersions again, are ya? I copy pasted the first link you provided. I dunna know dude, seems a bit off for martin to speak like that during an interview and the Time logo seemed a bit off. Unless this ASOIAF story is about US presidents and middle east war I would say that Carter is not represented in martin's saga.
  12. Clegane'sPup

    The Carter Presidency And The Game Of Thrones

    Let us break down this BS that has nothing to do with martin's ASOIAF. 1. Our favorite author has expressed on more than one interview that he believes Jimmy Carter was truly a good man. Where is the link? 2. However, he has also said of Carter that he was not a good president. Where is the link? 3. What does the author consider a failure of the Carter presidency? If you had provided the link perhaps it may have gave the answer. 4. Was it the failed hostage rescue mission? That is a sleazy slimy statement. 5. Pls. Admins, do not delete this post. It has real politics but I believe the answer will shed some light on our author's ideas. Actually I am curious why this thread stayed as long as it did. BECAUSE your shyte questions shed no, nada, zilch, zero light on martin's ideas as it relates to ASOIAF.
  13. Clegane'sPup

    What was Ned’s purpose with Jon?

    Serious business now. I doubt Eddard gave much thought to Jon's future. If I have to do the speculation game Eddard probably thought he would be Lord of WF forever thereby keeping Jon safe. Hells bells Theon the ward/hostage was 19 at the opening of the story. The only thing I know is that Eddard said he could/would not take his bastard to KL. It is book one when Eddard shut down Cat when she questioned Eddard about Jon's mother. A major mystery for the first time reader who has not visited an ASOIAF fan site.
  14. Clegane'sPup

    What was Ned’s purpose with Jon?

    True I agree both are bastards. Useless in carrying on the name. Again I agree. Again I agree. It's kinda sad though. The fun part of the opening post was wedding Eddard's bastard to a King Bob's bastard who is in service to Arryn. Both Eddard & Robert were wards of JA. Both considered JA fatherly. The match could have produced a happy young couple who provided children to support the Lord of the Vale. And of course this is chitter chatter because Jon is supposedly the protected child of Lyanna and Rhaegar.
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