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  1. Clegane'sPup

    Ser Sandor Clegane?

    We posters have come a long way since the opening post. I've got one telling me Sandor is going to become a religious zealot and another telling me how complex Sandor is. The big man has a sense of humor: A Game of Thrones - Tyrion I "A voice from nowhere," Sandor said. He peered through his helm, looking this way and that. "Spirits of the air!" The prince laughed, as he always laughed when his bodyguard did this mummer's farce. Tyrion was used to it. "Down here."
  2. Clegane'sPup

    Ser Sandor Clegane?

    Ack, I know I am ignorant. Lack comprehension skills. Plus my inability to correctly remember situations that happen in the five books makes me foolish. If you would be so kind as to refresh my memory as to when in AffC the idea that Sandor will join the Warrior's Son's it would be helpful. Thanks.
  3. Clegane'sPup

    Ser Sandor Clegane?

    I'm not going to get into this for the very simple reason that I do not purchase nor do I subscribe to extra material concerning ASOIAF. https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Warrior's_Sons iffin the link don't work do a copy paste. For some reason Meribald knows the path to the Quiet Isle. The Elder Brother takes Brienne to the females quarters. They talk,
  4. Clegane'sPup

    Ser Sandor Clegane?

    There is no reason to think that Meribald and the Elder brother are affiliated with the Warrior Sons or the High Septon.
  5. Clegane'sPup

    Ser Sandor Clegane?

    Assuming the gravedigger is Sandor and the horse that does not want to be gelded is Stranger ---- there is in my opinion only four things that give the Sandor character likeable characteristics. Sandor cared about his horse, he tried in his limited way to help the two Stark girls and when given the opportunity Sandor did not kill his brother. None of that ^ has relevance. What in my opinion does have relevance is that if Sandor discovers that someone is wearing his helm and committing atrocities in his name Sandor might get a bit peevish and Sandor may want to correct the situation. Sandor is not a nice guy. He does his job. He is big. He kills. He is cynical. He is the dog that people fear and respect & he likes it. When he is nominated to the KG Sandor says: A Game of Thrones - Sansa V The Hound's scarred face was hard to read. He took a long moment to consider. "Why not? I have no lands nor wife to forsake, and who'd care if I did?" The burned side of his mouth twisted. "But I warn you, I'll say no knight's vows." "The Sworn Brothers of the Kingsguard have always been knights," Ser Boros said firmly. "Until now," the Hound said in his deep rasp, and Ser Boros fell silent./ My way of looking at it is Sandor is a minor character. When I first read the martin tale I was right mad that Arya didn't give the gift of mercy and left Sandor to die alone and then for some odd reason martin decided to have Sandor show up again. I might get right mad again in WoW. If martin takes Sandor off the Quiet Isle it best be to clear his name. Sandor is a crass version of fuck you and the status quo. He doesn't go outta his way looking to stir stuff up. By today's standards Sandor is a hit-man/killing machine. In story Sandor is a minor character yet Sandor tells Joffrey, Cersei and the court --- "But I warn you, I'll say no knight's vows." AND they accept it. Sandor wears the KG white cloak, and he says things like: A Clash of Kings - Sansa IV He snorted. "There are no true knights, no more than there are gods. If you can't protect yourself, die and get out of the way of those who can. Sharp steel and strong arms rule this world, don't ever believe any different." A Clash of Kings - Sansa IV "Just as if I was one of those true knights you love so well, yes. What do you think a knight is for, girl? You think it's all taking favors from ladies and looking fine in gold plate? Knights are for killing." He laid the edge of his longsword against her neck, just under her ear. Sansa could feel the sharpness of the steel. "I killed my first man at twelve. I've lost count of how many I've killed since then. High lords with old names, fat rich men dressed in velvet, knights puffed up like bladders with their honors, yes, and women and children too—they're all meat, and I'm the butcher. Let them have their lands and their gods and their gold. Let them have their sers." Sandor Clegane spat at her feet to show what he thought of that. "So long as I have this," he said, lifting the sword from her throat, "there's no man on earth I need fear."/ The above quotes describe Sandor in a nutshell. AND as Varys said: A Clash of Kings - Tyrion II Tyrion cocked his head sideways. "Did you mean to answer your damned riddle, or only to make my head ache worse?" Varys smiled. "Here, then. Power resides where men believe it resides. No more and no less."/ Of course a person would need to read the entire CoK Tyrion II exchange to get the context.
  6. Clegane'sPup

