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  1. I don't think Jon would have accepted a pardon. I also agree with those who said that it would have been more like him to offer to go to the Wall himself. We should have also seen his public confession on-screen at the Dragonpit, would have been a nice nod to Baelor. Maybe they didn't even know what to call him, a final F U for the Dornish knot that was too much for them from the start. Yeah I get that, it certainly is tragic. But in a way I think that Dany going down as the ultimate Mad Queen as well as Tyrion not even being included in the brand new Westerosi chronicle is a nice counterargument for the point Tyrion makes about stories uniting everyone. Writing history is a form of storytelling, perhaps the most powerful kind of storytelling since historians have the power to erase whole lives by excluding or discrediting them and by shaping the personality, actions and motivations of a historical figure, essentially determining if they land in the “good” or the “evil” basket. So while they can unite people, histories can certainly also divide them based on whose truth gets to be told. Yeah certainly the idea of Bronn in the Small Council seems like a reach (see what I did there?). But then again, it suddenly seems like Westeros is running low on important lords and ladies. Maybe Tyrion just wanted to set things right, as he was tasked by Bran, and one of the first things he did was make sure Bronn got his due and some more. I guess getting his title and castle must have really rubbed Bronn the right way since the last time we saw him, he really seemed like he was done serving the Lannisters. Then again, that's what lordship does to people, I guess... I do have a feeling though that with Bronn serving as Master of Coin, Tyrion will still be setting things right until he reaches that ripe age of 80 he's so fond of.
  2. This! We have every right to criticize, complain and nitpick. We all have our ideas for how things could have been done better. But we are not the ones doing this massive, costly, years-in-the-making show. When GRRM gave HBO permission for the adaptation, he acknowledged that it will be their adaptation, not his. Back then, we acknowledged it too. And we did that again after the show surpassed the books. When an expanding story hits uncharted territories, what can you expect? Of course there will be a bunch of disappointments. But there are also so many good things about this show that carried all the way to the end. And that is exactly why it's unfair and disrespectful of anyone to suggest that there should be a second attempt at finishing it. It's not just about D&D and their individual blunders, there have been hundreds or thousands of people involved in the making of this show over time and these people have overwhelmingly done a fucking outstanding job. The actors most of all So if someone like Sophie Turner goes on to say that it's rude of us to demand for better, she has every reason to do so. That's not to say people can't go on and sign some ridiculous petition. Sure, they also have a right to do that, but they should really question their motives for doing so. The ending was disappointing - so what? A petition is not going to get D&D to change anything, it's not going to bruise their egos, it's going to get some attention for a while but then it'll simply be ignored because that's how you deal with whining. People are just channeling out their frustration in the only way anyone knows how to do it these days - online. What I don't understand is why some would choose a petition, when the most fruitful way to deal with both negative and positive reactions would be in places like this forum. It's just "me, me, me" and it's really quite sad, it's petty and childish and shows how the concept of entitlement is just spreading like rot (I mean just stop and think about it for a second, we are talking about a fucking TV show, no matter how brilliant). It's exactly the kind of attitude that some readers show towards GRRM when they complain about him not writing fast enough. It's the exact same sense of entitlement. But the dust will settle eventually and life will go on, and it will definitely be good to take a break from this series for a while.
  3. For this reason it would have made all the sense in the world for the Vale to also opt for independence after Sansa declared hers.
  4. So much for breaking the wheel!
  5. Bran becoming the king like Tyrion: so let’s make Bran the king Everyone: Bran: Tyrion: you don’t really wanna be king and your man parts don’t work so you’re perfect for the job Bran: yeah well duhh that’s what I came here for obv glad you finally caught up
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    Houses dying out

