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  1. DominusNovus

    Is there romantic love between Ned and Catelyn?

    There's some truth in here, though the overall gist is a bit over the top. There is a valid place for romantic love in a relationship, but that type of love is elevated - at the expense of other types - to an improper degree in our culture. It doesn't help that, in English, we use one word for multiple related concepts. Of course, in the Greek, there's much more nuance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_words_for_love
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    Is there romantic love between Ned and Catelyn?

    No problem. I will add a little nuance by clarifying that love for your children isn’t a replacement for love for your spouse, they should work in concert.
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    Is there romantic love between Ned and Catelyn?

    No, its not. To pay more attention to your spouse - or expect your spouse to pay more attention to you - than you pay to your child is horrible parenting. Your spouse is a grown adult, they don’t need a tenth the attention that a child does. Children are called dependents for a reason. I could go on, but this point shouldn’t need to be made. As to the basic point, different couples love each other differently. Some are more affectionate, some are less. Some verbalize their love, some do it through actions. And so on, and so forth. For example, I have a pet name for my wife. The pet name is ‘wife,’ because I have an offbeat sense of humor. Every couple is unique. I’m sure if a random stranger heard me call her ‘wife’ they would think I’m oddly cold. Meanwhile, we have insight into their characters’ inner thoughts, and both Ned and Cat think they love each other, so I say its fair to assume they know better than we do.
  4. It hardly shows a man who is interested in controlling his wife.
  5. He couldn’t be bothered to keep Cersei from screwing her brother?
  6. I meant to ask for the specific quote, but I found it. Anyway, I still don’t find the quote quite as definitive as it could be. Is Ned thinking of teenaged Robert? Or is he thinking of King Robert? Or both?
  7. Do we know that he'd swear his undying love for some woman and then forget her?
  8. I really don’t know how well that analogy works, but I’m picturing Cersei as a car that doesn’t let you drive her, and occasionally tries to run you over. And I chuckle.
  9. How many pages of characterization do we have for Lyanna, in the entire series?
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    The Night’s Watch and the Gift(s) don’t make sense

    I think we’re talking at cross purposes here, then.
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    The Night’s Watch and the Gift(s) don’t make sense

    More or less, but largely from the perspective that the Gift should be better populated (though I do think Westeros has a high enough population that the Watch should be far higher, even if its just a glorified penal colony, but thats not my argument here). Ultimately, it boils down to feudal obligations: those imposed on the inhabitants of the gift are preferable to those imposed by their neighbors in the North, and they’re sworn to neutrality theough the wars of the realm. Therefore, the population should be higher. We get hints that the North has seen better days in general (note that parts of Winterfell are abandoned), but not that its on particularly hard times, prior to the Wot5K. Meanwhile, we get indications that the Gift is all but abandoned, with empty strongholds (the last places to be abandoned, logically). To me, it should be the reverse. Additional thought: Hell, every time a war starts, the contrast should be even more people running to the Gift. Imagine your a small freeholding farmer in the North, and your local lord comes by to tell you that his lord has called his banners because his lord has called his banners because the Targaryens are fighting somebody. The men of fighting age in your area are expected to head south for a year or more, especially those with skill at arms. This war is not a secret, and you know that the Wildlings will find out and pick up their raids long before the survivors get back. During wartime, its the imhabitant south of the Gift that should be more vulnerable to raids - their neighbors living under the rule of the Watch don’t have to send men south to fight.
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    The Night’s Watch and the Gift(s) don’t make sense

    That is a possibility, but it doesn’t make much sense. It seems like a lot of work and it does seem to contradict the implications of places like Moletown and Queenscrown, where there is clearly a population that is not part of the Watch. Plus, just think of how difficult it would be to enforce the vows of Stewards living that far away from the Wall.
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    The Night’s Watch and the Gift(s) don’t make sense

    Absolutely a valid point, that it is not likely to be the Lords directly sworn to House Stark that would be running around trying to stop the raiders, but the local landed masterly/knightly houses. However, I'm not sure that the Watch doesn't have the same, in theory. We know that there are strongholds in the Gift, surely someone must have holding them. Thats what the clincher is for me: Say you're a skilled warrior, and you can get some land in the North. Your options are to be sworn to a Northern Lord, who will expect tax and military service from you, on top of having to defend your lands from Wildlings, or to be sworn to the Night's Watch, who will expect tax and no military service from you, but you'll still have to defend against Wildlings. Maybe the Watch demands such higher tribute than a traditional lord? But that doesn't make sense, since there's so few of them - it would seem to be a self regulating problem, if its a question of duties: the lower the numbers of the Night's Watch, the less that they'll demand in tribute of those that live in the Gift, and the more attractive it is to live there. Conversely, even if they don't demand less, then the Watch is sitting on an excess of tribute, that they can sell, and make the Watch richer, which improves its situation. Now, perhaps the Night's Watch didn't like the idea of landed warriors living on the Gift for whatever reason. That may have been the case prior to the Targ era, but surely New Gift was settled no differently than the rest of the North, so the Watch would have just ended up with masterly houses sworn to them, maybe even some petty lords. Unless we assume that, upon being given the New Gift, the Watch kicked out every masterly and noble house in the Gift. That seems counter productive, at minimum, to me. I think it would make more sense if they just kept the status quo. "You use to be sworn to House Umber, now you're sworn to the Night's Watch." Not to mention that the landed nobility and masterly houses are both the military and bureaucracy of a feudal society; get rid of them, and who is going to collect the tribute? Its just a knot that, the more I pull at it, the more it just doesn't quite add up.
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    The Night’s Watch and the Gift(s) don’t make sense

    Because you’re picking at the examples, rather than the actual position. Thats rabbit hole territory, which gets us sucked down into debating how bad a winter has to be for the Trident to freeze over.
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