    Why did George give daenerys everything

    Unpopular thought. I am starting to lean toward that.
  7. Clegane'sPup

    Why spare Ethan Glover

    I do wish this was posted in the general forum. Why Brandon's squire was spared and why he rode with Eddard to Rhaegar's tower of joy located in Dorne where Ethan died is one of my ankle biters.
  8. Clegane'sPup

    Why did George give daenerys everything

    I just listened to the interview again. It was an interesting interview. The nzs topic was not brought up. Perhaps I need to buy one of the products that cleans the wax outta my ears. Yes, On one hand Dany is sold off by her brother to a Khal with the expectation that her brother would in return get an army. Hello, she was sold. Dress it up anyway you want to she was sold off by her brother. The character survived her ordeal. If the fossilized (?) dragon eggs did not hatch Mhysa, the mother of dragons would not have any negotiable power. Does that have an impact on the ASOIAF story? No, I think it does not. Most writers release the extra material after they tie up the loose ends and finish the story. There are two free ranging immature dragons flapping round. living in separate hidey holes. They are being fed (offerings) on a regular basis. Drogon intervened and took Dany off to the waste lands where she is shitting and puking herself. Drogon barely heeds her commands. So, when she shows up back at Meeren do you think that the two free range dragons are suddenly gonna come purring at her command? The players in ASOIAF want her dragons. Some want them dead. Some want the live. The fire breathing dragons are Daenerys' power. A Game of Thrones - Daenerys I Dany said nothing. Magister Illyrio was a dealer in spices, gemstones, dragonbone, and other, less savory things. He had friends in all of the Nine Free Cities, it was said, and even beyond, in Vaes Dothrak and the fabled lands beside the Jade Sea. It was also said that he'd never had a friend he wouldn't cheerfully sell for the right price. Dany listened to the talk in the streets, and she heard these things, but she knew better than to question her brother when he wove his webs of dream. His anger was a terrible thing when roused. Viserys called it "waking the dragon." Her brother hung the gown beside the door. "Illyrio will send the slaves to bathe you. Americans like to make slavery about Caucasian and African heritage. My take on it is, the many cultures that make up this world practice slavery in one form or another. The Barbary slave trade refers to the slave markets that were lucrative and vast on the Barbary Coast of North Africa, which included the Ottoman provinces of Algeria, Tunisia and Tripolitania and the independent sultanate of Morocco, between the 16th and middle of the 18th century. Edit: Before jumping on me, I just gave a summary taken from wiki ^ above of Slaver's Bay.
  9. Clegane'sPup

    Why did George give daenerys everything

    Thank you for taking the time to bring forth a very interesting WSJ interview. Okay. Edit: Was there talk in this interview about martin speaking or thinking he would fight the Nzs? My sons suggested that I not buy the video game. Were there Nzs in the video game?
  10. Clegane'sPup

    Why do people love Dany?

    Oye. ever noticed the similar appearance of Emilia and Rachel Khoo. Rachel is older and a mix breed. They not only have similar physical facial features but they have the same vocals. Thought I might need to clarify --- this caucasian married a Filippo.---- Philippines (Asians) were colonized by Spaniards --- mestizo is the word for mix/bi racial. Rachel has a Malaysian mix background. Not all Asians are the same.
  11. Clegane'sPup

    Why did George give daenerys everything

    No. I asked a previous poster to back up that claim with a reliable source. Didn't happen. Now you are telling me you watched an interview on Youtube. Could you or would you find the source? You got blind sided by a few internet tricksters muddling the waters. ______________________ Antisemitism existed before the nazis came to power. Antisemitism with my limited historical knowledge existed as early as1850 about the time that the US had a civil war. Which happened after the European's had killed off a good percentage of the north, south and central american native population. Nazism was not about slavery. It was about the mass extermination of people they considered to be inferior ---- people of Jewish faith, gypsies, handicapped, homosexuals. the infirm, and non-christian, etc. In martin's books there are no interment camps nor are there extermination chambers. Problem is in my opinion, individuals do not want to accept that the human condition is flawed. Religious people can say the meek will inherit the earth. Fact is peaceful people are are considered weak and ripe for the picken's. I don't like Dany's story line because of the difficult names, and the fictional cultures martin wrote. If a person does not believe slavery exists in today's world a person needs to do a bit of research.
  12. Clegane'sPup

    Who will command Dany's fleet?