    Sansa is most likely to pass on the Stark name. Lannisters are so widely spread that there will always be some Lannister second cousin from some cadet branch that survives. This much I am willing to bet on. As to Gendry, yes he was legitimized by Dany but she wasn't a recognized Queen of the Seven Kingdoms at the time. Gendry's legitimacy and the future of House Baratheon would only be valid if a Targaryen or Gendry himself ended up on the Throne by right of conquest.
  7. As a soldier and Lord Commander, he had mind for military strategy, though. But first and foremost he was a soldier and in GoT soldiers tend to have a certain mindset that usually makes them ill suited for politics at the same time. Selmy was occasionally even rather naive in his remarks, whereas Jorah had seen more of the world and would sometimes give Dany more realistic advice. For example, in season 4 soon after taking Meereen, Selmy urges her to sail to Westeros and claims that the old houses will flock for her support. Jorah notes that in reality any house or army will join whichever side has better chances of winning. Barristan would have been the missing link between Dany and her family heritage. He would have definitely been a valuable councelor in war matters and general stuff regarding Westeros and how things work there. But yeah, as stated by many people above, when the script demands that Dany and her team act like a bunch of ignorant idiots, no one can stop that.
  8. Ugh, I wish I'd never read about this. I could have just continued watching those three seconds looking for intricate psychological subtext to forcibly make some sense of it. I can still sort of see authentic and believable emotion in that scene, if I interpret it as Jon trying to stay emotionally and physically restrained on purpose to make their separation easier and to help Ghost understand that it is a real goodbye. But I don't want to make excuses for The DumbsTM.
  9. I don't subscribe to the "King-Beyond-the-Wall" part, but this would probably be the most beautiful and visually satisfying ending I can imagine right now. I could see him just sort of wanting to become free. He has lived by his duties all his life and died for them as well. I don't think it would be out of character for him at this point to say "you know what we're done fighting here, now I'm fucking tired, I just wanna go home and be left alone". He was always a Stark / a Northerner more than anything. After whatever goes down in KL, he might just want to get as far away from that place as possible, live his life in the North and hopefully go to Ghost begging for forgiveness.
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    GRRM on Successors

    I have had my fingers crossed for a successor show on the Dance from the beginning... But I never even considered Valyria to be a possibility. This would be the most fascinating topic for a prequel hands down. But I have my doubts, it might be GRRM will want Valyria to remain a mystery forever - a decision I can also respect. Leave something for the imagination.
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    [SPOILERS] Rhaegal

    This reminds me that there is a theory floating around somewhere that he will be resurrected by the Drowned God. I think the reasoning was more or less that we have recently seen a sudden activity spike in the Lord of Light and whatever magic he represents, and this would give an opportunity to another deity or form of magic to manifest their powers (before magic disappears for good). I don't buy into that theory, although I have to say I miss the Drowned God myth and how little of it eventually made it into the show. I still think getting rid of Rhaegal, however ridiculous his death, was the right thing story-wise. It will give Dany the necessary incentive to act and will of course turn her into a real underdog until another deus ex plot-twist. I'm just kind of sad that Rhaegal's last episodes were spent being a tool for demonstrating Jon's Targaryen identity (at poor Ghost's expense). //edit: minor changes
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    I agree that Arya's reaction was completely in line with her character. That's not to say that they're completely incompatible, it's just that the only way for them to work would be if Arya somehow got to set the rules. But I get the impression that in any situation Arya would feel trapped inside a castle. She seems restless even in WF, always being absent from gatherings and lurking around and then finally setting off to pursue her agenda. I think Gendry understood Arya once but she is still largely affected by her crazy journeys and has yet to reestablish some of her humane aspects. Besides, she still has a mission to fulfill. I think it would be totally fair to explain the proposal with him simply being in love with Arya and still euphoric about the fact that he wasn't, after all, eaten by ice zombies, as well as having just been legitimized and named the lord of a major house.
  13. The Dual Principle of Reverse Logic: 1) Whenever relevant to the plot, ordinary characters have a sudden off-screen revelation of important information. 2) Whenever relevant to the plot, a 3ER may withhold any potentially crucial information without presenting valid reasons, as he sees fit.
  14. I think by now they must be feeling so uncomfortable with their own show that they want us to get the authentic experience. (See also: no lighting budget in a night-time battle episode) Yeah for some reason it feels like they don't want us to forget. Maybe they're thinking that just in case Sansa appears too Perfect, we will remind the audience of all the horrible things that were done to her and all the stupid things that she did seasons ago (despite being a child and war prisoner).
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    Starkbucks Cup?

    This is foreshadowing. Starbucks will end up invading Westeros and introduce modern capitalism. Bad news for Varys the Marxist and his years-in-the-making Red Sparrows' Rebellion.