    This is 2018. DwD was released in 2011. Preview chapters have been read at conventions, shown of martin's site, released and placed on the App (which I do not subscribe). Considering the age of the preview chapters I will say, if a person don't want to know stuff back out now. Keep in mind that the preview chapters were removed from prior books, meaning moving stuff from DWD. While Dany is on her hiatus stuff is happening in Meeren. I'm using the reveal tab. Enter at your discretion. I have not modified the quotes. What you see is what I copied from asearchoficeandfire.com Anyway, open discussion about this can not happen in the general forum, but those who ventured in can see the dilemma.
  13. Clegane'sPup

    Who will command Dany's fleet?

    Well, "they" in this instance refers to what I typed as exhibited below. I don't know if Saan & Waters met up at Stepstones, Just like I don't know why Davos thinks Edric Storm is at Stepstones. Just like I don't know if the Volantenes abandoned parts of the GC on the Stepstones. Saan is upset because he lost ships in the unruly weather since leaving EW and he has not been paid by Stannis. Waters on the other hand is a different ball of wax. A Dance with Dragons - Davos I A king's command and a friend's betrayal, Davos might have said. Instead he answered, "Storms." Nine-and-twenty ships had set sail from the Wall. If half of them were still afloat, Davos would be shocked. Black skies, bitter winds, and lashing rains had hounded them all the way down the coast. The galleys Oledo and Old Mother's Son had been driven onto the rocks of Skagos, the isle of unicorns and cannibals where even the Blind Bastard had feared to land; the great cog Saathos Saan had foundered off the Grey Cliffs. "Stannis will be paying for them," Salladhor Saan had fumed. "He will be paying for them with good gold, every one."<snip> Ten leagues north of Widow's Watch the seas rose again, slamming the Harvest into one of the galleys towing her and sinking both. The rest of the Lysene fleet had been scattered across the narrow sea. Some would straggle into one port or another. Others would never be seen again. What the ^ above tells me is that the seas are teeming with hurricanes/typhoons. Saan has lost some of his ships and is right disturbed. 29 ships left EW and only half remain afloat. Where does Saan's attention lie? Saan sums it up by saying: "Can Salladhor Saan eat the king's word? Can he quench his thirst with parchments and waxy seals? Can he tumble promises into a feather bed and fuck them till they squeal?" Nope, dunna think Saan is a candidate to lead Dany's flotilla. Saan is merely disgruntled with Stannis.
  14. Clegane'sPup

    Who will command Dany's fleet?

    If you don't mind to much I will flap my trap about Vic and Euron later. I have enjoyed reading the thread. Kudos. I have a difficult time imagining Theon & Asha becoming involved with Euron or Vic. Mainly because they are Stannis' prisoners/hostages in the north. I'm thinking Asha or Theon have to tell the story of what is happening in the north until Jon or Davos show up. Asha & Theon have no access to ships whether they escape, or are let loose. One of the Mormont women did a raid near Deepwood and burned some of Asha's ships. Granted I do not remember how many ships Asha commanded. Stannis sent LC Snow word about the situation. A Dance with Dragons - Jon VII And we had other help, unexpected but most welcome, from a daughter of Bear Island. Alysane Mormont, whose men name her the She-Bear, hid fighters inside a gaggle of fishing sloops and took the ironmen unawares where they lay off the strand. Greyjoy's longships are burned or taken, her crews slain or surrendered. The captains, knights, notable warriors, and others of high birth we shall ransom or make other use of, the rest I mean to hang … Anyway, that is why I have a difficult time imagining Theon & Asha being involved in future Iron Born reaverings (questionable word).
  15. Clegane'sPup

    Who will command Dany's fleet?

    - Victarion: Vic is an obvious candidate. - Asha and Theon: At present they are prisoners of Stannis. - Aurane Waters: He has absconded with the the newly built ships commissioned by Cersei. Rumor has it he has turned pirate. - Salladhor Saan: No. - Davos: No. He is busy on chase of Rickon. - Euron: No. He is busy harrying the coast of Westeros plus he is strung out on the blue lip juice. - Nobody: Somebody is gonna have to clean up the mess that martin wrote. How Dany gets to Westeros has baffled me to the extent that if martin could leave Dany on Essos I would be okay with it. As of the end of DwD Dany is mia. Barry is in charge. Vic has a charcoal arm and less than 50 ships. The Vol's have delivered the GC haphazardly to Westeros. I don't know the numbers of the GC or the Vol ships, but the Vol ships need to make their way back across the seas. The plan is to get Dothraki and horses, Unsullied, horse size dragons, and two sellsword companies & horses across the sea. Guess that means magic occurs.
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